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yardwork

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22. Islamic people developed most of what we think of as modern advances.
Sun May 17, 2026, 11:59 AM
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Islamic cultures made revolutionary advances in science, medicine, art, architecture and many of the other advances that led to a great expansion of human rights and enjoyment over the past thousand years.

Islamic people developed a numeric system without which there would have been no scientific revolution, no Industrial Revolution, certainly no computer age. Imagine a world without a numeric marker for zero. Truly the dark ages.

Modern medicine... simply would not exist without Islamic influences. And so much more.

It's sad that so few people know the history of.... everything, really. Too many Americans hear "Muslim" and they think of 9/11, the Iranian hostages, the atrocities of fundamentalist right wing Islamic dictatorships - or they view Muslims as desperately poor women in hijabs mourning their babies. None of that is close to an accurate representation of the whole of Islamic culture and history.

We would all be a lot better off if we learned about and followed the basic principles of revolutionary religions. In the case of Christianity that would mean following Jesus's directives to feed the poor, love our enemies as ourselves, turn the other cheek, and generally live a life of poverty and service. I know far less about the other religions in the world but as far as I can tell they all say about the same thing. It's sad that human vices and failings corrupt us.

"Til human voices wake us, and we drown."
-- T.S. Eliot

(By the way, Eliot wrote some very antisemitic things in his poetry, but I don't reject his art because of that. We are all very imperfect beings.)

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Lucky enough to meet a couple of multigraincracker 20 hrs ago #1
Ditto malaise 20 hrs ago #2
The propaganda portrays Israel is "the good guys" and Muslims as "the bad guys" Orrex 20 hrs ago #3
Yes Israel has controlled the narrative here and elsewhere for a long time FakeNoose 19 hrs ago #8
Do you know any Jewish people? yardwork 18 hrs ago #11
Yes we have many Jewish groups in Pittsburgh and I have several friends and neighbors of the Jewish faith FakeNoose 15 hrs ago #36
So you are accusing your Jewish friends and neighbors of the following? yardwork 14 hrs ago #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Biophilic 14 hrs ago #47
Where are you seeing that? yardwork 18 hrs ago #9
Just out of curiosity... Orrex 16 hrs ago #21
Good question. I rarely use the AI results, but here goes... yardwork 16 hrs ago #23
We need to be careful not to conflate Jews as a people with the state of Israel Orrex 15 hrs ago #29
I was responding to your post above. yardwork 15 hrs ago #31
Ah yes--you did respond. My bad. Orrex 15 hrs ago #35
You have not. yardwork 15 hrs ago #37
I'm sorry that you don't care to engage with the subject seriously Orrex 15 hrs ago #38
Orrex doesn't act in good faith - it has nothing to do with the issue at hand jfz9580m 3 hrs ago #61
Thank you and an excellent response. Biophilic 15 hrs ago #39
Orrex- Go fuck yourself sideways you misogynistic shit stirring twat jfz9580m 3 hrs ago #60
Muslims: Bad press since The Crusades no_hypocrisy 20 hrs ago #4
Well, those and that little "conversion by the sword" thing. ColoringFool 19 hrs ago #5
What gets overlooked Old Crank 19 hrs ago #6
The Christian Crusaders butchered both Jews and Muslims. yardwork 18 hrs ago #12
And a lot of other Christians Old Crank 8 hrs ago #58
THIS!!!!!!! eom BlueMTexpat 18 hrs ago #13
"Conversion by the sword" is a misconception/trope used against Muslims since the Middle Ages. AloeVera 18 hrs ago #16
Islamic people developed most of what we think of as modern advances. yardwork 16 hrs ago #22
I believe there is still a tremendous amount of guilt about what happened in WWII. Biophilic 19 hrs ago #7
it didnt start w ww2. mopinko 17 hrs ago #19
What didn't start with WWII? Biophilic 16 hrs ago #24
attacks on jews. mopinko 15 hrs ago #28
It's interesting, isn't it. yardwork 15 hrs ago #32
yup. mopinko 15 hrs ago #33
Oh, good grief, no. Like a couple of millennium. Biophilic 13 hrs ago #49
it mystifies me, too. mopinko 11 hrs ago #52
All I can do is agree with you. It's honestly a mystery. And Christianity never looks good. Biophilic 11 hrs ago #53
Most of what you've written here is inaccurate. yardwork 16 hrs ago #25
As I stated in my post these are the myths I grew up with. Myths! Not truths. Biophilic 15 hrs ago #43
So you don't agree with what you wrote above? yardwork 14 hrs ago #45
Many decades of conditioning, propaganda and manipulation have brought us here. OGBuzz 18 hrs ago #10
You can say that again. yardwork 18 hrs ago #14
You're saying it becase you imagine that it serves your agenda. Orrex 15 hrs ago #41
Seems like every country needs to have a focal point to hate BeneteauBum 18 hrs ago #15
Israel has plenty of reason to fear their neighbors. yardwork 17 hrs ago #17
Basically I agree with you BeneteauBum 15 hrs ago #40
I agree with this post. yardwork 14 hrs ago #46
For them, the end justifies the means. AloeVera 17 hrs ago #18
Are you quoting Hamas? yardwork 17 hrs ago #20
You can't just "disagree" with a genocide. AloeVera 15 hrs ago #42
I think that you and I have different personalities. yardwork 14 hrs ago #48
Don't be too sure of that! AloeVera 12 hrs ago #51
Not everyone BlueWaveNeverEnd 16 hrs ago #26
Its also American terrorism SSJVegeta 16 hrs ago #27
Bigotry, willful ignorance, cognitive dissonance, disingenuousness, motivated reasoning, etc. RockRaven 15 hrs ago #30
"Israel has plenty of reason to fear their neighbors." J_William_Ryan 15 hrs ago #34
What do you think would be an appropriate way TBF 12 hrs ago #50
Before the massacre, thousands of Palestinians were being held w/o charges, questionseverything 11 hrs ago #54
Nice evasion but I'm curious - who started the fire? TBF 10 hrs ago #55
so u believe everything u read in the nyt now? mopinko 10 hrs ago #56
There are pictures, there's victim testimony, there's ashamed Isreal guards testimony questionseverything 9 hrs ago #57
Nothing will be enough. AloeVera 7 hrs ago #59
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