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mainer

(12,568 posts)
Fri May 1, 2026, 02:04 PM Yesterday

"You're being lied to about Graham Platner"

Reading through Platner’s many hundreds of anonymous comments, it’s hard to paint him as a secret white supremacist or far-right extremist of any kind. In fact, his posts more or less align with the persona he has presented to voters in the two months since he launched his campaign: a rough-around-the-edges military veteran and oyster farmer with a penchant for crude language and a passion for firearms and sustainable living who holds a variety of standard progressive views alongside some heterodox ones...
(snip)

Platner’s Reddit archive contains thousands of comments over more than a decade, and it is possible to single out many of them to accuse him of any number of unflattering things. This is, in fact, exactly what seems to be happening in the media coverage of his posts, in which Platner is simultaneously portrayed as both a bigoted, far-right reactionary, and a dangerous left-wing radical.

But read in their totality, Platner’s posts paint a different picture of the candidate: someone who, far from a secret fascist, was openly and passionately opposed to fascism; who held a variety of typical progressive views even as he expressed himself in ways many liberals would regard as crass and offensive; who sympathizes with rural Americans despite being vehemently opposed to many of the candidates they vote for; and who was disillusioned with and radicalized against the system by US wars.

Platner, in other words, comes off as a flawed, complicated, and sometimes contradictory human being whose political views don’t always fit neatly into a box. In that, he resembles millions of Americans — including some of the exact voter demographics that American liberals say they want to win back, yet seemingly can’t help but vilify.



https://jacobin.com/2025/10/platner-maine-senate-reddit-media
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"You're being lied to about Graham Platner" (Original Post) mainer Yesterday OP
Platner knows the truth about the robber barons and Wall Street. This is why the POB will oppose PatrickforB Yesterday #1
What does POB mean? ShazzieB Yesterday #15
I think they meant the PTB, ie (the) Powers That Be Celerity Yesterday #16
Okay, that makes sense! ShazzieB Yesterday #36
Jon Stewart with Graham Platner - 1 1/2 hr person to person interview. magicarpet 22 hrs ago #55
That interview really impressed me. ShazzieB 6 hrs ago #72
Why Platner NOW.....? magicarpet 3 hrs ago #87
Let's make them the TPTSNB "The powers that should never be." GreenWave Yesterday #41
LOL, I'm sorry! That is me being full of you-know-what. I meant powers that be. As in PatrickforB Yesterday #23
Thanks! ShazzieB Yesterday #38
Also the nazi tattoo thing is misleading SSJVegeta Yesterday #2
Do they also know that millions of Americans have had tattoos removed TheProle Yesterday #5
He's had it covered with a new tattoo. Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #7
Thanks for the correction, FT TheProle Yesterday #8
Only when it became an election liability wackadoo wabbit 19 hrs ago #63
And Maine voters seem perfectly happy to elect him as the Democratic nominee. Nt Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #64
70 million Americans voted for Trump, not sure how happily. displacedvermoter 4 hrs ago #78
People who served in the Marines knew in 2007 that a totenkopf was an unacceptable tattoo. Platner himself would have WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #12
Also unauthorized in the NG RetiredParatrooper Yesterday #14
Interesting, I was under the impression he had shopped around NG units until he found someone to write a very generous WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #28
Do you know what this is? RetiredParatrooper 23 hrs ago #51
It does track. ShazzieB Yesterday #35
If he had the SS runes, it would be a different matter RetiredParatrooper 23 hrs ago #49
Not really. No. Talk tonsomebody who served in his unit or an adjacent one. SSJVegeta Yesterday #17
"Talk tonsomebody who served in his unit or an adjacent one." Are there interviews with people he's served with? WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #30
There are plenty enough probably on this site (not necessarily from his unit) but SSJVegeta Yesterday #34
Oh I didn't mean culture-wise. I'm very familiar with that. I just meant is there was anyone who could vouch for him as WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #39
Yeah in that case you are right. Nobody has publicly come out and endorsed him who served in his unit (AFAIK). SSJVegeta Yesterday #46
Shoot, Eko 19 hrs ago #62
Probably a nazi unfit for office and will never learn SSJVegeta 11 hrs ago #69
Many years ago in my late 30's I went Tree Lady Yesterday #37
They have a very "work hard play hard" culture -especially the 3/8ths (3rd battallion 8th division) SSJVegeta Yesterday #42
Your making me think of lecture Tree Lady Yesterday #45
And if the reports that he referred to it as "my totenkopf" is true? EdmondDantes_ 23 hrs ago #48
Yes. SSJVegeta 23 hrs ago #50
Ah yes the ever funny "I'm a nazi" joke EdmondDantes_ 6 hrs ago #73
Yes. Totally. I guess it is better to let the GOP control the senate SSJVegeta 4 hrs ago #83
Sorry, some principles go above party id EdmondDantes_ 3 hrs ago #89
That's Politico for you. AloeVera 22 hrs ago #61
AloeVera you are always quite sharp mr715 3 hrs ago #93
My first duty station was at Montford Point, Camp Lejeune. Dyedinthewoolliberal 6 hrs ago #70
Anybody's better than "Concerned" Collins Ritabert Yesterday #3
To put it frankly, yes. SSJVegeta Yesterday #9
She needs to be voted out. Pathetic. Ritabert Yesterday #10
And despite the many complaints, Fetterman's a lot better than having Mehmet Oz in the Senate. sop Yesterday #21
Not much, but yes, he is. n/t PatrickforB Yesterday #24
From 'Progressive Punch': sop Yesterday #32
I have a feeling he's worried because his wife was an undocumented migrant from Brazil Ritabert Yesterday #44
His brain is pudding. mr715 43 min ago #115
Angus King is not a Democrat he is an Independent. sheshe2 2 hrs ago #99
This is a question I've had for a while. mr715 48 min ago #114
Here is a chart you might find helpful. sheshe2 6 min ago #116
But what of votes for leadership? mr715 1 min ago #117
And Platner is better than Fetterman still SSJVegeta 23 hrs ago #52
It's funny how they pick and choose who to apply their strict litmus tests to. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #4
Like The People, he's flawed, imperfect, passionate. Liberal elites "vilify" The People, "crass and offensive." betsuni Yesterday #11
like misogyny Skittles 22 hrs ago #59
Thanks for bringing facts and reason to the discussion. Nt Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #6
It's funny how the ones always screaming Purity Test Emile 22 hrs ago #56
Emile... they don't care about purity tests. mr715 3 hrs ago #97
Platner's not perfect, but there is no such thing as the perfect candidate. He is however, a strong candidate to oppose Fil1957 Yesterday #13
Shockingly, MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #18
Nothing about his comment about Blacks being bad tippers, either. He was 29 years old at the time... QueerDuck Yesterday #22
This is an insightful and important comment to consider. SSJVegeta 23 hrs ago #54
Comments from social media forwarded to me excuse those revolting comments niyad Yesterday #26
or how he laughs at those who call him a liberal. mercuryblues Yesterday #43
of course not Skittles 22 hrs ago #58
Branko thinks he can gaslight people on Graham Platner Quiet Em 22 hrs ago #60
Agree - but that said, it is time accept that he is the Dem nominee RandomNumbers 6 hrs ago #71
I understand or accept that Platner is likely to be the Democratic nominee, he isn't yet, but he is likely Quiet Em 5 hrs ago #75
You don't have to accept or ignore ... but I would ask RandomNumbers 5 hrs ago #76
I absolutely understand the importance of flipping this Maine Senate seat blue Quiet Em 4 hrs ago #79
Agree. MorbidButterflyTat 4 hrs ago #81
Platner is the strong favorite, with one poll showing him leading with 46% support compared to 4% for Costello Emile 4 hrs ago #82
Wait-a-sec... mr715 3 hrs ago #94
Is this your understanding of what I wrote? Quiet Em 2 hrs ago #100
No, we should not. mr715 2 hrs ago #101
How many times do I have to say that I agree he is the likely nominee? Quiet Em 2 hrs ago #104
You are not the person I am taking issue with. mr715 2 hrs ago #105
there is another possibility here. nt msongs Yesterday #19
Jacobin. QueerDuck Yesterday #20
Just got an email from Bernie Sanders. "How did Graham win?" usonian Yesterday #25
There's always someone crafting their edges bucolic_frolic Yesterday #27
Jacobin helped get Trump elected in 2016. johnp3907 Yesterday #29
I don't want swong19104 Yesterday #31
Things are very seldom black/white good/bad. People need to be taken as a whole. Martin Eden Yesterday #33
Everyone needs to remain vigilant about Politicub Yesterday #40
The "VoteBlue no matter who" crowd certainly seems upset by him nt Rob H. Yesterday #47
Hmmm. I wonder if the Totenkopf tattoo has anything to do with it. Or the misogynistic comments, or the ... QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #53
The Five Stages of Graham Sympthsical 14 hrs ago #65
I mean my acceptance started at the passive aggressive and quickly morphed into full fledged support SSJVegeta 14 hrs ago #66
It's kind of interesting to think about Sympthsical 13 hrs ago #67
Well said! SSJVegeta 11 hrs ago #68
The Real Five Stages of Platner MorbidButterflyTat 4 hrs ago #80
If I got a tattoo and didn't know what it meant or what it depicted SidneyR 4 hrs ago #84
Stage 6: Inauguration. mr715 3 hrs ago #92
Do you care more about that than health care for the poor and dying? Sympthsical 3 hrs ago #95
But but but purity tests. mr715 3 hrs ago #96
It's faux purity Sympthsical 2 hrs ago #106
See that is the thing... mr715 1 hr ago #112
"My purity test is no purity tests!!" mr715 3 hrs ago #86
I'll agree his views "don't fit in a box" Skittles 22 hrs ago #57
Has he ever explained why he voted for Susan Collins? Nixie 5 hrs ago #74
Give it up. mr715 3 hrs ago #90
It was posted somewhere here. He thought she was a 'moderate'. RandomNumbers 2 hrs ago #102
Welcome to Maine ThreeNoSeep 2 hrs ago #103
Ayah. eShirl 1 hr ago #111
I'm beginning to think some people would prefer conservative Susan over Platner. We have Emile 5 hrs ago #77
Having Fetterman (D) in the Senate is actually better than having Dr. Oz thought crime 4 hrs ago #85
Yes. mr715 3 hrs ago #88
Simultaneity Quanto Magnus 3 hrs ago #91
Got an email from Senator Wyden yesterday asking me to consider contributing to Platner. Good enough for me. Wyden's KPN 3 hrs ago #98
So somehow I've been out of the loop with this entire topic ecstatic 2 hrs ago #107
Thanks for this. nt LAS14 2 hrs ago #109
You don't gotta like it, but Platner is the Dem nominee duckworth969 2 hrs ago #108
If he were to lose... mr715 54 min ago #113
Wait a young Marine doing something really stupid when they were drunk? gay texan 1 hr ago #110

