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frogstar0

(233 posts) Fri Dec 12, 2025, 11:10 AM Dec 12

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One more red voter with regrets [View all]

Just one data point.
Lab tech at work, late 20s,early 30s, in national guard, spent time in Iraq.
We have talked a bit of politics over the last 1/2 year. I'm openly very anti TACO.
His reasons for voting for TACO make me cringe but whatever.
Yesterday we got talking.
He feels that he was conned, betrayed, is not proud of his vote.
Hegseth's signal chat, illegal orders touch him personally.
I listen, commiserate, and do not blame even thought he knows i think he was nuts voting for TACO.
He is not hard core maga. He is learning.
This is how we can turn the tide and save our country.
One conversation at a time, one person at a time, one vote switched means two vote difference.

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One more red voter with regrets [View all] frogstar0 Dec 12 OP

Compare these egregious Hegseth scandals with the way they screamed about Hillary's emails Walleye Dec 12 #1

I have been saying for months, gab13by13 Dec 12 #2

I fear if they turn against Trump popsdenver Dec 12 #20

Nah quakerboy Dec 12 #25

Still believe a poor vs rich message would work best for us KS Toronado Dec 12 #24

Yes, that is gaining traction i think. frogstar0 Dec 12 #32

I certainly hope so, it worked well for FDR KS Toronado Dec 12 #38

They couldn't see the FREAKING OBVIOUS for a decade or more. usonian Dec 12 #52

Agreed. But with graphics that make the disparity clear. Most Americans are not travelingthrulife Dec 12 #43

Need some really good advertising agencies to help us. KS Toronado Dec 13 #53

That's one of many reasons I think James Talarico could win the US Senate race in Texas. If he gets summer_in_TX Dec 12 #51

I know many of these people actually like trump,( I don't know why, but they do). Linda ladeewolf Dec 12 #3

Yeah, they need to go watch reruns of The Apprentice not fooled Dec 12 #12

They are at the FAFO stage NotHardly Dec 12 #4

Hey folks, think about this popsdenver Dec 12 #23

Well if you are a woman you've had your health and power over your body removed and Hope22 Dec 12 #27

Yes, let's help them see the light and 'be better' frogstar0 Dec 13 #57

We have a director where I work, a foreign born citizen... NNadir Dec 12 #5

After the years of stability under Indira Gandhi DFW Dec 12 #10

I reminded him of that at the time he made the sexist remark... NNadir Dec 12 #14

Also illegal to fire based on how they voted. Dan Dec 12 #11

OK illegal and unethical, but lets be clear that the orange pedophile, not that he... NNadir Dec 12 #15

Yes I recognize that for the Pedo-in-chief Dan Dec 12 #18

Understood. However in my case my ethical stance precludes any risk of me... NNadir Dec 12 #21

When the spell breaks and they are ready to step away, we need to be strategic like you were. Maru Kitteh Dec 12 #6

Screw that. Wifes husband Dec 12 #40

I have a very hard time being civil to them Skittles Dec 12 #48

Yep! But... frogstar0 Dec 13 #56

Totally agree to show them an open hand Alice Kramden Dec 12 #45

I admire your patience BaronChocula Dec 12 #7

Yes it is hard not to scream what were you thinking? And much worse. frogstar0 Dec 12 #29

As much as I hate to say it... Hear Hear! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 13 #62

I agree. I don't think we should double shame people for being scammed. 1WorldHope Dec 12 #8

I'll only shame them once, then. Iggo Dec 12 #16

I understand , but do it with humor, let them know you are open to hearing why, how they feel etc. frogstar0 Dec 12 #33

Doesn't really matter that much, unless I live with them or work with them... Iggo Dec 12 #41

Yes, do not make your life harder, and only do what you can do. frogstar0 Dec 12 #46

scammed? MAYBE, maybe the FIRST FUCKING TIME Skittles Dec 12 #49

I share your anger, I share your looking at them and ... frogstar0 Dec 13 #58

they can all go fuck themselves Skittles Dec 13 #65

I've noticed that the more moderate bridge players I know... ananda Dec 12 #9

How can you tell? DFW Dec 12 #13

Hey-oh! Iggo Dec 12 #17

That is soooo bad it is good! frogstar0 Dec 12 #34

Sometimes I'm surprised DFW Dec 12 #42

But he's still cool with the racist kidnappings detentions and assaults. LuvLoogie Dec 12 #19

I do not have a full picture of why he vote red, his description. frogstar0 Dec 12 #31

"His reasons for voting for TACO make me cringe..." cyndensco Dec 12 #22

That may be a good assumption Blumancru Dec 12 #28

Strangely enough he liked JFK, at least that is what I got from him so far. frogstar0 Dec 12 #30

Been saying basically the same thing for quite awhile KS Toronado Dec 12 #26

Yes,yes,yes!!! frogstar0 Dec 12 #36

Your response was right iemanja Dec 12 #35

A new member of the Leopard Eating My Face Party LetMyPeopleVote Dec 12 #37

I love how they come to their regret too late to do anything about it. Aristus Dec 12 #39

I am working on it! frogstar0 Dec 12 #44

I agree. There's a big part of me that hates MAGAts with a passion... CaptainTruth Dec 12 #47

Every one of these anecdotes gives me hope! calimary Dec 12 #50

There is an organization Leaving MAGA Freddie Dec 13 #54

Not to mention three times... frogstar0 Dec 13 #55

Part of being in a cult is the security of "community". no_hypocrisy Dec 13 #59

totally agree frogstar0 Dec 13 #60

There are some second and third generation Nazis in Germany. no_hypocrisy Dec 13 #61

I do not doubt that... we of course have... frogstar0 Dec 13 #64

Yup, but it ain't easy. Joinfortmill Dec 13 #63