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BumRushDaShow

(164,697 posts)
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 07:20 AM 11 hrs ago

Bacon calls Trump 'the new Chamberlain' over Russia policy

Source: Roll Call

Posted December 12, 2025 at 8:53pm


Rep. Don Bacon, a senior member of House Armed Services Committee who does not plan to run for reelection next year, has long taken exception to Donald Trump’s approach to Russia — but the Nebraska Republican has escalated his criticism following the administration’s release of a new policy document.

The 2025 National Security Strategy that the White House made public Dec. 5, raised eyebrows in Washington for mentioning Russia only in passing while criticizing European allies. The strategy reflects Trump’s apparent predilection for Russia and his cordial relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“They’re saying he’s the new Reagan. He’s the new Chamberlain,” Bacon said of Trump, an apparent reference to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s description of Trump in a Dec. 6 speech as “the true and rightful heir of Ronald Reagan.” In referencing Neville Chamberlain, Bacon was taking issue with an the administration’s suggestion that Ukraine trade territory for peace in order to end Russia’s invasion.

Chamberlain was the British prime minister who signed a deal in late 1938 to give part of what was then Czechoslovakia to Adolph Hitler, only to see Hitler respond by invading the country several months later, gain control of Czech border fortifications and trigger World War II.

Read more: https://rollcall.com/2025/12/12/bacon-calls-trump-the-new-chamberlain-over-russia-policy/

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Bacon calls Trump 'the new Chamberlain' over Russia policy (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 11 hrs ago OP
So he just called him a spineless weasel wolfie001 10 hrs ago #1
And PPP* will no doubt take it as a compliment. ... littlemissmartypants 10 hrs ago #5
pResident Pee Pee? wolfie001 9 hrs ago #13
True that ... he spoke truth NotHardly 8 hrs ago #16
Chamberlane tried to delay the inevitable. BradBo 10 hrs ago #2
"He delayed Hitler just long enough so Britian could arm" speak easy 10 hrs ago #3
radar alone was worth waiting dsc 9 hrs ago #10
You are assuming there would not have been a ground war in Europe. speak easy 9 hrs ago #12
I was meaning from the UK's perspective dsc 9 hrs ago #14
I was assuming that Britain would have preferred a ground war in Europe in 1938 speak easy 1 hr ago #34
..perhaps what Putin has on Krasnov.. thomski64 10 hrs ago #4
He really delayed nothing. But to your point, at least he wasn't a foreign operative like Krasnov. paleotn 9 hrs ago #7
Hitler's blitzkreig into Poland then into western Europe was almost certainly inevitable Martin Eden 7 hrs ago #18
'sent to Hitler a message of weakness, not strength.' Was that actually a bad thing in the end though really? cstanleytech 5 hrs ago #21
History has certainly judged it to be so Martin Eden 3 hrs ago #24
I heard Chamberlain was worse than that PATRICK 2 hrs ago #31
Well I was thinking more of a blitzkrieg type invasion of England bypassing France for now. cstanleytech 1 hr ago #35
Blitzkreig depends on air and ground forces. You're aware that Great Britain is an island, right? Martin Eden 43 min ago #36
In his deranged mind, he would take it as a compliment. The Madcap 9 hrs ago #6
Oh my, had not thought of that. niyad 9 hrs ago #9
bacon is a little late to the party. people have been calling krasnov niyad 9 hrs ago #8
Actually, much worse than Chamberlain PATRICK 2 hrs ago #32
Call it what it is in the Russian dictated ""White House peace plan" a surrender document that rewards Putin. Botany 9 hrs ago #11
Why? Playingmantis 8 hrs ago #15
Trump is more like Mussolini Martin Eden 8 hrs ago #17
Maybe he'll rename the U.S Tomainia? Dave Bowman 3 hrs ago #28
An apt reference for Donald Trump. ProudMNDemocrat 7 hrs ago #19
Trump is far worse than Chamberlain. Whereas the name "Chamberlain" is synonymous with appeasement, Trump Martin68 6 hrs ago #20
Bacon criticizes Piggy. nt SeattleVet 4 hrs ago #22
NOW he gets his brass balls! On his way out. Grins 3 hrs ago #23
Why is my Magic 8 Ball running with Quisling? Brother Buzz 3 hrs ago #25
If so... in a Mussolini bodysuit and a Hitler complex. ananda 3 hrs ago #26
Far worse than Chamberlain. yorkster 3 hrs ago #27
much worse than chambrtlain, who did not actually join the axis rampartd 3 hrs ago #29
There is a huge fallacy with this comparison. Bluetus 2 hrs ago #30
Agree PATRICK 2 hrs ago #33

littlemissmartypants

(31,209 posts)
5. And PPP* will no doubt take it as a compliment. ...
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 08:22 AM
10 hrs ago

That's precisely how the severely disturbed mind of the psychopath works.