PatrickforB

(15,497 posts)
1. Platner knows the truth about the robber barons and Wall Street. This is why the POB will oppose
Fri May 1, 2026, 02:51 PM
Yesterday

him in this way all the way to the election. None of the billionaire parasites or Wall Street financiers or right wing think tanks want anyone knowing what Graham knows and talking like Graham does near the Capitol.

It might cut into Wall Street PROFITS, don'tcha know! Can't have that...

magicarpet

(19,136 posts)
55. Jon Stewart with Graham Platner - 1 1/2 hr person to person interview.
Fri May 1, 2026, 06:15 PM
22 hrs ago

The ReThug party will dump major money on this campaign.

Susan Collins is the senior Senator from Maine. She has served six terms,... amounting to 36 years she has warmed that seat.

The GOPee figures if they plow enough money into this race they can keep Collins' head above water and above the fray, and eventually drag her across the finish line again.

Be prepared to see/experience a nasty mud fight. Right-wing pacs will spend a boat load of money to trash and put Graham Platner in the most negative light possible.

Do not fall for the Fascist bullshit,... it wil! be relentless.

Look deep into Graham Platner's background. He is not bidding his various indiscretions or his past. Remember we are human beings none of us are perfect or infallible. Planner walks the walk and talks the talk. It is astounding when you see his super macho man history. But the guy came out of the dark tunnel of his youth and surfaced a true blue honest to goodness progressive liberal. The guy is genuine from the heart. He is so eager to get deeper in the game of politics. He goal is to effect change and bring America to a better place. He has the drive and the gumption to pull it off.

Don't forget he comes with a few flaws,... but to be honest don't we all.

Look in to his background,.. acquaint yourself with who he really is. Look into his youth. Follow him on his growing up phase. His fears... His ambitions,.. His goals. It is all there on the web to see.

Sourced Wikipedia - Platner page,...


Graham Cunningham Platner (born September 1, 1984) is an American oyster farmer and Marine Corps veteran who is a candidate for the Democratic nomination in the 2026 U.S. Senate election in Maine, seeking to challenge incumbent Republican senator Susan Collins.

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Graham Platner

Platner in 2025
Personal details
Born
Graham Cunningham Platner
September 1, 1984 (age 41)
Blue Hill, Maine, US
Party
Democratic
Spouse
Amy Gertner ​ m. 2024)​
Relations
Warren Platner (grandfather)
Education
George Washington University (attended)
Occupation
Oyster farmerharbormaster
Website
Campaign website
Military service
Branch/service
United States Marine Corps
Maryland National Guard
Years of service
2003–2007
2010–2011[1]
Rank
Sergeant[2]
Battles/wars
Iraq War
War in Afghanistan
Graham Platner's voice
Duration: 30 seconds.0:30
Platner criticizing the Democratic Party's corporate donors and backers
Recorded December 20, 2025
After graduating from high school in 2003, Platner enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps and served eight years, including three combat tours in Iraq, later joining the Maryland Army National Guard and deploying to Afghanistan before leaving military service in 2016 and returning to Maine. In 2018, he worked as a State Department security contractor before entering the oyster farming business, taking over a Maine operation in 2020 and later becoming active in local government. He announced his candidacy for the U.S. Senate in 2025.

