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107. So somehow I've been out of the loop with this entire topic
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:39 PM
11 hrs ago

My attempt to learn:

can you briefly summarize the controversy with Graham Platner within the Democratic party

Graham Platner, a 2026 Maine Democratic Senate candidate, faced significant controversy over past inflammatory Reddit posts and a Nazi-linked tattoo. While leading in polls and pushing a progressive, working-class platform that forced establishment candidates like Janet Mills to drop out, his past, including mocking sexual assault and denigrating police, created severe electability concerns for party leaders.

He has since apologized and secured the nomination, but his history continues to cause concern.


How did he mock sexual assault?

Platner’s mockery of sexual assault primarily involved victim-blaming comments and dismissiveness toward military reporting in a series of 2013 Reddit posts.

His most controversial statements include:

* Blaming Alcohol Consumption: In response to a thread about "anti-rape" shorts, Platner suggested victims should "take some responsibility for themselves" and not get so intoxicated that they "wind up having sex with someone they don't mean to".

* Dismissing Military Reporting Challenges: Platner downplayed the difficulty of reporting sexual assault in the military, calling anyone who believed the military purposefully covered up rape "an idiot".

* Use of Slurs: When another user suggested that units could easily "skirt" investigations, Platner responded by asking if they were "retarded" or "somewhat challenged".

* Skepticism of Systemic Issues: He characterized widespread concerns about military sexual assault as being fueled by people who "once watched 'Invisible War'" (a 2012 documentary on the subject) rather than reality.


How did he denigrate police?

Graham Platner’s denigration of police centered on aggressive social media rhetoric, most notably the use of the "ACAB" (All Cops Are Bastards) slogan and direct insults toward law enforcement leadership.

Specific Controversial Statements:

* "All of them in fact": In a 2021 Reddit thread discussing police misconduct and systemic corruption following the 2020 murder of George Floyd, a user posted "Bastards. Cops are bastards." Platner responded with, "All of them, in fact".

* "F—k these cops": He used this phrase in separate threads to express frustration with police violence.

* "Thin blue line trash": Platner criticized a police chief's attitude during a public event, labeling the officer's behavior as an example of "thin blue line trash".


Final question that I was cut off in the middle of asking but the AI knew where I was headed....?

Is there any current evidence linking him to...

There is no known evidence linking Graham Platner to extremist or white supremacist groups today. Recent investigations and reports confirm that while his past remains a central point of political attack, he has actively worked to distance himself from those symbols and ideologies.

## Current Evidence & Recent Events (2025–2026)
The controversy remains "current" due to ongoing political campaigns, but the evidence focuses on his past rather than current affiliations:

* Tattoo Removal/Cover-up: In October 2025, Platner publicly covered the "Totenkopf" tattoo with a new design of a Celtic knot and dogs.

* KFile Investigation (2025): A CNN KFile report uncovered deleted posts and an interview with an acquaintance suggesting Platner may have been aware of the symbol's controversial nature in military circles earlier than he claimed. However, this investigation highlighted past defensive comments rather than any current membership in extremist groups.

* Primary Victory (May 2026): As of late April 2026, Governor Janet Mills suspended her Senate campaign, effectively making Platner the Democratic nominee. This suggests that while leadership was initially wary, they are now coalescing around him for the general election.

## Endorsements and Defenses
* Bernie Sanders & Elizabeth Warren: Both Senators Sanders and Warren have maintained their endorsements, with Warren stating she believes his apologies are sincere and reflect personal growth.

* Chris Van Hollen: The Maryland Senator defended Platner as a veteran who struggled with PTSD but has since "learned from his mistakes".


So based on that information, I see some contradictions in his character. On one hand, there's definitely an authoritarian mindset when it comes to the military sexual assault issue. His comments lacked compassion for women and automatically took the side of the institution. The comments about personal responsibility will probably resonate with a large percentage of the population, but both sentiments can be true: that the military systematically covered up or helped rapists and that some of the situations were avoidable.

