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8. Most of the national electorate doesn't make a meaningful distinction

Sat Jul 4, 2026, 10:53 AM

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between communism and socialism, and much less between "socialism" and "Democratic Socialism".

Something liberal and progressive political strategists should keep in mind.

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Guess who scares the piss out of Trump more than anyone? [View all] orangecrush 21 hrs ago OP

This is the GOP strategy for November elections. yardwork 21 hrs ago #1

That's already happening here. ananda 19 hrs ago #36

And as Bill Clinton would say so appropriately, Janbdwl72 8 hrs ago #133

he considers all democrats to be commies. rampartd 21 hrs ago #2

If we're all"commies", then how does he explain HE WAS ONE for most of his adult life?? AZ8theist 14 hrs ago #96

as with so much about this freak, no one seems to care. rampartd 14 hrs ago #97

At this point. I'm just doggone tired of him. calimary 6 hrs ago #135

This is not a surprise. Because it works. Callie1979 21 hrs ago #3

Progressive policies are, for the most part, Democratic policies. RandomNumbers 21 hrs ago #7

"Progressive" works for me. An argument with oasis 19 hrs ago #24

Progressive and liberal Democratic policy goals are same, but I see (like in this thread) supposed betsuni 18 hrs ago #41

I come from a family of New Deal Democrats. haele 18 hrs ago #46

Wow orangecrush 16 hrs ago #64

The DS are kicking centrist ass in primaries everywhere orangecrush 16 hrs ago #66

3 isn't everywhere creeksneakers2 16 hrs ago #77

And this is where our pitiful education system comes around to bite us. slightlv 14 hrs ago #98

You're right; they cant. And WE have to understand that. Callie1979 11 hrs ago #116

That one calls for a deep discussion... with a lot of listening, not just talking... slightlv 10 hrs ago #121

Generally this is taught in high school Cosmocat 1 hr ago #137

Like Democratic centrist has gotten us anywhere? paleotn 20 hrs ago #15

I disagree creeksneakers2 18 hrs ago #49

You do realize the bulk of that isn't centrist. paleotn 17 hrs ago #56

Nothing blind about the list creeksneakers2 17 hrs ago #58

Most are not centrist positions. Is that difficult to understand? paleotn 15 hrs ago #92

That's what the people here call them. And Joe Lieberman killed the public option. creeksneakers2 14 hrs ago #95

Oh really. And that makes it so. paleotn 13 hrs ago #102

https://legalclarity.org/aca-vote-in-the-senate-deals-repeal-and-subsidies/ creeksneakers2 9 hrs ago #123

We are not GOP lite creeksneakers2 9 hrs ago #124

Forgot to ask. What did Janet Mills say? paleotn 13 hrs ago #104

With respect to Governor Mills, she isn't really a part of the conversation. mr715 12 hrs ago #114

Was this on the list? creeksneakers2 16 hrs ago #59

I am seeing liberal progressive ideas labelled as centrist. Festivito 2 hrs ago #136

Democratic Socialists are winning primaries orangecrush 16 hrs ago #67

If you think "lack of energy" is why we lost we're still in trouble. Callie1979 11 hrs ago #117

We lost in 2024 because Biden ran for re-election and his campaign collapsed. thought crime 19 hrs ago #30

True, but there were a few other reasons as well. Callie1979 19 hrs ago #37

Nope, that's not it N/T angrychair 19 hrs ago #39

And Milquetoast/Establishment Democrats modrepub 19 hrs ago #33

Division is getting Democracy NOWHERE. Cha 16 hrs ago #65

Ummm orangecrush 16 hrs ago #63

It worked once upon a time TVguyCards 13 hrs ago #101

Great post orangecrush 9 hrs ago #129

To me, there's not much difference, economically speaking, Haggard Celine 8 hrs ago #134

Trump manages to use both scare words - communist and socialist. Norrrm 21 hrs ago #4

Most of the national electorate doesn't make a meaningful distinction RandomNumbers 21 hrs ago #8

We labeled Trump correctly as a fascist. paleotn 20 hrs ago #17

We didn't go strong enough. The Madcap 19 hrs ago #32

Frankly, most Americans don't know what a fascist is any more than they know what a communist or a socialist are, even Karasu 13 hrs ago #110

Exactly Callie1979 19 hrs ago #38

Too late orangecrush 16 hrs ago #69

This is where out education system in America fails us. The GOP has used "Communism" walkingman 21 hrs ago #5

Cheers to Bernie, AOC and all the Democratic Socialists Grim Chieftain 21 hrs ago #6

THIS orangecrush 16 hrs ago #70

Old move, roots in the 1930s kwolf68 20 hrs ago #9

Great points. I was going to say they really are going back to the 50's underpants 20 hrs ago #10

Exactly! paleotn 19 hrs ago #20

I'm worried about the GOP base creeksneakers2 16 hrs ago #82

He's afraid of Democratic Socialists because the_liberal_grandpa 20 hrs ago #11

We want change!!!!!! bdamomma 18 hrs ago #53

The battle has begun orangecrush 16 hrs ago #71

No, he thinks Democratic Socialists will save him. dem4decades 20 hrs ago #12

100% that! oasis 19 hrs ago #29

Not orangecrush 16 hrs ago #81

Please provide me a list of Dems who describe oasis 16 hrs ago #84

Thanks for baiting me orangecrush 16 hrs ago #86

Commies are the new immigrants. betsuni 18 hrs ago #54

Sure orangecrush 16 hrs ago #80

Yeah, I'm sure. dem4decades 16 hrs ago #83

I'm sure I'm saying bye. orangecrush 16 hrs ago #85

How many of the MAGAs are ready to surrender social security, food programs Baitball Blogger 20 hrs ago #13