Graham Platner's Wikipedia page,... link below,....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Platner

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Jon Stewart,... Weekly Show podcast,.. 1 + 1/2 hours of a person to person interview with Graham Platner.


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ShazzieB

(22,796 posts)
72. That interview really impressed me.
Sat May 2, 2026, 10:59 AM
6 hrs ago

Jon Stewart seems really impressed by him, too.

Also, I understand he's been endorsed by both Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. That says a lot, imo.

magicarpet

(19,136 posts)
87. Why Platner NOW.....?
Sat May 2, 2026, 01:07 PM
3 hrs ago

.... need of the common women and men. This is what Senator Sanders and E. Warren recognize in Planner and why they gave him their full endorsement.

We need to breakup the monopolistic powers of the monied classes here in America. Deconstruct the status quo that really only serves the benefits of the monies class. Rocking the boat and making waves is long past due. Off shoring manufacturing decimated the blue collar classes. As did making the unionization of the workforce much more difficult to nearly impossible. The advent of robotic factories and manufacturing will be another blow to blue collar workers while pulling another rug out from under them.

Now comes Artificial Intelligence computer systems and data bases so that computers and machines can do human thinking for them. These Artificial Intelligence platforms will now decimate the professional and white collar workforces leaving many without their well paying jobs to support their families.

The road ahead does not look pleasant for America's white collar, professional collar, upper to lower middle classes, blue collar and upper and lower poorer classes of our citizens. We must rapidly revamp, rebuild, reconstruct, and reconfigure our hyper capitalistic system. At the rapid pace of "advancement" we are going we are rapidly severing and disconnecting large segments of our society from their ability to make their financial ends meet and cover their day to day basic needs.

This will inevitably invite social discord, up risings, and major social strife.
A more aggressive stance to deal with these coming issues would be a very wise course of action to take,... Like PRONTO.

Status quo thinking moved to the back burners of the stove with settings set on low. Progressive & provocative thinking moved to the front burners with the setting set on high full blast. The turmoil hyper capitalism is currently bringing to the lives of American citizenry is not to be trifled with, it is not a parlor joke. It is tearing apart and decimating our society. It is questionable whether or country can endure much more of,.. before something or large groups of citizens upraisings, riot, and/or explode. We must bring experts and caring individuals alike to Washington DC to grapple on to these issues and deliver resolution to these growing and compounding social, cultural, and policy - difficulties.

Americans have proven again and again in the past that they have an astounding ability to collaborate and work together in unison to bring closure to various problems and difficulties that confront us. History is calling, kicking & screaming, cavorting, cajoling, and imploring for us to get our shit together and do so once again.

Will we answer the call,... or will we quickly transfer the call to the ignore section of our messaging system ?

PatrickforB

(15,497 posts)
23. LOL, I'm sorry! That is me being full of you-know-what. I meant powers that be. As in
Fri May 1, 2026, 03:51 PM
Yesterday

the elites who rule the corporate media, Wall Street, the SuperPacs, think tanks like Heritage and Cato, not to mention ALEC. Should have typed 'TPTB' or 'PTB.'

ShazzieB

(22,796 posts)
38. Thanks!
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:33 PM
Yesterday

I did think of that but I see abbreviations that I don't recogbize every day, so I didn't want to assume.

SSJVegeta

(2,983 posts)
2. Also the nazi tattoo thing is misleading
Fri May 1, 2026, 02:52 PM
Yesterday

People who served in the marines in Camp Lejeune know all to well the culture of drunk stupidity and getting a tattoo they know nothing about...

TheProle

(4,040 posts)
5. Do they also know that millions of Americans have had tattoos removed
Fri May 1, 2026, 03:03 PM
Yesterday

and there are hundreds, if not thousands, of locations who can do this?

Fiendish Thingy

(23,777 posts)
7. He's had it covered with a new tattoo.
Fri May 1, 2026, 03:08 PM
Yesterday

In some cases it’s easier and cheaper to do a cover up rather than a removal.

Pete Davidson reportedly spent over $200k getting most of his removed.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,305 posts)
63. Only when it became an election liability
Fri May 1, 2026, 09:47 PM
19 hrs ago

He was perfectly happy to keep it for something like 18 years before that.

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,160 posts)
12. People who served in the Marines knew in 2007 that a totenkopf was an unacceptable tattoo. Platner himself would have
Fri May 1, 2026, 03:16 PM
Yesterday

known it because his tattoos would have been reviewed when he tried to return to active duty in 2009. He could have had it removed but chose to keep it and switch to the National Guard instead.

RetiredParatrooper

(207 posts)
14. Also unauthorized in the NG
Fri May 1, 2026, 03:19 PM
Yesterday

So, no.

Further, being drunk and getting a skull tattoo tracks. Also, knowing what a Totenkopf tattoo actually is and looks like is rather niche knowledge, except among actual Nazis/Neo-Nazis.

If you want to call the man a Nazi, don't beat around the bush.

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,160 posts)
28. Interesting, I was under the impression he had shopped around NG units until he found someone to write a very generous
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:05 PM
Yesterday

waiver. So did he get it in the Guard?

Also, knowing what a Totenkopf tattoo actually is and looks like is rather niche knowledge, except among actual Nazis/Neo-Nazis.
It's not that niche. It's a plot point in of the most popular reaction gifs out there.



If you want to call the man a Nazi, don't beat around the bush.
I've called him a nazi before. I don't think he's an actual nazi. I think he's an utter dumbass, though, and unfit to be a senator.

ShazzieB

(22,796 posts)
35. It does track.
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:29 PM
Yesterday

I am inclined to cut some slack for a tattoo someone got when they were young and drunk. Especially since he had enough sense to get it covered up when he realized it was problematic.

I also agree about the desth's head/Nazi association being omewhat niche knowledge. When I heard he had a Nazi tattoo, I assumed it was a swastika or maybe the SS double lightning bolt runes.

I had to do some research just now to find out exactly what the totenkopf used by Nazis looks like, and one thing I found out is that it's not just a skull, with or without crossbones. It's a very specific rendition of a skull and bones that is distinct in many ways from the kind you might see on a Halloween costume pirate hat. (I won't post a pic here, but anyone who wants to know what it looked like can easily find out by googling .)

If that is what Platner's tattoo originally looked like, I'd say getting it was a pretty big oops, but assuming he knew exactly what it was is a stretch, imo. I'm pretty sure a lot of people would look at it and think "Pirates, arrrrr!" rather than recognizing it as a Nazi symbol. Unfortunately, those who know what a totenkopf is won't be able to unsee the Nazi association, so covering it up was a good idea, imo. Completely removing it would be even better, but that's a lot more expensive as well as time coneuming.