However, his authoritarian mindset seems to slip away when it comes to the police - it seems he's able to clearly see and acknowledge the problems within that institution without qualifiers.

So this discrepancy could indicate a little bit (or a lot) of sexism or a lack of empathy with regard to others who face institutional oppression that he hasn't personally dealt with.

In my opinion, his mindset is more associated with conservative / republicans, so it does make me wonder why he's running as a Democrat. Is the republican machine so heavily invested in Collins, perhaps due to the purple nature of the state, that he didn't see a way in?

However, his endorsements from Bernie and E Warren are telling, as they both have personalities that are slightly outside of the personality types typically associated with our party. I really didn't like Warren in the beginning but then during tRump's first presidency, she came to the forefront as a leader and I was able to see how those characteristics play out when we're at war. She's a fighter! We are many things, I believe we are the smarter group, but a lot of times the fight just isn't there due to our wiring.

I don't live in Maine, but at this point, our hands are a little tied. He is the nominee, and he might bring the type of change that we need at a time like this. I say, vote for him because Collins is clearly compromised and we know that. Platner is the unknown, obviously. Hopefully, he's not worse. I guess we'll have to see.

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Platner knows the truth about the robber barons and Wall Street. This is why the POB will oppose PatrickforB Friday #1
What does POB mean? ShazzieB Friday #15
I think they meant the PTB, ie (the) Powers That Be Celerity Friday #16
Okay, that makes sense! ShazzieB Friday #36
Jon Stewart with Graham Platner - 1 1/2 hr person to person interview. magicarpet Friday #55
That interview really impressed me. ShazzieB 15 hrs ago #72
Why Platner NOW.....? magicarpet 13 hrs ago #87
Let's make them the TPTSNB "The powers that should never be." GreenWave Friday #41
LOL, I'm sorry! That is me being full of you-know-what. I meant powers that be. As in PatrickforB Friday #23
Thanks! ShazzieB Friday #38
Also the nazi tattoo thing is misleading SSJVegeta Friday #2
Do they also know that millions of Americans have had tattoos removed TheProle Friday #5
He's had it covered with a new tattoo. Fiendish Thingy Friday #7
Thanks for the correction, FT TheProle Friday #8
Only when it became an election liability wackadoo wabbit Friday #63
And Maine voters seem perfectly happy to elect him as the Democratic nominee. Nt Fiendish Thingy Friday #64
70 million Americans voted for Trump, not sure how happily. displacedvermoter 14 hrs ago #78
People who served in the Marines knew in 2007 that a totenkopf was an unacceptable tattoo. Platner himself would have WhiskeyGrinder Friday #12
Also unauthorized in the NG RetiredParatrooper Friday #14
Interesting, I was under the impression he had shopped around NG units until he found someone to write a very generous WhiskeyGrinder Friday #28
Do you know what this is? RetiredParatrooper Friday #51
It does track. ShazzieB Friday #35
If he had the SS runes, it would be a different matter RetiredParatrooper Friday #49
Not really. No. Talk tonsomebody who served in his unit or an adjacent one. SSJVegeta Friday #17
"Talk tonsomebody who served in his unit or an adjacent one." Are there interviews with people he's served with? WhiskeyGrinder Friday #30
There are plenty enough probably on this site (not necessarily from his unit) but SSJVegeta Friday #34
Oh I didn't mean culture-wise. I'm very familiar with that. I just meant is there was anyone who could vouch for him as WhiskeyGrinder Friday #39
