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Ocelot II

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8. He wants to out-Reagan Reagan and out-Kennedy Kennedy.

Fri Dec 19, 2025, 10:55 AM

Dec 19

The GOP so adored Reagan that they named everything after him that they could get away with - but at least they waited until he was out of office or dead, and AFAIK Reagan himself never asked for such honors. I was not a Reagan fan, to put it mildly, but I will give him credit for avoiding blatant self-aggrandizement and observing some basic presidential protocols. And Kennedy became effectively canonized after his assassination, and even Republicans supported naming many places after him. The Kennedy Center was (and I am using the past tense for obvious reasons) a treasured national venue for all kinds of performances, not just those approved of by any particular administration. The Kennedy Space Center was so named in large part because of JFK's support for the Apollo program. Trump wants to leave a bigger footprint than either Kennedy or Reagan because that's the way he is, and he probably knows at some level that the only way for that to happen is for him to do it himself while he's alive and in office. And he wants to be able to see and revel in the monuments and institutions with his name on them because that's the way he is.

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Nearing the End of His Life, Donald Trump Is Laying Waste to Everything He Can. [View all] MineralMan Dec 19 OP

The OP title says it all. bucolic_frolic Dec 19 #1

Ice 9. tblue37 Dec 19 #7

I think Mr. Vonnegut... GiqueCee Dec 19 #9

nine nice, very nice rampartd Dec 19 #69

I could see, popsdenver Dec 19 #24

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The numbers of missles don't really matter popsdenver Dec 19 #38

This species is on the verge of amusing itself to death. Justice matters. Dec 19 #57

good one!!!!!!!!!!!! popsdenver Dec 19 #68

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Let the Chernobyl radiation blow directly into Russia FakeNoose Dec 19 #78

It's a shame such a vile human can perpetuate his evil without any restraint walkingman Dec 19 #2

This! All of this! wolfie001 Dec 19 #19

Like I've been saying all along - Scorched Earth Coldwater Dec 19 #3

Negative attention Seinan Sensei Dec 19 #60

He's desperate to build monuments to himself C_U_L8R Dec 19 #4

The issue is not Trump, he's a clown and will pass into history soon enough JPK Dec 19 #5

Corporatists and oligarchs... GiqueCee Dec 19 #12

Spot on! Hey Joe Dec 19 #44

These people assume they will come out on top in such a world MadameButterfly Dec 19 #52

In Vonnegut's "Cat's Cradle" a man commits suicide with Ice 9, which instantly freezes any water it comes tblue37 Dec 19 #6

He wants to out-Reagan Reagan and out-Kennedy Kennedy. Ocelot II Dec 19 #8

This is why we need someone like Newsom for pres pimpbot Dec 19 #34

Completely agree. No more nice. And I love Joe. It's Newsom for me. Joinfortmill Dec 19 #43

Kennedy and Reagan knew how to act with decency, dignity and decoram when they had too. mwmisses4289 Dec 19 #63

Kennedy, especially... but also to a degree Reagan, slightlv Dec 19 #73

So selfish he knows he's going down and will take everything with him if possible Raven123 Dec 19 #10

Hopefully he will take the NameAlreadyTaken Dec 19 #49

"It's so obvious. Why are Republicans letting him do this?" Ray Bruns Dec 19 #11

Corporations popsdenver Dec 19 #25

It's the ultimate evolution of capitalism Farmer-Rick Dec 19 #46

I agree popsdenver Dec 19 #56

Absolutely NameAlreadyTaken Dec 19 #50

A modern Greek Tragedy no_hypocrisy Dec 19 #13

This time MM... littlemissmartypants Dec 19 #14

Oh, Yes. He Is Clearly a Psychopath. MineralMan Dec 19 #29

It's all he's ever done. He's hoping to keep destroying... littlemissmartypants Dec 19 #65

Yup, that's him. Joinfortmill Dec 19 #45

It is all very Hitlerian. Before the Russians reached Warsaw Hitler ordered the city systematically destroyed. It was. flashman13 Dec 19 #15

