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mopinko

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20. personally, i understood it.

Wed Feb 4, 2026, 11:15 PM

14 hrs ago

it was just too short. but saying ‘reform’ doesnt work, cuz that’s been tried over and over and over, and nobody buys that any more.
defund doesnt mean abolish. it means take away their spendy toys, and send other professionals to do the shit cops dont want to do anyway. i never cd come up w a pithy way to say that, tho. i’m usually pretty good at that. explaining complex things to idiots may b impossible in this enshittified age.

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The Schumer/Jeffries Softening On Masks [View all] gab13by13 15 hrs ago OP

This isn't even a negotiation leftstreet 15 hrs ago #1

Here's the deal, gab13by13 14 hrs ago #6

i think a lot more ppl r sick of the 'moderates' than the 'radicals'. mopinko 14 hrs ago #13

You couldn't be more right FoxNewsSucks 14 hrs ago #32

I think Dante's lowest circle of hell is for moderates. ananda 13 hrs ago #36

Moderates are the people pushing Bettie 4 hrs ago #57

Overton Window ananda 4 hrs ago #60

Yep, what is currently called "the far left" Bettie 4 hrs ago #61

Would they? Cirsium 12 hrs ago #42

Consider that the Republicans could correctly argue both Obama and Biden used ICE karynnj 35 min ago #67

Here in farm country Cirsium 12 min ago #68

Said "pummeling" certainly would have been the case a year ago, now "abolish ICE" seems the sane, moderate position 0rganism 9 hrs ago #50

Exactly Cirsium 12 hrs ago #41

I'd start with dismantling DHS tishaLA 12 hrs ago #44

K&R spanone 15 hrs ago #2

We should be saying, "You guarantee there'll be no more murders, kidnappings, illegal entries, Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #3

Democrats should have Congressional Magats by the short hairs. gab13by13 14 hrs ago #12

Me too. Again. Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #15

no masks wear a badge creon 15 hrs ago #4

Some of their uniforms only say POLICE, gab13by13 14 hrs ago #8

that is wrong creon 4 hrs ago #56

Who is giving them such horrible advice? Chasstev365 15 hrs ago #5

I don't want any softening on this. Takket 14 hrs ago #7

dumb ass david axelrod is warning mopinko 14 hrs ago #9

F Axelrod. We don't need ICE like we need a police force. mzmolly 14 hrs ago #11

personally, i understood it. mopinko 14 hrs ago #20

I understood it, too. But it had to be explained as you note. mzmolly 14 hrs ago #23

The Democrats are using the same playbook AZProgressive 14 hrs ago #27

And at the same time, Steve Bannon is saying ICE mzmolly 14 hrs ago #28

It's OK for protesters to hold up signs that say Abolish ICE gab13by13 14 hrs ago #19

Good plan!! mzmolly 14 hrs ago #30

I agree with your take on this thread AZJonnie 10 hrs ago #48

Effn weak leadership vapor2 14 hrs ago #10

The article that started the hysteria that led to more Democratic bashing *literally* included Murphy. W_HAMILTON 14 hrs ago #14

I'm waving my ABOLISH SCHUMER protest sign in front of the computer, muttering personal insults at Democrats, betsuni 12 hrs ago #39

Yeah, I asked WHY The OP in That Thread Left OUT THIS PART? Cha 12 hrs ago #47

K&R red dog 1 14 hrs ago #16

Elect more moderates this year so we can have more of this! DJ Synikus Makisimus 14 hrs ago #17

I absolutely hate this EnergizedLib 14 hrs ago #18

Yeah, and I'm so sick of my vote being taken for granted. FoxNewsSucks 13 hrs ago #33

The so-called leadership is worse than useless. dalton99a 12 hrs ago #40

OUT WITH THE SECRET POLICE PARAMILITARY GARB. usonian 14 hrs ago #21

Masks are used to TERRORIZE. no masks!!! IcyPeas 14 hrs ago #22

I'm unsure I agree with the headlines on this. mzmolly 14 hrs ago #24

There is no "softening on masks". FascismIsDeath 14 hrs ago #25

I think the masks are unfortunately necessary gulliver 14 hrs ago #26

Why should ICE be permitted masks thucythucy 14 hrs ago #31

They are being targeted in an organized way gulliver 13 hrs ago #35

Law enforcement has always been a relatively risky profession. thucythucy 13 hrs ago #37

But we have "law enforcement" using cheap IT to track and attack citizens. THAT is where the law is breaking down. Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #58

WTF?????????????? FoxNewsSucks 13 hrs ago #34

No. 0rganism 9 hrs ago #51

You're actually defending ICE masks? aocommunalpunch 8 hrs ago #55

Yup. Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #59

The police do not wear masks pinkstarburst 3 hrs ago #64

It's a very difficult problem gulliver 2 hrs ago #65

How about we also demand, before any money is approved, thucythucy 14 hrs ago #29

Real negotiations would start with disarming ICEholes Hassler 13 hrs ago #38

Also getting to dress up in their cosplay "Tactical" costumes that they bought with the money AZJonnie 10 hrs ago #49

Damn Cirsium 12 hrs ago #43

trump is wasting huge amounts of tax payer money for his own powerr and enjoyment. C Moon 12 hrs ago #45

I can't believe that people are discussing negotiating with the fascists! ! Bread and Circuses 12 hrs ago #46

Interesting that you specifically mentioned Chris Murphy EdmondDantes_ 9 hrs ago #52

Seems like he had to mitigate the gaffe by restating the fact that masks should be prohibited by law. Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #62

I'm sick of them malaise 9 hrs ago #53

Shocking I tell you! luv2fly 8 hrs ago #54

Amen. And if you can't manage any guts, fucking retire. Joinfortmill 3 hrs ago #63

Arguing about the arrangement of the deck chairs on the titanic Blue Owl 1 hr ago #66