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Nevilledog

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Sun Feb 8, 2026, 06:27 PM Yesterday

Why is MAGA so hateful? (best concise explanation I've seen) [View all]

Why is MAGA so hateful?

I get asked this a lot. The short answer is: because hate is the point. But let me break it down.

Grievance as identity

MAGA isn't a political movement built on policy. It's built on resentment. The core message has always been "you've been wronged" — by elites, by immigrants, by cities, by universities, by the media, by women, by minorities, by anyone who isn't you.

This isn't a coalition that comes together to BUILD something. It comes together to tear things down. Hate isn't a byproduct of the movement. It's the fuel.

Zero-sum thinking

They genuinely believe that if someone else gains, they lose. Rights for gay people? That's an attack on Christians. Immigrants succeeding? They must be stealing from "real Americans." A Black president? He must be illegitimate.

There's no concept of shared prosperity or expanding opportunity. Just winners and losers. And they're terrified of losing.

The dominance hierarchy

A lot of MAGA is rooted in evangelical and authoritarian psychology. There's supposed to be a natural order: white at the top, Christian at the top, male at the top, straight at the top.

When you've been at the top of a hierarchy your whole life, equality feels like oppression. Giving others a seat at the table feels like theft.

The media ecosystem

Fox News → OANN → Newsmax → podcasts → Twitter/X. It's a 24/7 rage machine. Every algorithm rewards outrage. Every host competes to be more extreme than the last.

These people are literally addicted to anger. Neurologically. They get dopamine hits from feeling righteous fury. They wake up and immediately check their phones to find out what they should be mad about today.

Turn it off for a week and they go through withdrawal.

Economic anxiety — weaponized

Here's the thing: a lot of the underlying pain is real. Deindustrialization gutted their towns. Opioids killed their families. Wages stagnated while costs exploded. The American Dream stopped working for them.

But instead of blaming the corporations that shipped jobs overseas, or the billionaires that rigged the economy, or the politicians that deregulated everything — they're taught to blame immigrants. To blame welfare recipients. To blame Black people in cities. To blame trans kids.

Classic fascist playbook: take legitimate economic anger and redirect it at the vulnerable.

The permission structure

Trump didn't create the hate. He just gave it permission.

For decades, these people were told to keep the quiet part quiet. Be polite. Use dog whistles. Then Trump came along and said the loud part loud — and nothing happened. No consequences.

He showed them they could be openly racist, openly cruel, openly contemptuous of democracy — and not only survive, but win.

"He fights" doesn't mean he fights for them. It means he's mean to people they don't like. The cruelty is the point.

Community built on enemies

This is the part people miss: MAGA is a community. For a lot of these people — especially older, rural, isolated Americans — it's their entire social world. Their friends are MAGA. Their family is MAGA. Their church is MAGA.

The hate is the membership card. The shared enemies are what bind them together. Leaving the movement doesn't just mean changing your politics. It means losing everyone you know.

So they double down. And double down again. Because the alternative is being alone.

The bottom line

Why is MAGA so hateful?

Because scared people + relentless propaganda + permission to be cruel + community built on shared enemies = hate as a lifestyle.

They're not going to be reasoned out of it. They weren't reasoned into it.

The only thing that works is making it socially and politically costly to be part of it. Outvoting them. Out-organizing them. And building something better that gives people a different place to belong.