RetiredParatrooper

(207 posts)
49. If he had the SS runes, it would be a different matter
Fri May 1, 2026, 05:18 PM
23 hrs ago

The lightning bolts you mentioned are the 'runes'. The 'before' tattoo does not have them, so it is ambiguous. The 'death's head' badge worn by the German army (Heer) armored troops in WWII was very similar. Thus, yes, it is a niche thing.

SSJVegeta

(2,983 posts)
17. Not really. No. Talk tonsomebody who served in his unit or an adjacent one.
Fri May 1, 2026, 03:30 PM
Yesterday

They dont actually give thorough formal briefings on these things. I served in the Army myself and can attest to that.

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,160 posts)
30. "Talk tonsomebody who served in his unit or an adjacent one." Are there interviews with people he's served with?
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:09 PM
Yesterday

I've looked but haven't seen any. I may have missed them.

SSJVegeta

(2,983 posts)
34. There are plenty enough probably on this site (not necessarily from his unit) but
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:27 PM
Yesterday

People who served in the marines and know the culture enough to be far more credible than you and I. I started an OP to see if they respond: https://democraticunderground.com/100221212750

That being said I do know somebody who served adjacent to his unit at around the same time and knows the culture well. He says it is overwhelmingly common for people to do. That insight in itself has completely transformed how I feel about Platner.

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,160 posts)
39. Oh I didn't mean culture-wise. I'm very familiar with that. I just meant is there was anyone who could vouch for him as
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:41 PM
Yesterday

a person.

SSJVegeta

(2,983 posts)
46. Yeah in that case you are right. Nobody has publicly come out and endorsed him who served in his unit (AFAIK).
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:51 PM
Yesterday

The closest I can find is Ruben Gallego who served adjacent to his unit at the exact same time in 2005 as a Marine. He was one of the first major figures to endorse Platner's Senate campaign.

Eko

(10,040 posts)
62. Shoot,
Fri May 1, 2026, 09:13 PM
19 hrs ago

I had a marine around that time argue with me that a M1 Garand was a machine gun cause that was what the M stood for.

Tree Lady

(13,364 posts)
37. Many years ago in my late 30's I went
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:31 PM
Yesterday

To Vegas with a bunch of people for work, I worked in travel and made reservations at a lot of the hotels there, we went to have tours of them. One night late at night after a lot of drinking we ended up at tattoo parlor middle of night where everyone but me got a tattoo. I took taxi back to hotel, but boy did they pour on the peer pressure and I came closest in my life to getting one.

So I can just imagine marines and the whole macho thing.

SSJVegeta

(2,983 posts)
42. They have a very "work hard play hard" culture -especially the 3/8ths (3rd battallion 8th division)
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:45 PM
Yesterday

But I can also attest from my time in the army that military culture in itself is pretty irresponsible off duty.

There's a reason this weekend safety brief has become a staple of military leaders:


"Don't add to the population. Don't subtract from the population. And stay out of the newspaper, hospital and jail."

Tree Lady

(13,364 posts)
45. Your making me think of lecture
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:50 PM
Yesterday

My daughter just gave my grandson who is going to senior prom tonight in Texas.

She has always been worried if her sons got a girl pregnant Texas would force a baby. So her lecture was on sex and drinking but did say if you drink call me for ride don't care how late.

SSJVegeta

(2,983 posts)
50. Yes.
Fri May 1, 2026, 05:20 PM
23 hrs ago

The reports originating from an anonymous source are that he said those words years later as a joke -before he admitted he knew what it was still, but nonetheless well after he got them.

EdmondDantes_

(1,996 posts)
73. Ah yes the ever funny "I'm a nazi" joke
Sat May 2, 2026, 11:01 AM
6 hrs ago

But in that account he still knew what the tattoo was and didn't get rid of it. I will never understand how that's not a problem to some people. Growth is good, but if it's only done when it's convenient, that's not likely to be growth.

EdmondDantes_

(1,996 posts)
89. Sorry, some principles go above party id
Sat May 2, 2026, 01:13 PM
3 hrs ago

I wasn't good with keeping Swalwell or Franken either.

That nobody can point to anything he's done over the last 20 years that demonstrates he either was never the sort of person who would knowingly get a nazi tattoo or if he used to be that he's changed is hard to ignore for me.

That he blamed women for being raped is hard to ignore for me.

That he used retarded as a slur during the campaign is hard to ignore for me

That he told an antisemitic YouTube host that he's a long time fan is hard to ignore for me.

Obviously your mileage varies and you believe his words today. Maybe I'm a cynic, but I have found actions are required to believe people have fundamentally changed. I haven't seen or heard of his actions demonstrating a change.

AloeVera

(4,349 posts)
61. That's Politico for you.
Fri May 1, 2026, 06:40 PM
22 hrs ago

One anonymous "acquaintance" told this to Jewish Insider but was not willing to go on record due to the "sensitive nature" of the issue. Lol. This acquaintance sure has a sharp memory of what was said during those booze-filled nights by someone who was not even a friend, at a bar, over a decade ago. 'MmmOK.

And Politico ran with this "journalism" without any independent verification.

The knives are out for Platner, clearly.

mr715

(3,971 posts)
93. AloeVera you are always quite sharp
Sat May 2, 2026, 01:42 PM
3 hrs ago

Much sharper than the knives coming out for Platner.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(16,227 posts)
70. My first duty station was at Montford Point, Camp Lejeune.
Sat May 2, 2026, 10:39 AM
6 hrs ago

While I did resist the lure of the tattoo gods, I certainly held up my end of the drunk stupidity thing...........

sop

(19,097 posts)
21. And despite the many complaints, Fetterman's a lot better than having Mehmet Oz in the Senate.
Fri May 1, 2026, 03:47 PM
Yesterday

sop

(19,097 posts)
32. From 'Progressive Punch':
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:12 PM
Yesterday

Warner, King, Shaheen, Hassan and Fetterman have the worst "progressive" voting scores among Democratic senators. Of these five senators, Fetterman is the only one representing a "swing state."

I suspect Fetterman receives so much vitriol from progressive Democrats because he publicly supports Trump on a number of very unpopular issues, and he seems to enjoy doing so. He also ran as a much more progressive candidate, so voters feel betrayed.

https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?house=senate

Ritabert

(2,555 posts)
44. I have a feeling he's worried because his wife was an undocumented migrant from Brazil
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:50 PM
Yesterday

She's a citizen now but who knows?

mr715

(3,971 posts)
115. His brain is pudding.
Sat May 2, 2026, 04:22 PM
43 min ago

And there are stories that his wife is pissed and worried about his statements.

sheshe2

(98,155 posts)
99. Angus King is not a Democrat he is an Independent.
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:10 PM
2 hrs ago

He tends to vote with D's from time to time but he is NOT a Democrat.

mr715

(3,971 posts)
114. This is a question I've had for a while.
Sat May 2, 2026, 04:17 PM
48 min ago

I think it is Dan Osborne who said he would caucus with neither the Democrats nor the Republicans, and be an independent.