Characteristics of Psychopaths

1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior


*PPP (President Psychopath Pedophile)

BradBo

(877 posts)
2. Chamberlane tried to delay the inevitable.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 08:03 AM
10 hrs ago

I think Neville Chamberlain knew the British would eventually be in the war. He delayed Hitler just long enough so Britian could arm themselves better.
Trumps just a traitor and Putin has something on him and is using him as a puppet.

speak easy

(12,575 posts)
3. "He delayed Hitler just long enough so Britian could arm"
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 08:14 AM
10 hrs ago

Hitler was rearming faster than Britain and France put together. It was a fatal mistake and an act of military and political cowardice.

Read the historical sources. The German generals were plotting a military coup if Hitler was going to order a war with Czechoslovakia.

speak easy

(12,575 posts)
12. You are assuming there would not have been a ground war in Europe.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 09:15 AM
9 hrs ago

The Whermacht were not able to launch a campaign against France until 1940.

speak easy

(12,575 posts)
34. I was assuming that Britain would have preferred a ground war in Europe in 1938
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 04:46 PM
1 hr ago

rather than having London bombed to bits in the Blitz.

paleotn

(21,345 posts)
7. He really delayed nothing. But to your point, at least he wasn't a foreign operative like Krasnov.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 08:56 AM
9 hrs ago

Chamberlain saw the horror of WW1 and did what he felt was right to avoid a repeat. Unfortunately for Europe he was short sighted and disconnected from reality. But he wasn't the only one. Just the most infamous.

On Trump, absolutely. But it might not just be the kompromat. I think Trump wants and needs to be an Amurkin Putin. He'd still do it if the Russians didn't have a damn thing on him.

Martin Eden

(15,266 posts)
18. Hitler's blitzkreig into Poland then into western Europe was almost certainly inevitable
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 10:49 AM
7 hrs ago

But did Chamberlain begin arming England for a major war at that time? Did English diplomacy include reaching out to allies to stand firm against further German agression in a collaborative allied military build-up -- sending a strong message that further invasion would be met with a multinational military force?

I believe Chamberlain's Munich agreement sent to Hitler a message of weakness, not strength. I also doubt it delayed Hitler's plan, which was to strike east before striking west.

I'm a little rusty on the history of diplomatic and military preparedness between Chamberlain's "peace in our time" and Hitler's 1939 invasion of Poland, so I'm asking serious questions here.

What I do know is the memory of the 1914-1918 Great War that decimated a generation of young men was still fresh and very painful. The people Did. Not. Want. another major war.

The French thought their Maginot Line would protect them. They had a defensive, as opposed to offensive, mindset.

On the other hand, the British and French (others too?) had agreed to draw the line at Poland. They declared war on Germany when that line was crossed.

Nothing much happened for several months after Germany consolidated its gains in western Poland (Hitler's pact with Stalin had Russia taking eastern Poland). Quiet on the western front promoted a false sense of security while Germany geared up for a blitzkreig that rendered the Maginot Line obsolete.

cstanleytech

(28,140 posts)
21. 'sent to Hitler a message of weakness, not strength.' Was that actually a bad thing in the end though really?
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 12:43 PM
5 hrs ago

I mean by making them look weak it might very well have prevented Hitler from hitting England first has Hitler could have thought he could take it later easily. Had Hitler been able to subdue England early in the war though Germany could have used it as a major base from which to blockcade the rest of Europe. Granted that probably wasn't Chamberlain's intent but it could have had that inadvertent effect.

Martin Eden

(15,266 posts)
24. History has certainly judged it to be so
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 02:40 PM
3 hrs ago

I assume your speculative scenario reasons that a stronger unified message from Britain and France in Sep 1938 would have prompted Hitler to invade the West first, before the allies had time to build up their military capabilities. Of course, Germany would first have to conquer France, which would have become the base. Any amphibious effort to take over England was highly dubious, whether in 1939 or as events unfolded. The Royal Air Force was no slouch, and England's navy was by far the mightiest in Europe.

Alternative history (if this or that happened differently) can be interesting speculation, but I doubt a stronger message from Chamberlain (instead of appeasement) would have altered Germany's strategic need to secure its Eastern front first with a relatively easy victory in Poland. It was good training for their new blitzkreig warfare. Without the Non-aggression pact with Russia, no telling what Stalin would have done. He was a blood enemy, and every bit as murderous a dictator as Hitler.

In any event, Neville Chamberlain earned his infamous place in history.

As will Trump, when his fascist regime is on the ash heap.

