Israel/Palestine

AloeVera

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18. For them, the end justifies the means.

Sun May 17, 2026, 11:06 AM

15 hrs ago

Even if the means are barbaric - even genocidal - and the ends are not what they have been propagandized to believe. We see it right here, sadly, though in diminishing numbers except for the true believers who are willing to ignore the inhumanity of the means.

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I don't understand why people are just blind to Israeli terrorism and instead focus on just Muslim terrorism. [View all] Eko 18 hrs ago OP

Lucky enough to meet a couple of multigraincracker 18 hrs ago #1

Ditto malaise 18 hrs ago #2

The propaganda portrays Israel is "the good guys" and Muslims as "the bad guys" Orrex 18 hrs ago #3

Yes Israel has controlled the narrative here and elsewhere for a long time FakeNoose 17 hrs ago #8

Do you know any Jewish people? yardwork 16 hrs ago #11

Yes we have many Jewish groups in Pittsburgh and I have several friends and neighbors of the Jewish faith FakeNoose 13 hrs ago #36

So you are accusing your Jewish friends and neighbors of the following? yardwork 12 hrs ago #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Biophilic 12 hrs ago #47

Where are you seeing that? yardwork 16 hrs ago #9

Just out of curiosity... Orrex 14 hrs ago #21

Good question. I rarely use the AI results, but here goes... yardwork 14 hrs ago #23

We need to be careful not to conflate Jews as a people with the state of Israel Orrex 13 hrs ago #29

I was responding to your post above. yardwork 13 hrs ago #31

Ah yes--you did respond. My bad. Orrex 13 hrs ago #35

You have not. yardwork 13 hrs ago #37

I'm sorry that you don't care to engage with the subject seriously Orrex 13 hrs ago #38

Orrex doesn't act in good faith - it has nothing to do with the issue at hand jfz9580m 1 hr ago #61

Thank you and an excellent response. Biophilic 13 hrs ago #39

Orrex- Go fuck yourself sideways you misogynistic shit stirring twat jfz9580m 1 hr ago #60

Muslims: Bad press since The Crusades no_hypocrisy 18 hrs ago #4

Well, those and that little "conversion by the sword" thing. ColoringFool 17 hrs ago #5

What gets overlooked Old Crank 17 hrs ago #6

The Christian Crusaders butchered both Jews and Muslims. yardwork 16 hrs ago #12

And a lot of other Christians Old Crank 6 hrs ago #58

THIS!!!!!!! eom BlueMTexpat 16 hrs ago #13

"Conversion by the sword" is a misconception/trope used against Muslims since the Middle Ages. AloeVera 16 hrs ago #16

Islamic people developed most of what we think of as modern advances. yardwork 14 hrs ago #22

I believe there is still a tremendous amount of guilt about what happened in WWII. Biophilic 17 hrs ago #7

it didnt start w ww2. mopinko 15 hrs ago #19

What didn't start with WWII? Biophilic 14 hrs ago #24

attacks on jews. mopinko 13 hrs ago #28

It's interesting, isn't it. yardwork 13 hrs ago #32

yup. mopinko 13 hrs ago #33

Oh, good grief, no. Like a couple of millennium. Biophilic 11 hrs ago #49

it mystifies me, too. mopinko 9 hrs ago #52

All I can do is agree with you. It's honestly a mystery. And Christianity never looks good. Biophilic 9 hrs ago #53

Most of what you've written here is inaccurate. yardwork 14 hrs ago #25

As I stated in my post these are the myths I grew up with. Myths! Not truths. Biophilic 13 hrs ago #43

So you don't agree with what you wrote above? yardwork 12 hrs ago #45

Many decades of conditioning, propaganda and manipulation have brought us here. OGBuzz 16 hrs ago #10

You can say that again. yardwork 16 hrs ago #14

You're saying it becase you imagine that it serves your agenda. Orrex 13 hrs ago #41

Seems like every country needs to have a focal point to hate BeneteauBum 16 hrs ago #15

Israel has plenty of reason to fear their neighbors. yardwork 15 hrs ago #17

Basically I agree with you BeneteauBum 13 hrs ago #40

I agree with this post. yardwork 12 hrs ago #46

For them, the end justifies the means. AloeVera 15 hrs ago #18

Are you quoting Hamas? yardwork 15 hrs ago #20

You can't just "disagree" with a genocide. AloeVera 13 hrs ago #42

I think that you and I have different personalities. yardwork 12 hrs ago #48

Don't be too sure of that! AloeVera 10 hrs ago #51

Not everyone BlueWaveNeverEnd 14 hrs ago #26

Its also American terrorism SSJVegeta 13 hrs ago #27

Bigotry, willful ignorance, cognitive dissonance, disingenuousness, motivated reasoning, etc. RockRaven 13 hrs ago #30

"Israel has plenty of reason to fear their neighbors." J_William_Ryan 13 hrs ago #34

What do you think would be an appropriate way TBF 10 hrs ago #50

Before the massacre, thousands of Palestinians were being held w/o charges, questionseverything 9 hrs ago #54

Nice evasion but I'm curious - who started the fire? TBF 8 hrs ago #55

so u believe everything u read in the nyt now? mopinko 8 hrs ago #56

There are pictures, there's victim testimony, there's ashamed Isreal guards testimony questionseverything 7 hrs ago #57

Nothing will be enough. AloeVera 5 hrs ago #59