What does that mean for votes for leadership?

Do you suspect such an independent would vote, independently, for a Democrat or a Republican and then not be part of the caucus? Or would such a person abstain from voting for leadership in the first place? Or would they, by virtue of their "independence", make a claim for leadership itself?

Then the political question of it is the former, are they not a de facto Democrat a la Bernie Sanders or Angus King?

I would appreciate your learned insight.

sheshe2

(98,155 posts)
116. Here is a chart you might find helpful.
Sat May 2, 2026, 04:59 PM
6 min ago
https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?x=7&y=3&house=senate&party=&sort=crucial-current&order=down

You will see that Sanders votes more often with Dems than King.

I am happy to say that my two Senators are at the top of the list!

As for your question
Then the political question of it is the former, are they not a de facto Democrat a la Bernie Sanders or Angus King?


I would say no; they are not a defacto Democrat otherwise they would run as one for their Senate seat. My guess is they do not wish to be tied to a single party and therefore claim their independence of said title.

mr715

(3,971 posts)
117. But what of votes for leadership?
Sat May 2, 2026, 05:04 PM
1 min ago

Thank you for this chart. It is the type of thing I find very interesting. I love simple hierarchies and lists.

Both Sanders and King caucus with the Democrats, though.

What if an independent was not a member of a caucus? People have explicitly run for election promising to caucus with neither party. Do you think that means they would vote for no leader? Or themselves?

betsuni

(29,211 posts)
11. Like The People, he's flawed, imperfect, passionate. Liberal elites "vilify" The People, "crass and offensive."
Fri May 1, 2026, 03:15 PM
Yesterday

Us vs Them. THEY are lying to you!!!! It is a diabolical conspiracy.

Emile

(42,952 posts)
56. It's funny how the ones always screaming Purity Test
Fri May 1, 2026, 06:20 PM
22 hrs ago

are the ones giving Platner a purity test.

mr715

(3,971 posts)
97. Emile... they don't care about purity tests.
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:03 PM
3 hrs ago

It is a buzzword that is arbitrarily applied to support Democratic leadership when it does something problematic and to undermine populist candidates when they speak to the party.

I am not looking for a prophet. I am looking for a vote for Majority Leader.

Fil1957

(803 posts)
13. Platner's not perfect, but there is no such thing as the perfect candidate. He is however, a strong candidate to oppose
Fri May 1, 2026, 03:18 PM
Yesterday

Concerned Collins. If would be nice if the Democratic establishment would read the room, understand the moment and strongly support him.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,698 posts)
18. Shockingly,
Fri May 1, 2026, 03:33 PM
Yesterday

there's no mention of his posts admonishing women to watch their alcohol consumption or risk getting raped.

Or, probably not shocking at all.

QueerDuck

(1,910 posts)
22. Nothing about his comment about Blacks being bad tippers, either. He was 29 years old at the time...
Fri May 1, 2026, 03:49 PM
Yesterday

... when he posted it. Now that hardly qualifies as an angsty/rebellious teen's words... nor is it a "youthful" indiscreet comment... nor is it or blurting something out in a drunken bullshitting session with friends at the bar. He had time to think and type and know that the words were being published and out there for the world to see. --- Sigh. I'm with Maya Angelou on this... I believe who people are the first time they show me.

SSJVegeta

(2,983 posts)
54. This is an insightful and important comment to consider.
Fri May 1, 2026, 06:05 PM
23 hrs ago

Thank you!

I agree that people should be believed the first time they tell you who they are. But I also believe they can change (not excusing behavior but acknowledging their potential for growth).

I also dont believe this is the first time he told us who he is. He made clear to the world in his announcement that he is a fairly belligerent, bad mouthed no filter Marine veteran with many regrets who still makes mistakes. His reddit comments reflect that he is still capable of making the same mistakes, but also that he has had time to reflect and grow so that his mistakes are more likely to be new and not old. (That being said his views on anti racism as part of this growth and DEI are probably quite important. If you find me anywhere that shows he has recently in the last year tried to popularize himself off anti DEI fervor, I will still support him in my mind for a Democratic Senate but not give a penny to his campaign).

I respect anybody who is legitimately concerned about his behavior, but also know that the current stakes in November are far too high to let that get in the way of us winning the Senate back. I probably would have supported Mills if she didnt drop out, but that ship has sailed.

Thank you again for your very wise words!

niyad

(133,580 posts)
26. Comments from social media forwarded to me excuse those revolting comments
Fri May 1, 2026, 03:58 PM
Yesterday

because he had been a marine, and the comments were "mild". It was sickening.

RandomNumbers

(19,244 posts)
71. Agree - but that said, it is time accept that he is the Dem nominee
Sat May 2, 2026, 10:58 AM
6 hrs ago

I wish Maine Dems would NOT have elevated someone with his troubling flags ... but at this point they DID, and we need him to beat Collins.

Quiet Em

(2,977 posts)
75. I understand or accept that Platner is likely to be the Democratic nominee, he isn't yet, but he is likely
Sat May 2, 2026, 11:29 AM
5 hrs ago

but that doesn't mean I have to accept or ignore all the horrible things he has said and done.

RandomNumbers

(19,244 posts)
76. You don't have to accept or ignore ... but I would ask
Sat May 2, 2026, 11:38 AM
5 hrs ago

that you not amplify them with other people at this time.

If you agree he needs to win the election in November ... please understand that your words can have impacts beyond what you expect or intend.

I saw this play out in a terrible way between Clinton and Sanders in 2016. Maine is one Senate seat but we need every single one we can get this year. Even if the D is an imperfect human being - if he will vote for a Democrat as Senate Majority Leader - we need him.

Quiet Em

(2,977 posts)
79. I absolutely understand the importance of flipping this Maine Senate seat blue
Sat May 2, 2026, 12:10 PM
4 hrs ago

Maine is one of the two Senate seats we are most likely to flip. And I do get that Planter is more likely to vote correctly on all of the important legislation than the current occupant of the seat. The current occupant of that seat is also offensive, and she has done incredible harm and is completely unacceptable.

I don't plan to start threads here about Graham Platner, or actively campaign against him. Many Maine voters seem willing to look past his history, their prerogative to do so, but nobody was lied to. He is who he is.

But the voters get the final say and they haven't voted yet. Yes, Platner is very likely to win. But there are other Democrats on the ballot, David Costello is one. Look at the California Governor primary. I doubt there are many who would have told you that Xavier Becerra would be current favorite in the polls if you asked them a month ago. The primary is little over one month away. We should respect it and let it play out.