Yeah in that case you are right. Nobody has publicly come out and endorsed him who served in his unit (AFAIK). SSJVegeta Friday #46
Shoot, Eko Friday #62
Probably a nazi unfit for office and will never learn SSJVegeta 21 hrs ago #69
Many years ago in my late 30's I went Tree Lady Friday #37
They have a very "work hard play hard" culture -especially the 3/8ths (3rd battallion 8th Marines)) SSJVegeta Friday #42
Your making me think of lecture Tree Lady Friday #45
Regiment RetiredParatrooper 5 hrs ago #131
And if the reports that he referred to it as "my totenkopf" is true? EdmondDantes_ Friday #48
Yes. SSJVegeta Friday #50
Ah yes the ever funny "I'm a nazi" joke EdmondDantes_ 15 hrs ago #73
Yes. Totally. I guess it is better to let the GOP control the senate SSJVegeta 13 hrs ago #83
Sorry, some principles go above party id EdmondDantes_ 13 hrs ago #89
That's Politico for you. AloeVera Friday #61
AloeVera you are always quite sharp mr715 12 hrs ago #93
Very kind of you. Thank you. I think I'm just naturally suspicious lol! AloeVera 6 hrs ago #130
My first duty station was at Montford Point, Camp Lejeune. Dyedinthewoolliberal 15 hrs ago #70
Anybody's better than "Concerned" Collins Ritabert Friday #3
To put it frankly, yes. SSJVegeta Friday #9
She needs to be voted out. Pathetic. Ritabert Friday #10
And despite the many complaints, Fetterman's a lot better than having Mehmet Oz in the Senate. sop Friday #21
Not much, but yes, he is. n/t PatrickforB Friday #24
From 'Progressive Punch': sop Friday #32
I have a feeling he's worried because his wife was an undocumented migrant from Brazil Ritabert Friday #44
His brain is pudding. mr715 9 hrs ago #115
It sure seems like it. Ritabert 7 hrs ago #121
Angus King is not a Democrat he is an Independent. sheshe2 12 hrs ago #99
This is a question I've had for a while. mr715 10 hrs ago #114
Here is a chart you might find helpful. sheshe2 9 hrs ago #116
But what of votes for leadership? mr715 9 hrs ago #117
You are welcome. sheshe2 9 hrs ago #118
Dan Osborne mr715 8 hrs ago #119
I really didn't know anything about the man sheshe2 7 hrs ago #122
Yet he is preferable to the alternative. mr715 7 hrs ago #123
I will take your word for it as I don't know anything about him. sheshe2 7 hrs ago #126
And Platner is better than Fetterman still SSJVegeta Friday #52
It's funny how they pick and choose who to apply their strict litmus tests to. W_HAMILTON Friday #4
Like The People, he's flawed, imperfect, passionate. Liberal elites "vilify" The People, "crass and offensive." betsuni Friday #11
like misogyny Skittles Friday #59
Yes, that sticks out as much as the white male billionaire Nixie 11 min ago #135
Thanks for bringing facts and reason to the discussion. Nt Fiendish Thingy Friday #6
It's funny how the ones always screaming Purity Test Emile Friday #56
Emile... they don't care about purity tests. mr715 12 hrs ago #97
Platner's not perfect, but there is no such thing as the perfect candidate. He is however, a strong candidate to oppose Fil1957 Friday #13
Shockingly, MorbidButterflyTat Friday #18
Nothing about his comment about Blacks being bad tippers, either. He was 29 years old at the time... QueerDuck Friday #22
This is an insightful and important comment to consider. SSJVegeta Friday #54
Comments from social media forwarded to me excuse those revolting comments niyad Friday #26
or how he laughs at those who call him a liberal. mercuryblues Friday #43
of course not Skittles Friday #58
Branko thinks he can gaslight people on Graham Platner Quiet Em Friday #60
Agree - but that said, it is time accept that he is the Dem nominee RandomNumbers 15 hrs ago #71
I understand or accept that Platner is likely to be the Democratic nominee, he isn't yet, but he is likely Quiet Em 14 hrs ago #75
You don't have to accept or ignore ... but I would ask RandomNumbers 14 hrs ago #76
