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The Bopper

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Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:16 PM

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It means we'll never get enough middle of the road people back, if we insist that all we are is anything but white males should be included in the conversation.. In my area anything guns, loses, no matter how right it is.. Point being we can't include everyone if we exclude anyone who doesn't agree with us on one point who may agree on 10 others..

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Gov Newsome triangulating again. [View all] Shipwack Thursday OP

WTF is "culturally normal?" leftstreet Thursday #1

I would say this is a great example of what he's talking about. Nixie Yesterday #14

Code for "don't talk about trans or non-binary rights"? LudwigPastorius Yesterday #15

rich White male "christian" LuvLoogie 20 hrs ago #82

I think he's saying we need better messaging to get our values out..more on point Deuxcents Thursday #2

Can't say at this point whether that's right or wrong AS FAR AS winning some states we need in 2028. I hate Silent Type Thursday #3

He's swinging to the center way too soon Blasphemer Thursday #4

2026 comes first. maxsolomon 23 hrs ago #64

Ok. What is culturally normal? Raven123 Thursday #5

You know what it is. maxsolomon 23 hrs ago #65

The implication of Newsom's other sentences is "it's anti-immigration" muriel_volestrangler 23 hrs ago #68

First, please spell his name right. usonian Thursday #6

What is "wildly" successful? awesomerwb1 Yesterday #44

Bernie Sanders Packed an Arena in ... Utah usonian Yesterday #46

That's great awesomerwb1 Yesterday #48

You have to ask them. usonian Yesterday #50

It would be interesting data to have awesomerwb1 Yesterday #54

I caught some videos of the tour, and people said they were flipping. usonian 23 hrs ago #63

"Proof"? awesomerwb1 23 hrs ago #66

Post removed Post removed Thursday #7

Exactly the point. We don't have to shove people's noses Bluetus Thursday #8

Most of those things aren't even popular among Democrats gulliver Yesterday #11

. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #28

It's part of health care. It doesn't have to be called out as a special issue. Fix healthcare for everyone, incl trans beaglelover 21 hrs ago #74

When Republicans object to trans health care, should Democrats defend it, or fold because it's a niche cultural issue? WhiskeyGrinder 21 hrs ago #79

They can just say trans health care is included in our health care plans. No need to dwell on it. beaglelover 20 hrs ago #80

A lot of those things are exaggerated by the right wing JI7 Yesterday #13

I don't see data on those who don't vote, they're going after swing voters which are expensive iirc uponit7771 Yesterday #16

I can't think of a single Democrat who doesn't use pronouns. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #26

I'm a Democrat. I don't have my pronouns in my work signature. maxsolomon 23 hrs ago #69

Well stated. Sounds like Sunday morning at my church. LAS14 Yesterday #53

When the right wants to strip trans people of rights, if not outright physically harm them TheProle 19 hrs ago #94

N E W S O M Skittles Thursday #9

*WE* have to be less judgmental??? Skittles Thursday #10

Being judgemental isn't the problem LuvLoogie 20 hrs ago #83

We have to do whatever we need to win JI7 Yesterday #12

His surname is spelled Newsom Niagara Yesterday #17

I applaud the OP for posting the Huff Post article in GD muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #18

There's sources posted here that are not reliable at all Niagara Yesterday #20

I don't see that the bit you added before excuses what he said muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #21

Oh, only RW'ers are judgemental on issues? Niagara Yesterday #24

In the grand scheme of things, yes, only Republican politicians are judgmental. muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #25

We are judgmental of Nazis and fascists, nothing wrong with that. They are judgmental of non whites- big problem Blues Heron Yesterday #29

Presidents Obama and Clinton triangulated. President Biden did not. Jose Garcia Yesterday #19

Biden stepped down after being hounded out by Clooney et al Blues Heron Yesterday #32

And a litany of party leaders. BannonsLiver Yesterday #38

Et al Blues Heron Yesterday #39

He was on his way to a lanndslide loss Jose Garcia Yesterday #41

He would have won -he's the only one to defeat Trump. Giving up incumbency was highly stupid. Blues Heron Yesterday #42

After that idiot took a pot shot at MFer, the die was cast. maxsolomon 21 hrs ago #75

Dems need to find 80/20 issues they can hammer on GreatGazoo Yesterday #22

All my lefty family members are tired of the pronoun thing mainer Yesterday #23

Which Democratic candidates were demanding that? muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #27

