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paleotn

(22,737 posts)
15. So your asking them to prove a negative?
Tue May 19, 2026, 11:59 AM
23 hrs ago

That's not how this works. Might as well asked them to prove Santa doesn't in fact exist. How this is supposed to work is you make the claim, YOU back it up with evidence.

So far the evidence is very, very thin amounting to merely claims without evidence. Given the complexity, variability, and size of the US election system, a rational view is more than likely it wasn't tampered with directly. With the power of social media, you really don't have to.

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Another lie from this substack EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #1
So, you're saying conclusively DV1 Yesterday #4
Based on all the available evidence no it wasn't EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #7
So your asking them to prove a negative? paleotn 23 hrs ago #15
This. Straight generic nonpartisan logic. Permanut 9 hrs ago #77
I so wish it were Miguelito Loveless 22 hrs ago #28
They seem to throw around the word "rigged" a lot to garner attention ToxMarz 23 hrs ago #11
That's a really weird miss-statement of what Cambridge Analytica did. Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #57
No it isn't EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #60
Yes it is. Scrivener7 17 hrs ago #62
Nothing in there about changing cast votes EdmondDantes_ 17 hrs ago #63
Your argument was that all they did was "persuade people to vote for Trump." Scrivener7 17 hrs ago #64
Who claimed votes were changed? live love laugh 1 hr ago #79
Trump and Musk already admitted so this is conformation. Blue Full Moon 17 hrs ago #66
And trump telling his audiences that they didn't need to show up to vote? BComplex 2 hrs ago #78
Conspiracy theories targeting MAGA is perfect Johonny Yesterday #2
BlueAnon RetiredParatrooper Yesterday #3
American citizens overseeing their own vote count is what the founders questionseverything 20 hrs ago #51
Bull. Lies. Nonsense. Please delete. mr715 Yesterday #5
Yeah, how dare anyone think Trump & Co would do something underhanded! 31st Street Bridge 20 hrs ago #52
Implicitly accusing both Biden and Harris of ineptitude and/or malevolence mr715 20 hrs ago #54
Dems/some group need to subpoena her and obtain a bench warrant for all the real time texts she got from Musk. ancianita Yesterday #6
AND an order to take custody of all the ballots in all of the voting locations that showed the vote-flipping pattern. Bluetus 21 hrs ago #37
K & R bookmarking FakeNoose Yesterday #8
Don't be gullible. This is how THEY act when THEY lose. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #9
More bullshit for This Will Hold Wiz Imp Yesterday #10
AMEN! ancianita 23 hrs ago #17
I'm Certain This Is Accurate ProfessorGAC 23 hrs ago #12
And the other half is not suprised. ananda 23 hrs ago #13
The addiction to these conspiracy theories is really quite pathetic. tritsofme 23 hrs ago #14
Conspiracy 'theories" can become investigations, which can then become allegations, and/or filed charges. There is ancianita 23 hrs ago #18
Believing a theory a priori because it makes you feel good mr715 23 hrs ago #19
It isn't just the believing that makes them so. Belief based on what's probable can, through effort, change a "theory', ancianita 22 hrs ago #25
I guess I distinguish between "belief" and "believing" mr715 22 hrs ago #31
And what's the difference given those both have the same corroboration? EdmondDantes_ 23 hrs ago #23
I hear you. ancianita 22 hrs ago #27
The Starlink Conspiracy Theory was debunked long ago Wiz Imp 20 hrs ago #49
The people who continue to deny this operation occurred have no clue about the technical issues involved Bluetus 21 hrs ago #40
Musk's Starlink Was Not Connected to Vote Tabulation Wiz Imp 21 hrs ago #47
Jeeze, not this shit again. Starlink is just an ISP.... reACTIONary 1 hr ago #81
Sure, it's not like the government is hiding flying saucers from the public. Kid Berwyn 23 hrs ago #21
It is discouraging that so many people here are in such deep denial Bluetus 21 hrs ago #43
Wasting precious time ... littlemissmartypants 21 hrs ago #45
Maybe I'm missing something, but all that story says is that Musk knew the results of the election earlier than he Fil1957 23 hrs ago #16
If musk knew the vote early he was tampering with the election and was into the Central Tabulators and the Botany 22 hrs ago #24
Coincidentally, the internet shut down for hours across states in months running up to Nov 2024. More than one source ancianita 22 hrs ago #30
O.K. which one of these things is wrong? Botany 23 hrs ago #20
Where is the evidence beyond vibes? mr715 23 hrs ago #22
Almost every one of those points can be .. Botany 22 hrs ago #33
Post removed Post removed 21 hrs ago #38
Authentic Frontier Gibberish Botany 17 hrs ago #67
Love the plausible timeline. But is there a credible link to make the timeline credible? Here's what DTC Starlink is ancianita 21 hrs ago #34
Also, lasers have fuck-all to do with Starlink's potential to interfere with voting machines. LudwigPastorius 21 hrs ago #35
Of course not. It's was an EXAMPLE of an impossible to prove conspiracy theory. The Starlink connection is through ancianita 17 hrs ago #65
I will graciously accept apologies from people who accused me Bluetus 22 hrs ago #26
All federal election material, by law has to be kept 22 months questionseverything 22 hrs ago #29
Have you noticed that neither Musk nor Trump care about any laws? Bluetus 21 hrs ago #36
Have you noticed neither of them are able to chew gum mr715 21 hrs ago #41
No, I have not noticed that about Musk. Bluetus 20 hrs ago #58
In my county in Illinois I can do a foia and look at the ballots for the last questionseverything 21 hrs ago #42
Absolutely. Even if it isn't explicitly allowed by law Bluetus 21 hrs ago #46
Please don't be offended but I think we spend too much time trying to figure out "how " questionseverything 20 hrs ago #50
I'm not offended, but that sounds pretty quixotic to me Bluetus 19 hrs ago #59
Hand counting paper ballots greatly reduces the chance of hacking questionseverything 16 hrs ago #69
That will be a tough sell Bluetus 11 hrs ago #74
Maybe a compromise could be only hand counting the top two races? questionseverything 9 hrs ago #76
I don't think people will accept such a delay Bluetus 1 hr ago #80
How long a hand count takes depends on the size of the precinct questionseverything 46 min ago #82
And as I said when Bluetus posted that information, B.See 11 hrs ago #73
This is just embarrassing. LudwigPastorius 22 hrs ago #32
I'm not a big believer in this particular theory. BannonsLiver 21 hrs ago #39
lol, is probably good enough? questionseverything 21 hrs ago #44
Sounds great. BannonsLiver 12 hrs ago #71
No one has to change the tabulator, just to change what the spreadsheet reports questionseverything 11 hrs ago #72
Abracadabra! danieljsf 20 hrs ago #48
Ashley obnoxiousdrunk 20 hrs ago #53
Post removed Post removed 20 hrs ago #55
Down-ballot Discrepancies LessAspin 20 hrs ago #56
Find 11,780 Votes LessAspin 19 hrs ago #61
This should be an op, very well put together questionseverything 9 hrs ago #75
De rec this CT bollocks (& an attack on Biden, Harris, & Blue state leaders) from BlueAnon loons at This Will Hold Celerity 16 hrs ago #68
Ashley St. Clair was a RW grifter until her money spigot got shut off. Seeking Serenity 16 hrs ago #70
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