Emile

(42,952 posts)
82. Platner is the strong favorite, with one poll showing him leading with 46% support compared to 4% for Costello
Sat May 2, 2026, 12:25 PM
4 hrs ago

among likely voters.

It's time to get behind the leading democratic candidate, and stop tearing him down. This seat is too important to screw up.

mr715

(3,971 posts)
94. Wait-a-sec...
Sat May 2, 2026, 01:48 PM
3 hrs ago

The primary isn't over.

Surely there is some way for Janet Mills to win. After all, the primary isn't over.

I mean if Costello throws his support to Janet Mills... and then finds 10 others to do it, they'll have 44%.

Then, all they need to do is find 2%! Then, they are within striking distance!

I mean, after all, the primary isn't over.

THE PRIMARY ISN'T OVER!!!!!

Come on, Mainers. Figure out a way to overcome the tyranny of math.

Maybe if we throw around the term "purity test" a few times we can bend the laws of reality to undermind the will of Maine democrats.

After all, we wouldn't want to look like fools on this forum.

Quiet Em

(2,977 posts)
100. Is this your understanding of what I wrote?
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:11 PM
2 hrs ago

Go ahead and write a letter to Maine and tell them to cancel the primary if that's how you feel.

Go ahead and tell the Maine voters their primary is over so there's no sense in voting.

Go ahead, I'm sure nobody will think you are foolish for suggesting this.


Graham Platner is very likely to be the Democratic nominee. You should not fear Maine voters participating in their primary election.


mr715

(3,971 posts)
101. No, we should not.
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:14 PM
2 hrs ago

However, it appears that every elected Democrat is falling in line behind Platner.

The cope from some on this forum that he isn't going to be the nominee is absurd.

Primaries are good. We should have them.

When Platner wins 80% of the vote, will that make a difference to his detrators?

Quiet Em

(2,977 posts)
104. How many times do I have to say that I agree he is the likely nominee?
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:19 PM
2 hrs ago

I've been quite clear about that in this thread. Why that isn't good enough for you, I don't know.

mr715

(3,971 posts)
105. You are not the person I am taking issue with.
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:21 PM
2 hrs ago

You are not clutching your pearls and attempting to make me feel like a bad Democrat.

usonian

(26,234 posts)
25. Just got an email from Bernie Sanders. "How did Graham win?"
Fri May 1, 2026, 03:55 PM
Yesterday

Short version:

Graham Platner won because his campaign was centered on taking on oligarchy and fighting for the working people of Maine and the U.S.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221212664

Maybe people will wake up to the root cause of the world's woes .... the insane concentration of wealth among "The Epstein Class" of pigs.

Until then, there are high prices, a war that FartMan said he would never start, and so on.





Keep it simple!

bucolic_frolic

(55,593 posts)
27. There's always someone crafting their edges
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:04 PM
Yesterday

Trouble is you have to sort the messaging and discover who and what's behind it.

johnp3907

(4,328 posts)
29. Jacobin helped get Trump elected in 2016.
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:08 PM
Yesterday

I canceled my subscription back then. They’re dead to me.

swong19104

(646 posts)
31. I don't want
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:12 PM
Yesterday

Someone I can have a beer with. I don’t want someone I can relate to. I don’t want someone who is charming, warm, friendly, whatever. I want someone who is learned, both academically and with resl-life experiences. Someone who isn’t bought and paid for, and will never be. Someone who sees the bug picture and understands how all living beings have their “place in the choir”.

Martin Eden

(15,810 posts)
33. Things are very seldom black/white good/bad. People need to be taken as a whole.
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:13 PM
Yesterday

Snippets without the broader context can paint a misleading picture.

Is he a fake, when comparing his rhetoric now to the totality of his previous writings?

Of course a candidate for office has to think carefully about what he says, but that applies to every single candidate ever, especially in this modern media era.

In any event, barring some huge unforseen development, Plantner will be the Democratic nominee.

We NEED that Senate seat.

Politicub

(12,335 posts)
40. Everyone needs to remain vigilant about
Fri May 1, 2026, 04:44 PM
Yesterday

the army of paid trolls and bad actors who seek to divide Democrats (all Americans really).

THe’s an imperfect person as we are all. If we won’t settle for less than perfection, we’re already fucked.

This is for everyone: Support Democrats up and down the ticket. Tune out the noise. And if you haven’t done so already, read the first half of the Mueller Report. It details how online groups were infiltrated and manipulated. There’s a reason why the republicans wanted to sink the report, and it didn’t have to do with “collusion.”

QueerDuck

(1,910 posts)
53. Hmmm. I wonder if the Totenkopf tattoo has anything to do with it. Or the misogynistic comments, or the ...
Fri May 1, 2026, 05:27 PM
23 hrs ago

... blacks are bad tippers comments, or as recently as last month, using the R-word. I think that people are perfectly justified in being "upset" (your word) with him.

Thankfully, I've seen nobody in the "vote blue no matter who crowd" (again, your words) go so far as to advocate that people not-vote, or "leave it blank" or to vote "uncommitted"... so why would anyone take issue with, or make passive aggressive comments about a certain "crowd" having standards and expressing their disappointment and doubts.

Sympthsical

(11,070 posts)
65. The Five Stages of Graham
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:12 AM
14 hrs ago

Denial: "No way he can win."

Anger: *gestures around*

Bargaining: "There are still other Democrats in the race!"

Depression: "Voters are poopyheads."

Acceptance: *passive aggressive comments for eternity - literally sometimes lasting over ten years*

SSJVegeta

(2,983 posts)
66. I mean my acceptance started at the passive aggressive and quickly morphed into full fledged support
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:28 AM
14 hrs ago

Sympthsical

(11,070 posts)
67. It's kind of interesting to think about
Sat May 2, 2026, 03:33 AM
13 hrs ago

Because, as we get younger politicians from Millennials on down, we're going to have to start contending with the reality of social media histories. As a Xennial, I just barely edged out having my entire teens and 20s documented online. If anyone found my Reddit name right now, it is the most boring shit on earth, because I've been old enough to know better. If I don't want my boss to see it, it probably shouldn't be online.

People think it's 2014 for some reason. "Can you believe he said this thing in the past?"

Yeah. But, I dunno. I don't care. Voters don't care. Twitter isn't real life.

It just feels ancillary. "He had a bad tattoo!" Ok. Entrenched politicans have been skimming the system for decades. But that's fine. It's the tattoo I should get really worked about?

I just don't that much. It's not great. Platner's not my first pick. But when considering moral weight, the powerful have so much worse on their end of the scale that I'm not going to pretend to take a moral high ground. "Sure I support people who hire everyone and their uncle into nepotistic positions at tech companies, AI, and crypto while I take their donations and write legislation they can easily exploit. But have you seen the tattoo?"

People need to get real about some of this. Bad words, bad thoughts, dumb behavior vs. generational damage to the People.

I know which one I care about more.

SSJVegeta

(2,983 posts)
68. Well said!
Sat May 2, 2026, 05:08 AM
11 hrs ago

And 100% agree.