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One important thing to understand about this analysis: RockRaven Yesterday #1
Or.....they will turn en masse whilst claiming they never supported Trump. Nevilledog Yesterday #2
Either way--we blow past them. pandr32 9 hrs ago #40
Not the Maga racist types. But the "undecided" voter types JI7 2 hrs ago #64
Exactly. progressoid Yesterday #3
But they're still a minority. The true believers. paleotn Yesterday #12
The worst thing about the internet/social media is that it gives the assholes ways to find each other. Intractable Yesterday #25
Good point. pandr32 9 hrs ago #42
In 2016 as I saw all of the reptiles coming out from under their rocks, yellow dahlia 7 hrs ago #50
maga hate anti-repub 10 hrs ago #35
maga hate anti-repub 9 hrs ago #36
And they'll get louder and more extreme as they shrink as a demographic going foward. Lanius 8 hrs ago #47
There isn't another Trump. Chemical Bill 6 hrs ago #56
This part is important: progressoid Yesterday #4
There's some people here that need to wake up and smell the coffee as well. durablend Yesterday #7
Collective Trauma response... purr-rat beauty Yesterday #5
The entire Trump/Miller doctrine is... lame54 Yesterday #6
Most were raised by bigoted people Johonny Yesterday #8
Doc Holliday had the answer AverageOldGuy Yesterday #9
I have a maga brother in law and he fits the descriptions to a tee kimbutgar Yesterday #10
It's just so terribly sad. Our culture, our civilization leaves so many damaged like h hedda_foil 22 hrs ago #30
This Helps Me To Understand WiVoter Yesterday #11
There is a Michael Wolff thread floating around here about Uncle Joe Yesterday #13
Trump is extraordinarily unusual markodochartaigh Yesterday #20
Curiosity of the rest of the world AverageOldGuy Yesterday #24
George W Bush was another who was exceedingly un-curious Seinan Sensei 8 hrs ago #48
The grifter's family had money that was made form nefarious and seedy means. yellow dahlia 7 hrs ago #51
Sure, he was shunned by old money, the intellegentsia, and probably markodochartaigh 7 hrs ago #54
I wonder about the definition of "class". Chemical Bill 6 hrs ago #55
The Grifter is a Frankenstein's monster. He doesn't actually belong to any class, yellow dahlia 5 hrs ago #58
raised ... justsomeguy01 5 hrs ago #59
I was just talking about this, They wake up to hate MagickMuffin Yesterday #14
The MAGA movement, Q Anon,Tea Party, racists and masoginists and the religious right Buddyzbuddy Yesterday #15
If Faux Noise had flopped back in the 1990's, there would be no others FakeNoose Yesterday #16
Limbaugh was the nexus of it all kwolf68 11 hrs ago #32
Limbaugh, Gingrich, McConnell, Nixon, Reagan, W - no movement consists of one person, no matter how dysfunctional Martin68 9 hrs ago #38
Agreed. yellow dahlia 7 hrs ago #53
Excellent. Thanks for posting. LoisB Yesterday #17
A pretty good synopsis of what B.See Yesterday #18
Spot on. Permanut Yesterday #19
ChatGPT writes well. ThreeNoSeep Yesterday #21
I wonder how a prompt from opposite-world would turn out. hunter 4 hrs ago #60
The Religiously Insane are a part of it. They are not resentful as much as they are in the thrall of a religion that CTyankee Yesterday #22
MAGA is like the logo for Disaster Capitalism SleeplessinSoCal Yesterday #23
Because hate is one of the most powerful emotions and hate sells. c-rational Yesterday #26
excellent post proud patriot Yesterday #27
In a word: compensation RainCaster Yesterday #28
Yes. "...if someone else gains, they lose." Grins 23 hrs ago #29
The triangulation of hate, greed and fear. Marcuse 11 hrs ago #31
Excellent summary of MAGA. debm55 10 hrs ago #33
This captures a lot of dynamics I've struggled to put into words myself. Torchlight 10 hrs ago #34
this the best and most complete analysis I've seen. I agree 100%. Martin68 9 hrs ago #37
Brilliantly written! Thanks for pointing it. CaptainTruth 9 hrs ago #39
45 years of brainwashing propaganda brought us here. Initech 9 hrs ago #41
Thank u-saving 2 read-why mag so hateful Upthevibe 9 hrs ago #43
Exactly MW67 9 hrs ago #44
MAGA Fuel gfarber 8 hrs ago #45
Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man. Thomas Paine Ping Tung 8 hrs ago #46
Excellent summary Wild blueberry 7 hrs ago #49
Disagree. MAGA are the unwitting tools of Billionaires rigging everything bucolic_frolic 7 hrs ago #52
Short version: They hate because it is the only thing they can do with their terrible fear. n/t TygrBright 6 hrs ago #57
Their friends are MAGA. Their family is MAGA. Their church is MAGA. Glaisne 3 hrs ago #61
I can answer that more concisely: WestMichRad 3 hrs ago #62
Great breakdown. Thank you for posting mjvpi 3 hrs ago #63
If they can't have it they want to burn it down. North Coast Lawyer 2 hrs ago #65
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