I'm not referring to particular candidates mainer Yesterday #43

So this is not about Democrats, ie what Newsom was talking about. muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #47

... BannonsLiver Yesterday #35

Culturally normal another way to say the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?? NoMoreRepugs Yesterday #30

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #31

He's not wrong. BannonsLiver Yesterday #33

So is he pushing a purity test for the party? Emile Yesterday #34

The opposite, actually. BannonsLiver Yesterday #36

LOL, I don't think so! Emile Yesterday #37

If you say so. BannonsLiver Yesterday #40

I know exactly what you're referring to. maxsolomon 23 hrs ago #70

It's verboten to discuss but you are of course correct. BannonsLiver 20 hrs ago #87

He's saying to drop the purity tests. Nixie Yesterday #45

I guess it depends on which side of the political spectrum Emile Yesterday #49

He's definitely not on the spectrum that alienates voters with Nixie Yesterday #51

As I said, it depends on what side of the political spectrum your on. Emile Yesterday #52

We've all seen enough of this insistence and labeling of Nixie Yesterday #55

See my post #56. nt LAS14 Yesterday #57

Purity tests, on which side of the spectrum are you talking about? Emile Yesterday #58

Centrist is really the obvious purity test. A way of smearing our candidates Nixie Yesterday #60

Then if centrist is a smear, why do some politicians call themselves centrist? Emile Yesterday #61

The purity test smear is obviously that being normal, as in not being Nixie 22 hrs ago #71

Are you saying , if you are not a centrist, you are fringe? Emile 22 hrs ago #73

Denying there is a political middle isn't "progressive." Nixie 19 hrs ago #93

You still haven't answered my two questions. Emile 19 hrs ago #95

I doubt you need my answers to any of your distractions to Nixie 17 hrs ago #97

You just described a purity test! Thank you! Emile 17 hrs ago #98

Your contrived set up was the purity test. Just run a candidate because Nixie 16 hrs ago #99

You do know there are 6 wings to the democratic party? Emile 16 hrs ago #100

Oh Nixie 16 hrs ago #101

Just being literal. Emile 16 hrs ago #102

Centrist/establishment/status quo/corporate Dems: anti-progressive, corrupt, elite Them. Us: Righteous victims. betsuni 22 hrs ago #72

Curiosity here - not trying to make a point. LAS14 Yesterday #56

I think Democrats should make your point - that public Democrats are not leading with those issues muriel_volestrangler 23 hrs ago #67

Gov. Newsom has been left behind in his judgement of what's "Culturally Normal" justaprogressive Yesterday #59

He's buying into RW framing again MustLoveBeagles 23 hrs ago #62

He was doing well, now I'm not impressed. Emile 19 hrs ago #89

I'm not either MustLoveBeagles 19 hrs ago #90

Alienating part of the party is not going to win elections. Emile 19 hrs ago #91

No it isn't MustLoveBeagles 19 hrs ago #92

We lead with tolerance bucolic_frolic 21 hrs ago #76

Focusing on the wrong things all the time. BlueTsunami2018 21 hrs ago #77

Would that also be the response when a member of that community asks one of our politicians how they feel about them? BannonsLiver 20 hrs ago #81

If you think he's staking out territory well, what do you think his answer would be muriel_volestrangler 20 hrs ago #84

He answered that in his podcast some were pressed about in March. BannonsLiver 20 hrs ago #85

Give me a link muriel_volestrangler 20 hrs ago #86

Newsom, no 'e'. RandySF 21 hrs ago #78

very telling it has not been fixed Skittles 19 hrs ago #88

Telling, or maybe I've been busy? Shipwack 5 hrs ago #108

I, for one, will never vote for him in the primary if he runs. demmiblue 18 hrs ago #96

Let's see... MorbidButterflyTat 16 hrs ago #103

But they work really hard on it, like washing machines. betsuni 15 hrs ago #105

+1, yes, so desperate to continue the coveted victimization Nixie 14 hrs ago #106

We've seen this attempt of gaslighting before Niagara 4 hrs ago #111

What are the rules to being more culturally normal? Emile 16 hrs ago #104

To me The Bopper 12 hrs ago #107

OP here. I deeply regret spelling the governor's name wrong. Shipwack 5 hrs ago #109

I wouldn't worry about it. I do not understand the hypersensitivity about the extra e. I certainly do not see it... QueerDuck 4 hrs ago #110