And at this point he may be the difference between a democratic senate majority and pure fucking evil taking complete hold.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,698 posts)
80. The Real Five Stages of Platner
Sat May 2, 2026, 12:19 PM
4 hrs ago
1. He got a Nazi symbol tattooed on his chest.

"He was young! And drunk! And in the military!"

2. He kept it for 18 years.

"He didn't know what it was!"

3. He's made racist comments.

"A long time ago!"

4. He made derogatory comment about mentally challenged people.

"Nobody's perfect!"

5. He said women should take responsibility for their rapes.

"Meh."

Then the scold: "Stop tearing him down with his own words and actions!"

SidneyR

(226 posts)
84. If I got a tattoo and didn't know what it meant or what it depicted
Sat May 2, 2026, 12:32 PM
4 hrs ago

I would f'n look it up. Call me crazy, but I'd be a bit curious.

Sympthsical

(11,070 posts)
95. Do you care more about that than health care for the poor and dying?
Sat May 2, 2026, 01:49 PM
3 hrs ago

We have choices here. Not great ones, but there they are.

At the end of the day, which is worse in your world?

Do you want change or the same old shit?

Is someone who will keep the current system in place measurably better than a flawed person who sees it needs to change?

How many lives are worth outrage? How much change should be sacrificed for virtue?

The man hasn't committed any crimes near as I can tell.

And I'll just note without emphasis how many of the same people supercharged banging tables about Platner went to the mat for Swalwell right up to the point of it being virtually impossible to do so.

I'm just over this pretense. Completely.

Sympthsical

(11,070 posts)
106. It's faux purity
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:35 PM
2 hrs ago

It's a purity of convenience. Invoked when useful, discarded when the true goals are being met.

I'm just so over it. I'll take someone with reform potential who's said shitty things over the entrenched incrementalists who don't mind if brown kids go to bed hungry if it means they get more donations and guaranteed re-election.

Every time. Not even a contest.

Honestly, not even a conversation at this point.

The performative is going to be the death of this party, I swear. Politics - where the policies are nice, but the splenetic is core.

mr715

(3,971 posts)
112. See that is the thing...
Sat May 2, 2026, 04:00 PM
1 hr ago

It isn't purity. Its bias.

It is football.

My person isn't winning and the narrative has shifted, so we're gonna punt and call it a purity test. Wah wah wah.

I don't need purity, I need outcomes.

I don't want a messiah. I don't care if it is Hillary Rodham Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, or Barack Obama. I want outcomes. I want my representatives to advocate for policies in line with my ideology and my vision for governance.

I don't care what they say behind the scenes. I don't care if they believe in their heart of hearts what they say with their mouth of mouths. As long as they commit no crimes, abuse no one, and demonstrate basic humanity, they are nothing more than vehicles for policy outcomes.

I care that I get to be a part of a party that has an agenda that stops murder by Federal agents, that feeds kids in poverty, that protects the right for a woman to get an abortion (no hedging), that says the cancer in our politics is money, and that acknowledges genocide.

I also like being part of a party that is willing to embrace reality and not meekly look backward, in the hopes that some politics from a bygone era has returned from the dead and is catching up with the times.

There are those on this forum that assert that the desire for Democrats to be more forward thinking is a purity test, but when the electorate of a state demonstrate this point, all of a sudden it is perfectly fine to call into question the motivates of someone running under our banner.

It is immensely frustrating to read here the swarm and eye-rolling condescension when we are on the cusp of victory and we are browbeat into denying that a victory is, in fact, just a priori betrayal.

TL,DR - Demanding action from leadership isn't a purity test. Refusing to support a Democrat because of 'vibes' is.

mr715

(3,971 posts)
86. "My purity test is no purity tests!!"
Sat May 2, 2026, 01:06 PM
3 hrs ago

But he didn't win yet.

But he's a misogynist, much worse than my man Swalwall.

Oh God he took off his shirt.

Oh God he beat a qualified woman that didn't want the job.

Oh no, I've clutched my pearls so much the clasp broke.

Nixie

(18,063 posts)
74. Has he ever explained why he voted for Susan Collins?
Sat May 2, 2026, 11:13 AM
5 hrs ago

I haven’t listened to all his statements, but that would be my question.

RandomNumbers

(19,244 posts)
102. It was posted somewhere here. He thought she was a 'moderate'.
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:15 PM
2 hrs ago

He has since decided she's not, she's too conservative, not good for the people of Maine.

I am not in Maine and if I were in Maine he would not be my first choice. Even now, if I were voting in that primary - which will be by ranked choice voting - I would probably not rank him first. Over and above all the 'red flags' people have raised - he thought Collins was a moderate and that made her okay?

But I would a thousand times prefer Platner over returning Collins to the Senate.

Odds are extremely high that he will be the nominee. I think it's time to stop amplifying anything divisive he's done in the past (and I'm definitely not okay with certain comments he made, even more than the stupid drunk tattoo) - and talk about why he is better for Maine than Susan Collins. That said, if someone wants to REALLY see someone else win the primary - where are the posts about how great that Dem primary opponent is?

ThreeNoSeep

(318 posts)
103. Welcome to Maine
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:16 PM
2 hrs ago

Anyone who knows Maine knows that (until the last ten years or so) it's neighbors in your dooryard over parties in Augusta. A lot, and I mean a lot, of Mainers would vote for Collins and Snowe because in their early years, those two delivered for the people of this state. When the Pukes started going overt fascist was when Snowe dropped out of politics and Collins finally revealed herself as the weak sauce "moderate" we've come to know.
Questionable sources are driving this pearl clutching and demands for answers that can never satisfy you. I've seen well known members of DU pass along right wing talking points and far right disinformation links to paint Platner negatively.
I've seen him talk in-person, and he will be fine.
We need to stop carrying water for the GOP.

Emile

(42,952 posts)
77. I'm beginning to think some people would prefer conservative Susan over Platner. We have
Sat May 2, 2026, 11:49 AM
5 hrs ago

a real shot of getting rid of Collins, I hate to see us blow it. It's time to get behind the democratic candidate, and stop tearing him down.

thought crime

(1,745 posts)
85. Having Fetterman (D) in the Senate is actually better than having Dr. Oz
Sat May 2, 2026, 12:55 PM
4 hrs ago

Every Senator with a 'D' next to their name gets Democrats closer to majority status.

Quanto Magnus

(1,366 posts)
91. Simultaneity
Sat May 2, 2026, 01:32 PM
3 hrs ago

"This is, in fact, exactly what seems to be happening in the media coverage of his posts, in which Platner is simultaneously portrayed as both a bigoted, far-right reactionary, and a dangerous left-wing radical."

This is how the Guardians of Pedophiles have described those on the left for a long time. Just like the 'Fascist Communist' label.