They did all that the instant Elon's DOGE became a thing. Karasu 13 hrs ago #109

He's married and has daughters, so that's a trick question. Igel 20 hrs ago #14

Laying the groundwork for terrorizing the people orthoclad 20 hrs ago #16

especially Trumps private taxpayer paid militia, ICE and CBP. OGBuzz 18 hrs ago #43

Yep. Make us pay the bill for our own oppression, orthoclad 16 hrs ago #74

It's just a tired old scare tactic that went out of vogue in the late 50s. He's not afraid of communists, he's afraid of Martin68 19 hrs ago #18

Trump has no idea what true "communism" is or how it functions. Even China is far from "communist". OGBuzz 18 hrs ago #44

No Republicans know the damn difference anymore, if they ever did. Now they openly celebrate ignorance. Karasu 13 hrs ago #108

My all time favourite was when he made this comment about Kamala Harris: OGBuzz 13 hrs ago #111

Man...I had somehow forgotten about that. Only idiots who don't know the difference would be dumb enough to think that Karasu 12 hrs ago #112

Send Bernie Sanders to yell at him. milestogo 19 hrs ago #19

Yes, Bernie Sanders is the poster child of the Democratic Socialists... kentuck 16 hrs ago #61

He knows shit about the Constitution. spanone 19 hrs ago #21

He shits ON the Constitution. orangecrush 16 hrs ago #79

That too! spanone 15 hrs ago #88

He brought this on with his policies. Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #22

What makes you think they scare him? EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #23

Trump nor his maga klan could define the word "socialist" IcyPeas 19 hrs ago #25

Trump/GOP are Nazis DemocracyForever 19 hrs ago #26

Comuniwhat? What year does he think it is? Dave Bowman 19 hrs ago #27

OP coming soon orangecrush 16 hrs ago #78

It amazes me how the GQP still gets traction out of the exact same bullshit they've been saying since the fucking '40s. Karasu 13 hrs ago #107

Because Democrat Socialists are antithetical and a threat to fascism and no_hypocrisy 19 hrs ago #28

This. They're the only real threat to it in a country where the Overton window skews so ridiculously far to the right. Karasu 13 hrs ago #106

Good observation orangecrush 9 hrs ago #131

Like A Zombie Corpse Of Joe McCarthy 2na fisherman 19 hrs ago #31

Doubly ridiculous to the majority of voters orangecrush 16 hrs ago #76

Let's just mention how much he likes Putin. Probatim 19 hrs ago #34

I don't think it scares him one bit. LisaL 19 hrs ago #35

Not all voters angrychair 18 hrs ago #42

For every action there is a reaction. The MAGAts are terrified because they know that the Democratic Socialists flashman13 19 hrs ago #40

THIS orangecrush 16 hrs ago #75

Let's hope history repeats itself, then. Wednesdays 14 hrs ago #100

The recent special elections and Democratic primaries all tell me that people are done with business as usual. flashman13 13 hrs ago #105

... orangecrush 9 hrs ago #128

Great post orangecrush 9 hrs ago #126

MAGA.... BobTheSubgenius 18 hrs ago #45

Democratic Socialists and progressive Democrats are a direct result of Buddyzbuddy 18 hrs ago #47

Hey Donny, you're gonna lose! Get used to it! Initech 18 hrs ago #48

Post removed Post removed 18 hrs ago #50

Are you saying that there are a lot of elected Democrats RandomNumbers 18 hrs ago #52

Bye orangecrush 16 hrs ago #73

Just completely bdamomma 18 hrs ago #51

If I received a dollar every time "centrist" is used as an insult for Democrats, by 2028 I'll be a billionaire. betsuni 18 hrs ago #55

He sees them as a foil that can be easily labeled as communists. everyonematters 17 hrs ago #57

I thought it was going to be women of color. KS Toronado 16 hrs ago #60

My thought was Jack Smith Tbear 15 hrs ago #90

Don't flatter yourselves. Fearmongering and manipulating the GOP base isn't being scared. thebigidea 16 hrs ago #62

His henchmen and family going to prison orangecrush 16 hrs ago #72

IRS Agents with Integrity Kid Berwyn 16 hrs ago #68

True orangecrush 16 hrs ago #87

We've always been at war with Emmanuel Goldstein The Blue Flower 15 hrs ago #89

Nailed it orangecrush 15 hrs ago #91

As they get rid of the immigrants,... LudwigPastorius 15 hrs ago #93

It's what they do. Nt orangecrush 9 hrs ago #130

McCarthyism 2.0? Roy Cohn Esq. was Fred and Don's lawyer and also McCarthy's, as well as mob bosses in NY. Evolve Dammit 15 hrs ago #94

History repeating itself orangecrush 9 hrs ago #132

That is the thing. OldBaldy1701E 14 hrs ago #99

A friendly reminder (and a serious one) TVguyCards 13 hrs ago #103

It's the familiar patriotism of worried gangsters struggle4progress 12 hrs ago #113

How many remember that Chump used to be a D, and he voted D FakeNoose 11 hrs ago #115

He thinks Gavin Newsom is a communist. Zelda_Orchid 11 hrs ago #118

Don't leave out Sen Jon Ossoff, and Hakeem Cha 10 hrs ago #119

Power to "We the People" will be demonized Emile 10 hrs ago #120

We need to grab the frame Bluetus 9 hrs ago #122

Thank you orangecrush 9 hrs ago #125

It doesnt work on voters SSJVegeta 9 hrs ago #127