The GOPs won't stop him. LuvLoogie Dec 19 #51

My point was that only the people in power, the Rs, can stop him at this time. flashman13 Dec 19 #55

The GOPs are complicit. Their longevity depends on the destruction of the constitution. LuvLoogie Dec 19 #59

I respectfully disagree with your statement, "It will never get bad enough for them". It can and probably will. flashman13 Dec 19 #70

That's what NAZIs do. Kid Berwyn Dec 19 #16

YES.......... popsdenver Dec 19 #32

trump bromeando Dec 19 #17

"Why are Republicans letting him do this?" is the question for the ages mcar Dec 19 #18

Media owned by GOP supporting big corporations DemocracyForever Dec 19 #39

I already asked a repub about this. He just gave me a weak smile. I don't even bother any more. CTyankee Dec 19 #67

The Orange A-hole is a hyper-megalomaniac who leaves its putrid stench and mark everywhere gohuskies Dec 19 #20

It IS sad for sure. My only way to think why RETHUGS continuing to allowing this is Maybe, just maybe bluestarone Dec 19 #21

The corrupt SCOTUS started this in 2000 DemocracyForever Dec 19 #41

Exactly! He will burn the world down for anyone daring to ever mock him. Bo Zarts Dec 19 #22

In his twisted brain... 2naSalit Dec 19 #36

Not soon enough. Iggo Dec 19 #23

My quick answer, MineralMan, is just because he can. It's been his way of life for so long it's what's normal to him. HeartsCanHope Dec 19 #26

"Why are Republicans letting him do this?" KS Toronado Dec 19 #27

He won't never get a chance to spend his ill gotten gain... Historic NY Dec 19 #28

Let me add.. also the US Institute of Peace Building Peacetrain Dec 19 #30

this is why so many tech billioaires have their private fortified bunkers DBoon Dec 19 #33

And that is the absolute truth malaise Dec 19 #35

K&R 2naSalit Dec 19 #37

Power and greed. But it will backfire and crush them Joinfortmill Dec 19 #40

I've been asking that question for a long time. GoodRaisin Dec 19 #42

"Sad?" Angering, IMHO. I respect your empathy, but he's past that with me. hlthe2b Dec 19 #47

The Republicans love what he's doing synni Dec 19 #48

That's what you do when you're at the end and you know you're going to hell. Melania better watch out. ChicagoTeamster Dec 19 #53

He is busy destroying anything and everything ever created by every Democratic administration. LiberalArkie Dec 19 #54

He's more like a rabid dog NHvet Dec 19 #58

he's a nihilist, a malignant narcissist, a psychopath and a sadist. barbtries Dec 19 #61

Like freaks who shoot their spouse/kids before suiciding leftstreet Dec 19 #62

Make it clear - this is not acceptable!!! sandyd921 Dec 19 #64

Idiot may or may not realize that he's on his way out, age-wise or whether-wise (him sick, not telling anyone about it) SWBTATTReg Dec 19 #66

Republican benefactors want CHAOS, and they are causing it... IthinkThereforeIAM Dec 19 #71

Hopefully someone is keeping records. Aussie105 Dec 19 #74

The fucker should just die, so he no longer has to worry about what the Bev54 Dec 19 #75

He knows how much Americans hate his guts Hassler Dec 19 #76

MaddowBlog-One day later, officials scramble to add Trump's name to the Kennedy Center LetMyPeopleVote Dec 19 #77

So painful to watch. yellow dahlia Dec 19 #79

Putting his name on the Kennedy center was suggested by one of the distinguished Board members... IcyPeas Dec 19 #80

The equivalent of a dog... RetiredParatrooper Dec 20 #81

He will be remembered, though. usonian Dec 20 #82

Nearing the end of his life Dave Id Dec 20 #83

You have to be dead to have your name on a memorial LetMyPeopleVote Dec 24 #84