KPN

(17,481 posts)
98. Got an email from Senator Wyden yesterday asking me to consider contributing to Platner. Good enough for me. Wyden's
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:03 PM
3 hrs ago

been a great Senator as is Jeff Merkley, Oregon's other. I'm very lucky to have the two of them ... and more than happy to contribute to Platner if either of them support him. His election will be an improvement for Maine and good for America overall.

ecstatic

(35,128 posts)
107. So somehow I've been out of the loop with this entire topic
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:39 PM
2 hrs ago

My attempt to learn:

can you briefly summarize the controversy with Graham Platner within the Democratic party

Graham Platner, a 2026 Maine Democratic Senate candidate, faced significant controversy over past inflammatory Reddit posts and a Nazi-linked tattoo. While leading in polls and pushing a progressive, working-class platform that forced establishment candidates like Janet Mills to drop out, his past, including mocking sexual assault and denigrating police, created severe electability concerns for party leaders.

He has since apologized and secured the nomination, but his history continues to cause concern.


How did he mock sexual assault?

Platner’s mockery of sexual assault primarily involved victim-blaming comments and dismissiveness toward military reporting in a series of 2013 Reddit posts.

His most controversial statements include:

* Blaming Alcohol Consumption: In response to a thread about "anti-rape" shorts, Platner suggested victims should "take some responsibility for themselves" and not get so intoxicated that they "wind up having sex with someone they don't mean to".

* Dismissing Military Reporting Challenges: Platner downplayed the difficulty of reporting sexual assault in the military, calling anyone who believed the military purposefully covered up rape "an idiot".

* Use of Slurs: When another user suggested that units could easily "skirt" investigations, Platner responded by asking if they were "retarded" or "somewhat challenged".

* Skepticism of Systemic Issues: He characterized widespread concerns about military sexual assault as being fueled by people who "once watched 'Invisible War'" (a 2012 documentary on the subject) rather than reality.


How did he denigrate police?

Graham Platner’s denigration of police centered on aggressive social media rhetoric, most notably the use of the "ACAB" (All Cops Are Bastards) slogan and direct insults toward law enforcement leadership.

Specific Controversial Statements:

* "All of them in fact": In a 2021 Reddit thread discussing police misconduct and systemic corruption following the 2020 murder of George Floyd, a user posted "Bastards. Cops are bastards." Platner responded with, "All of them, in fact".

* "F—k these cops": He used this phrase in separate threads to express frustration with police violence.

* "Thin blue line trash": Platner criticized a police chief's attitude during a public event, labeling the officer's behavior as an example of "thin blue line trash".


Final question that I was cut off in the middle of asking but the AI knew where I was headed....?

Is there any current evidence linking him to...

There is no known evidence linking Graham Platner to extremist or white supremacist groups today. Recent investigations and reports confirm that while his past remains a central point of political attack, he has actively worked to distance himself from those symbols and ideologies.

## Current Evidence & Recent Events (2025–2026)
The controversy remains "current" due to ongoing political campaigns, but the evidence focuses on his past rather than current affiliations:

* Tattoo Removal/Cover-up: In October 2025, Platner publicly covered the "Totenkopf" tattoo with a new design of a Celtic knot and dogs.

* KFile Investigation (2025): A CNN KFile report uncovered deleted posts and an interview with an acquaintance suggesting Platner may have been aware of the symbol's controversial nature in military circles earlier than he claimed. However, this investigation highlighted past defensive comments rather than any current membership in extremist groups.

* Primary Victory (May 2026): As of late April 2026, Governor Janet Mills suspended her Senate campaign, effectively making Platner the Democratic nominee. This suggests that while leadership was initially wary, they are now coalescing around him for the general election.

## Endorsements and Defenses
* Bernie Sanders & Elizabeth Warren: Both Senators Sanders and Warren have maintained their endorsements, with Warren stating she believes his apologies are sincere and reflect personal growth.

* Chris Van Hollen: The Maryland Senator defended Platner as a veteran who struggled with PTSD but has since "learned from his mistakes".


So based on that information, I see some contradictions in his character. On one hand, there's definitely an authoritarian mindset when it comes to the military sexual assault issue. His comments lacked compassion for women and automatically took the side of the institution. The comments about personal responsibility will probably resonate with a large percentage of the population, but both sentiments can be true: that the military systematically covered up or helped rapists and that some of the situations were avoidable.

However, his authoritarian mindset seems to slip away when it comes to the police - it seems he's able to clearly see and acknowledge the problems within that institution without qualifiers.

So this discrepancy could indicate a little bit (or a lot) of sexism or a lack of empathy with regard to others who face institutional oppression that he hasn't personally dealt with.

In my opinion, his mindset is more associated with conservative / republicans, so it does make me wonder why he's running as a Democrat. Is the republican machine so heavily invested in Collins, perhaps due to the purple nature of the state, that he didn't see a way in?

However, his endorsements from Bernie and E Warren are telling, as they both have personalities that are slightly outside of the personality types typically associated with our party. I really didn't like Warren in the beginning but then during tRump's first presidency, she came to the forefront as a leader and I was able to see how those characteristics play out when we're at war. She's a fighter! We are many things, I believe we are the smarter group, but a lot of times the fight just isn't there due to our wiring.

I don't live in Maine, but at this point, our hands are a little tied. He is the nominee, and he might bring the type of change that we need at a time like this. I say, vote for him because Collins is clearly compromised and we know that. Platner is the unknown, obviously. Hopefully, he's not worse. I guess we'll have to see.

duckworth969

(1,397 posts)
108. You don't gotta like it, but Platner is the Dem nominee
Sat May 2, 2026, 02:43 PM
2 hrs ago

Talking smack about him does NOTHING for a win for us.

Start a write-in if him being the candidate displeases you.

But raising the negative same-o same-o points does nothing except allow you to rant.

If losing is important to you, by all means keep shooting yourself in the foot.

mr715

(3,971 posts)
113. If he were to lose...
Sat May 2, 2026, 04:11 PM
54 min ago

Then we'd get to validate the idea that running a people-based campaign with bold, transformative rhetoric is DOA

We should've gone with the candidate the Schumer had to twist arm into the race and accept her low energy, uninspired, complacent, incrementalist, campaign-via-Zoom that was the alternative.

If we win, Platner is a priori a plant, a nascent Fetterman, a racist, ableist, misogynist.

If we lose, it was because of those pesky voters couldn't handle an a priori plant, a nascent Fetterman, a racist, ableist, misogynist.


I prefer a third option, where we WIN this election and judge Mr. Graham Platner on his virtues and sins as a Senator. His (virtual) victory in the primary is his baptism. He is without political sin vs. Susan Collins.

That does not mean do not criticize. If he does something shitty, call him out. But for the love of all that is holy, stop litigating the past. It didn't work. Maybe his gross positions are part of his appeal and we should make peace with it, as long as he votes to cut billionaires off at the knees.

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I had no idea things like this ever occurred?????? I'm shocked, shocked i tells ya!


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