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pat_k

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10. Perhaps this is just another loss to be denied, but it feels different.

Wed Jun 17, 2026, 12:10 PM

Wednesday

Roy Cohn taught him well (link)

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. . Cohn imparted an M.O. that’s been on searing display throughout Trump’s ascent, his divisive, captivating campaign, and his fraught, unprecedented presidency. Deflect and distract, never give in, never admit fault, lie and attack, lie and attack, publicity no matter what, win no matter what, all underpinned by a deep, prove-me-wrong belief in the power of chaos and fear.
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What feels different about this is that I think his NPD would have had him endlessly screaming at his "negotiation team" to get a better deal. And when they did not, he would have cast himself as the "strongman" holding out for that better deal.

The thing is, this is just too public and obviously humiliating a loss. It's not like a lost election that he can scream "rigged" about. It's not like a secret lawsuit settlement he can claim was a "win." This is a gargantuan loss and humiliating deal on the world stage that his is publicly walking into. Mechanisms for denying that reality are pretty non-existent.

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My bet: The felon has deteriorated too much to be cognizant of the humiliation. [View all] pat_k Wednesday OP

Win or lose... lame54 Wednesday #1

When a person has no memory of what's happening hour-to-hour, it becomes even easier to confabulate to match fantasies. pat_k Wednesday #4

In addition to cognitive factors, he may be more insulated than he used to be. RockRaven Wednesday #2

He is but he still knows. underpants Wednesday #7

If his short-term memory is shot to hell, as I suspect..... pat_k Wednesday #23

He's always been shameless, especially at lying. surfered Wednesday #3

He's constructed his own reality his whole life, but reality has a nasty way of inserting itself. pat_k Wednesday #5

He has always been shameless - because of his NPD. maxsolomon Wednesday #6

Perhaps this is just another loss to be denied, but it feels different. pat_k Wednesday #10

I hope you're right. maxsolomon Wednesday #16

If my guess is right and his short-term memory is shot to hell... pat_k Wednesday #22

I think that his reptilian brain picks up negative vibes from people wnylib Wednesday #34

Wouldn't surprise me. pat_k Wednesday #35

correct Skittles Wednesday #25

Good bet malaise Wednesday #8

The scope of the defeat is stunning even to Trump haters Prairie Gates Wednesday #9

He's in rapid cognitive decline... agingdem Wednesday #11

The felon does think his followers are imbeciles Progressive dog Wednesday #12

Facebook has been showing me Reels of fresh interviews with die-hard MAGAts. maxsolomon Wednesday #19

I think it merely shows his desperation misanthrope Wednesday #13

Could certainly be the case. But if there were a way to resolve the bet, I'd put money on short-term memory deficit... pat_k Wednesday #15

What a nut you have to watch it to believe it. ArnoldLayne Wednesday #14

Krasnov is doing it to avoid $7/gal gas on the 4th of July, gab13by13 Wednesday #17

As I replied above, he certainly may know what he's doing... pat_k Wednesday #21

Well that press conference is all the evidence you needed malaise Wednesday #18

That was pretty obvious in the state visit to China. Hugin Wednesday #20

Narcissists generally have very poor self recognition. They don't do "shame"... Wounded Bear Wednesday #24

Perhaps I need a word other than "humiliating" to capture... pat_k Wednesday #28

My prediction: He signs an Iran agreement shortly before dying. eggplant Wednesday #26

Nah Johnny2X2X Wednesday #27

Could be. However, when details are made public, I suspect that... pat_k Wednesday #30

The current deal un-freezes all of their assets Johnny2X2X Wednesday #31

Which makes his condemnations of JPCOA laughable. pat_k Wednesday #32

P.S. I'm assuming you meant "deal unfreezes" pat_k Wednesday #33

Yah think? malaise Wednesday #29