PATRICK

(12,333 posts)
31. I heard Chamberlain was worse than that
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 04:03 PM
2 hrs ago

The typical conservative pols and elites supported Hitler. The used the pacifist mood of the angry populace(WWI losses) to smooth the way for corporate takeover and avoiding socialistic goals- like unions. Not just a wimp but an enabler. Many GOP and industrialists were similarly pro-fascist in the business sense.

cstanleytech

(28,140 posts)
35. Well I was thinking more of a blitzkrieg type invasion of England bypassing France for now.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 05:04 PM
1 hr ago

If successful that would pretty much cut off France from getting any assistance from the US after all they could blockade France and the other European nations.

Martin Eden

(15,266 posts)
36. Blitzkreig depends on air and ground forces. You're aware that Great Britain is an island, right?
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 05:42 PM
43 min ago

An island that had a superior navy and a good air force. No way could Germany land massive numbers of tanks and troops, even from France. Bypassing France would require a much longer sea route. There would be no surprise whatsoever, and fighter planes did not have a long range.

The battle of Britain in 1940 when the Germans occupied France consisted of bombing. There was no attempt to ferry troops across the English channel.

The allied powers were able to do that on D-Day in 1944 with superior air, naval, and land forces after a huge build-up when Germany was engaged in a massive land war on the Russian front.

The Madcap

(1,669 posts)
6. In his deranged mind, he would take it as a compliment.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 08:52 AM
9 hrs ago

Being compared to that giant womanizer Wilt Chamberlain is a great schievement....

Sorry for that one....

niyad

(129,168 posts)
8. bacon is a little late to the party. people have been calling krasnov
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 08:58 AM
9 hrs ago

president chamberlain for some time now.

And, just a reminder, bacon. YOU, and your whole stinking party, are responsible for him.

PATRICK

(12,333 posts)
32. Actually, much worse than Chamberlain
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 04:12 PM
2 hrs ago

and worse than my earlier post. He has embraced the sick imperial fantasies of China and Russia in a blatant burlesque attempt to take over other countries in our "sphere". Old, outdated atavistic shit from morons corrupted by money, power and any untimely goal that makes us ALL fools for not removing the very few sociopaths heading the "big" powers of impotent humanity. We have bigger problems than a few failed humans. The greatest shame is to all who had some kind of power(legal or otherwise) to stop this planet wide fiasco and to the rest of us supporting the ridiculous pyramid tomb of the World as it is- and where we allow ourselves to be entombed. A dead rock in a vast cosmos. glory to be erased.

Botany

(76,140 posts)
11. Call it what it is in the Russian dictated ""White House peace plan" a surrender document that rewards Putin.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 09:08 AM
9 hrs ago

It surrenders:

*. A little more than 20% of Ukrainian territory to Russia.

*. Something like 2 million Ukrainian citizens to live under brutal Russian authority.

*. It’s strategic rare earth minerals to Russia and Elon Musk.

*. 20,000 to 90,000 kidnapped Ukrainian children.

*. The right to hold Russia and Putin responsible for brutal war crimes and damages to the nation’s
people, infrastructure, housing, roads, farmlands, and so on.

Good to see that one Republican is man enough to stand up to Trump and Putin. It would be nice to
see more do so

Martin Eden

(15,266 posts)
17. Trump is more like Mussolini
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 10:16 AM
8 hrs ago

With militaristic territorial ambitions of his own, he is taking sides with a fellow dictator.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,503 posts)
19. An apt reference for Donald Trump.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 10:57 AM
7 hrs ago

By telling Putin to keep what he took and take even more, is APPEASEMENT like no one has ever seen before.

For we all know, Ukraine is but a first step in REGAINING the countries that made up the Soviet Union. Putin wants the riches and ports from Russia to the Atlantic Ocean. That includes the UK as well.TACO Don seems okay with that.

Martin68

(26,866 posts)
20. Trump is far worse than Chamberlain. Whereas the name "Chamberlain" is synonymous with appeasement, Trump
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 11:57 AM
6 hrs ago

is not both an appeaser and a greedy fraud who is selling his country out for personal profit.

yorkster

(3,625 posts)
27. Far worse than Chamberlain.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 03:11 PM
3 hrs ago

Trump is a full-on traitor. He would sell anything or anybody for profit or power.

rampartd

(3,388 posts)
29. much worse than chambrtlain, who did not actually join the axis
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 03:24 PM
3 hrs ago

this guy is in guisling to petain category.

Bluetus

(2,097 posts)
30. There is a huge fallacy with this comparison.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 03:53 PM
2 hrs ago

CHamberlain may have been too timid. His lack of fortitude may have brought on WWII, but I have never seen any evidence that Chamberlain personally profited with his deals with Hitler, or was compensated in any way for selling out the people of England or Europe at large.

Trump, on the other hand is truly an agent of Putin's, setting US policy according to Putin's direction.

PATRICK

(12,333 posts)
33. Agree
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 04:15 PM
2 hrs ago

But then Chamberlain got taken down in his dupe stage. Not a mad empty headed despot with delusions either, just the plain old vanilla evil such as keeps the bloated Trump blimp in the air.

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