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EdmondDantes_

(1,468 posts)
21. So if you're unwilling to listen to other perspectives, it's kind of hard to blame others for not doing the same
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 03:00 PM
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I literally explained a difference in how we've connected in the past, compared to now, and your response was effectively I won't listen to that.

It's always incumbent on someone making an argument to find a way to reach the audience. As someone who has coached multiple disciplines and been coached in multiple disciplines, you learn that there's not a single message that reaches everyone. Just because you understand something in one way, doesn't mean that works for everyone. And given our recent results of doom and gloom not working electorally, if we want to win, we need to adjust our messaging to sell our party.

Sticking with what hasn't worked just because that message resonates with you, not actually a plan that seems likely to work consistently. When I get donation requests that yell about how we're doomed if I don't chip in 3 dollars, those get deleted immediately. When the Red Cross cries about urgent need for blood, there's only so many times I can donate, they need to find a better way to get more people to donate.

If the only way we can beat Trump with the "he's a horrible person" approach when there's Covid, that's not a winning strategy because we only get that every 100 years. We did the George W Bush is going to kill democracy in 2004, didn't win, we did Trump's supporters are deplorable and he's a threat to democracy in 2016, didn't win. We did Trump's a threat to democracy in 2024, didn't win. When you're saying something people lived through is the sky is falling, and the sky didn't fall as much as claimed, it becomes increasingly ineffective. Is Trump worse than last time? Absolutely. But when we relied on that and ignored that our policies under Biden weren't addressing people's concerns, just saying Trump bad, people bought into Trump wasn't that bad last time, it won't be that bad this time.

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DURec leftstreet Tuesday #1
we are the anti-Trump party bigtree Tuesday #2
Sure. But apparently, it IS hard for people. Telling people Maru Kitteh Tuesday #5
no, no, you're right bigtree Tuesday #9
The problem with that is ... PBC_Democrat Tuesday #6
two parties bigtree Tuesday #10
Third option--don't vote. CrispyQ Tuesday #33
What do you want them to say Keepthesoulalive Tuesday #29
It is not a true binary system. People can (and do, in staggering numbers) choose a 3rd option, ie not to vote. Celerity Tuesday #11
Don't forget gops fuckery SunImp Tuesday #17
Still one of the parties will win Keepthesoulalive Tuesday #30
Trump is 2-1 with us using that approach EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #13
to me, the weirdness is the disconnect bigtree Tuesday #14
So if you're unwilling to listen to other perspectives, it's kind of hard to blame others for not doing the same EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #21
you misunderstand bigtree Tuesday #23
I'm going to ask how I misunderstood this EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #40
I'm not a Democratic spokesman bigtree Tuesday #41
+1 leftstreet Tuesday #24
Which National Leaders Flew Into MN To Participate In The Protest? Rendville Tuesday #3
Kamala Harris is a private citizen SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #7
not one I recall. maybe walz told national dems to stay away nt msongs Tuesday #26
Pro workers TheFarseer Tuesday #4
They didn't care Keepthesoulalive Tuesday #32
Being the anti nazi party SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #8
We are, or should be Jilly_in_VA Tuesday #12
Democrats ARE more than an anti-Trump party mcar Tuesday #15
"Anti-Trump" Adults in charge. It's a simple message.. or it should be. LeftinOH Tuesday #16
Message "anti-establishment" candidates use when running against Democrats. betsuni Tuesday #18
Lower housing costs, lower cost of food, Melon Tuesday #19
Kamala Harris' top priorities: housing ($25,000 for first-time house buyers) food cost (ban on price gouging) betsuni Tuesday #25
exactly, this is a canard bigtree Tuesday #42
Clinton: Shrunk deficit. Gore: Social Security lock box, climate. Obama: ACA. Biden: He's FDR! betsuni Tuesday #46
I don't know. Being the pro-Nazi, anti-Democracy, "Fuck your Feelings" party maxrandb Tuesday #20
Here we go with this shit again. W_HAMILTON Tuesday #22
what one stands for might be more persuasive than what one opposes? nt msongs Tuesday #27
I Think It Is ESSENTIAL To Tell About The Opponent! After all,... ColoringFool Tuesday #37
MAGAts Voted Against Kamala. ColoringFool Tuesday #39
There are sooooo many ways.... returnee Tuesday #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Tuesday #31
Democrats put out their economic plan Keepthesoulalive Tuesday #34
Message auto-removed Name removed Tuesday #35
why should anyone parse their fear of this government bigtree Tuesday #43
Kamala/Walz Was Way More Than Anti-Trump. ColoringFool Tuesday #36
If we can't beat these sorry bastards it speaks more about the American electorate walkingman Tuesday #38
Possibly but running as policy wonks drray23 Tuesday #44
I'm getting sick & tired of this " long-shot of taking the Senate" bullshit KS Toronado Tuesday #45
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