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wnylib

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10. Now that speech is a really good one.

Reply to 3Hotdogs (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 21, 2026, 10:33 AM

16 hrs ago

I have read it. It is an excellent, logically laid out comparison of values and beliefs that puts Nat8ve religion on an equal footing with Christianity. It was his response to missionaries who sought permission to proselytize among the Seneca people.

Red Jacket was a great orator. That speech could be summarized by a message in the Christian Bible, "By their fruits you will know them." He ends the speech with the comment that they will observe the White missionaries to see how they live before giving an answer to their request.

(One of my grandmother's Seneca ancestors was related to Red Jacket.)

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;-{)...... Goonch Friday #1

Nice, but unlikely he used the name, United States in the 1700's. Possible, but not likely. 3Hotdogs Friday #2

Poetic license. ColoringFool Friday #3

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Now that speech is a really good one. wnylib 16 hrs ago #10

Or totally made up story. wnylib 17 hrs ago #9

An extraordinary example of that, book written about 1970. "The Education of Little Tree." 3Hotdogs 9 hrs ago #12

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