I absolutely understand the importance of flipping this Maine Senate seat blue Quiet Em 14 hrs ago #79
Agree. MorbidButterflyTat 13 hrs ago #81
Platner is the strong favorite, with one poll showing him leading with 46% support compared to 4% for Costello Emile 13 hrs ago #82
Wait-a-sec... mr715 12 hrs ago #94
Is this your understanding of what I wrote? Quiet Em 12 hrs ago #100
No, we should not. mr715 12 hrs ago #101
How many times do I have to say that I agree he is the likely nominee? Quiet Em 12 hrs ago #104
You are not the person I am taking issue with. mr715 12 hrs ago #105
there is another possibility here. nt msongs Friday #19
Jacobin. QueerDuck Friday #20
Just got an email from Bernie Sanders. "How did Graham win?" usonian Friday #25
There's always someone crafting their edges bucolic_frolic Friday #27
Jacobin helped get Trump elected in 2016. johnp3907 Friday #29
I don't want swong19104 Friday #31
Things are very seldom black/white good/bad. People need to be taken as a whole. Martin Eden Friday #33
Everyone needs to remain vigilant about Politicub Friday #40
The "VoteBlue no matter who" crowd certainly seems upset by him nt Rob H. Friday #47
Hmmm. I wonder if the Totenkopf tattoo has anything to do with it. Or the misogynistic comments, or the ... QueerDuck Friday #53
The Five Stages of Graham Sympthsical Yesterday #65
I mean my acceptance started at the passive aggressive and quickly morphed into full fledged support SSJVegeta 23 hrs ago #66
It's kind of interesting to think about Sympthsical 22 hrs ago #67
Well said! SSJVegeta 21 hrs ago #68
The Real Five Stages of Platner MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #80
If I got a tattoo and didn't know what it meant or what it depicted SidneyR 13 hrs ago #84
Stage 6: Inauguration. mr715 12 hrs ago #92
Do you care more about that than health care for the poor and dying? Sympthsical 12 hrs ago #95
But but but purity tests. mr715 12 hrs ago #96
It's faux purity Sympthsical 11 hrs ago #106
See that is the thing... mr715 10 hrs ago #112
Can I get an amen up in here Sympthsical 6 hrs ago #129
Thank you. mr715 4 hrs ago #132
Even his comments on Jen Psaki's show miss the point. Nixie 20 min ago #134
"My purity test is no purity tests!!" mr715 13 hrs ago #86
I'll agree his views "don't fit in a box" Skittles Friday #57
There is an unfortunate strain of misogyny Skittles jfz9580m 7 hrs ago #124
don't even get me started on BS Skittles 7 hrs ago #125
What about ass kicking lessons??? jfz9580m 7 hrs ago #127
Has he ever explained why he voted for Susan Collins? Nixie 15 hrs ago #74
Give it up. mr715 13 hrs ago #90
It was posted somewhere here. He thought she was a 'moderate'. RandomNumbers 12 hrs ago #102
Welcome to Maine ThreeNoSeep 12 hrs ago #103
Ayah. eShirl 10 hrs ago #111
Then why does he seem to run more against Democrats than Nixie 41 min ago #133
I'm beginning to think some people would prefer conservative Susan over Platner. We have Emile 14 hrs ago #77
Having Fetterman (D) in the Senate is actually better than having Dr. Oz thought crime 13 hrs ago #85
Yes. mr715 13 hrs ago #88
Simultaneity Quanto Magnus 12 hrs ago #91
Got an email from Senator Wyden yesterday asking me to consider contributing to Platner. Good enough for me. Wyden's KPN 12 hrs ago #98
So somehow I've been out of the loop with this entire topic ecstatic 11 hrs ago #107
Thanks for this. nt LAS14 11 hrs ago #109
You don't gotta like it, but Platner is the Dem nominee duckworth969 11 hrs ago #108
If he were to lose... mr715 10 hrs ago #113
Wait a young Marine doing something really stupid when they were drunk? gay texan 10 hrs ago #110
He has a quote indicating he takes climate change seriously jfz9580m 7 hrs ago #120
I love Cory Booker JustAnotherGen 7 hrs ago #128
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