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Martin Eden

(15,266 posts)
24. History has certainly judged it to be so
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 02:40 PM
11 hrs ago

I assume your speculative scenario reasons that a stronger unified message from Britain and France in Sep 1938 would have prompted Hitler to invade the West first, before the allies had time to build up their military capabilities. Of course, Germany would first have to conquer France, which would have become the base. Any amphibious effort to take over England was highly dubious, whether in 1939 or as events unfolded. The Royal Air Force was no slouch, and England's navy was by far the mightiest in Europe.

Alternative history (if this or that happened differently) can be interesting speculation, but I doubt a stronger message from Chamberlain (instead of appeasement) would have altered Germany's strategic need to secure its Eastern front first with a relatively easy victory in Poland. It was good training for their new blitzkreig warfare. Without the Non-aggression pact with Russia, no telling what Stalin would have done. He was a blood enemy, and every bit as murderous a dictator as Hitler.

In any event, Neville Chamberlain earned his infamous place in history.

As will Trump, when his fascist regime is on the ash heap.

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So he just called him a spineless weasel wolfie001 18 hrs ago #1
And PPP* will no doubt take it as a compliment. ... littlemissmartypants 17 hrs ago #5
pResident Pee Pee? wolfie001 16 hrs ago #13
True that ... he spoke truth NotHardly 15 hrs ago #16
Chamberlane tried to delay the inevitable. BradBo 17 hrs ago #2
"He delayed Hitler just long enough so Britian could arm" speak easy 17 hrs ago #3
radar alone was worth waiting dsc 17 hrs ago #10
You are assuming there would not have been a ground war in Europe. speak easy 16 hrs ago #12
I was meaning from the UK's perspective dsc 16 hrs ago #14
I was assuming that Britain would have preferred a ground war in Europe in 1938 speak easy 9 hrs ago #34
..perhaps what Putin has on Krasnov.. thomski64 17 hrs ago #4
He really delayed nothing. But to your point, at least he wasn't a foreign operative like Krasnov. paleotn 17 hrs ago #7
Hitler's blitzkreig into Poland then into western Europe was almost certainly inevitable Martin Eden 15 hrs ago #18
'sent to Hitler a message of weakness, not strength.' Was that actually a bad thing in the end though really? cstanleytech 13 hrs ago #21
History has certainly judged it to be so Martin Eden 11 hrs ago #24
I heard Chamberlain was worse than that PATRICK 9 hrs ago #31
Well I was thinking more of a blitzkrieg type invasion of England bypassing France for now. cstanleytech 8 hrs ago #35
Blitzkreig depends on air and ground forces. You're aware that Great Britain is an island, right? Martin Eden 8 hrs ago #36
Ahhh, okay thanks for explaining ☺️ cstanleytech 6 hrs ago #37
In his deranged mind, he would take it as a compliment. The Madcap 17 hrs ago #6
Oh my, had not thought of that. niyad 17 hrs ago #9
bacon is a little late to the party. people have been calling krasnov niyad 17 hrs ago #8
Actually, much worse than Chamberlain PATRICK 9 hrs ago #32
Call it what it is in the Russian dictated ""White House peace plan" a surrender document that rewards Putin. Botany 16 hrs ago #11
Why? Playingmantis 16 hrs ago #15
Trump is more like Mussolini Martin Eden 15 hrs ago #17
Maybe he'll rename the U.S Tomainia? Dave Bowman 10 hrs ago #28
Mini-Mussolini thought crime 1 hr ago #38
An apt reference for Donald Trump. ProudMNDemocrat 15 hrs ago #19
Trump is far worse than Chamberlain. Whereas the name "Chamberlain" is synonymous with appeasement, Trump Martin68 14 hrs ago #20
Bacon criticizes Piggy. nt SeattleVet 11 hrs ago #22
NOW he gets his brass balls! On his way out. Grins 11 hrs ago #23
Why is my Magic 8 Ball running with Quisling? Brother Buzz 10 hrs ago #25
If so... in a Mussolini bodysuit and a Hitler complex. ananda 10 hrs ago #26
Far worse than Chamberlain. yorkster 10 hrs ago #27
much worse than chambrtlain, who did not actually join the axis rampartd 10 hrs ago #29
There is a huge fallacy with this comparison. Bluetus 10 hrs ago #30
Agree PATRICK 9 hrs ago #33
He appeases like Chamberlain but thinks like Charles Lindbergh thought crime 1 hr ago #39
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