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muriel_volestrangler

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25. In the grand scheme of things, yes, only Republican politicians are judgmental.

Fri Dec 5, 2025, 09:05 AM

23 hrs ago

If you extend it to supporters/voters, then Democratic supporters or voters may be judgmental, but Republican supporters/voters are racist, misogynist, insane and murderous - as well as judgmental. But when Newsom is talking about what "we" should do, he is obviously talking about what the Democratic party and its candidates should do.

I hope you do get it. Newsom's remark does not help. He's wrong on this. It is indeed triangulation - giving in to the right wing attempt to shift the American center towards the fascism of Trump and Trumpists.

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Gov Newsome triangulating again. [View all] Shipwack Thursday OP

WTF is "culturally normal?" leftstreet Thursday #1

I would say this is a great example of what he's talking about. Nixie Yesterday #14

Code for "don't talk about trans or non-binary rights"? LudwigPastorius Yesterday #15

rich White male "christian" LuvLoogie 17 hrs ago #82

I think he's saying we need better messaging to get our values out..more on point Deuxcents Thursday #2

Can't say at this point whether that's right or wrong AS FAR AS winning some states we need in 2028. I hate Silent Type Thursday #3

He's swinging to the center way too soon Blasphemer Thursday #4

2026 comes first. maxsolomon 19 hrs ago #64

Ok. What is culturally normal? Raven123 Thursday #5

You know what it is. maxsolomon 19 hrs ago #65

The implication of Newsom's other sentences is "it's anti-immigration" muriel_volestrangler 19 hrs ago #68

First, please spell his name right. usonian Thursday #6

What is "wildly" successful? awesomerwb1 21 hrs ago #44

Bernie Sanders Packed an Arena in ... Utah usonian 21 hrs ago #46

That's great awesomerwb1 21 hrs ago #48

You have to ask them. usonian 21 hrs ago #50

It would be interesting data to have awesomerwb1 21 hrs ago #54

I caught some videos of the tour, and people said they were flipping. usonian 19 hrs ago #63

"Proof"? awesomerwb1 19 hrs ago #66

I see his point Justice Brandeis Thursday #7

Exactly the point. We don't have to shove people's noses Bluetus Thursday #8

Most of those things aren't even popular among Democrats gulliver Yesterday #11

. WhiskeyGrinder 23 hrs ago #28

It's part of health care. It doesn't have to be called out as a special issue. Fix healthcare for everyone, incl trans beaglelover 18 hrs ago #74

When Republicans object to trans health care, should Democrats defend it, or fold because it's a niche cultural issue? WhiskeyGrinder 17 hrs ago #79

They can just say trans health care is included in our health care plans. No need to dwell on it. beaglelover 17 hrs ago #80

A lot of those things are exaggerated by the right wing JI7 Yesterday #13

I don't see data on those who don't vote, they're going after swing voters which are expensive iirc uponit7771 Yesterday #16

I can't think of a single Democrat who doesn't use pronouns. WhiskeyGrinder 23 hrs ago #26

I'm a Democrat. I don't have my pronouns in my work signature. maxsolomon 19 hrs ago #69

Well stated. Sounds like Sunday morning at my church. LAS14 21 hrs ago #53

When the right wants to strip trans people of rights, if not outright physically harm them TheProle 15 hrs ago #94

N E W S O M Skittles Thursday #9

*WE* have to be less judgmental??? Skittles Thursday #10

Being judgemental isn't the problem LuvLoogie 16 hrs ago #83

We have to do whatever we need to win JI7 Yesterday #12

His surname is spelled Newsom Niagara Yesterday #17

I applaud the OP for posting the Huff Post article in GD muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #18

There's sources posted here that are not reliable at all Niagara Yesterday #20

I don't see that the bit you added before excuses what he said muriel_volestrangler 23 hrs ago #21

Oh, only RW'ers are judgemental on issues? Niagara 23 hrs ago #24

In the grand scheme of things, yes, only Republican politicians are judgmental. muriel_volestrangler 23 hrs ago #25

We are judgmental of Nazis and fascists, nothing wrong with that. They are judgmental of non whites- big problem Blues Heron 23 hrs ago #29

Presidents Obama and Clinton triangulated. President Biden did not. Jose Garcia Yesterday #19

Biden stepped down after being hounded out by Clooney et al Blues Heron 23 hrs ago #32

And a litany of party leaders. BannonsLiver 23 hrs ago #38

Et al Blues Heron 23 hrs ago #39

He was on his way to a lanndslide loss Jose Garcia 22 hrs ago #41

He would have won -he's the only one to defeat Trump. Giving up incumbency was highly stupid. Blues Heron 22 hrs ago #42

After that idiot took a pot shot at MFer, the die was cast. maxsolomon 17 hrs ago #75

Dems need to find 80/20 issues they can hammer on GreatGazoo 23 hrs ago #22

All my lefty family members are tired of the pronoun thing mainer 23 hrs ago #23

Which Democratic candidates were demanding that? muriel_volestrangler 23 hrs ago #27

I'm not referring to particular candidates mainer 21 hrs ago #43

So this is not about Democrats, ie what Newsom was talking about. muriel_volestrangler 21 hrs ago #47

... BannonsLiver 23 hrs ago #35

Culturally normal another way to say the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?? NoMoreRepugs 23 hrs ago #30

Post removed Post removed 23 hrs ago #31

He's not wrong. BannonsLiver 23 hrs ago #33

So is he pushing a purity test for the party? Emile 23 hrs ago #34

The opposite, actually. BannonsLiver 23 hrs ago #36

LOL, I don't think so! Emile 23 hrs ago #37

If you say so. BannonsLiver 23 hrs ago #40

I know exactly what you're referring to. maxsolomon 19 hrs ago #70

It's verboten to discuss but you are of course correct. BannonsLiver 16 hrs ago #87

He's saying to drop the purity tests. Nixie 21 hrs ago #45

I guess it depends on which side of the political spectrum Emile 21 hrs ago #49

He's definitely not on the spectrum that alienates voters with Nixie 21 hrs ago #51

As I said, it depends on what side of the political spectrum your on. Emile 21 hrs ago #52

We've all seen enough of this insistence and labeling of Nixie 21 hrs ago #55

See my post #56. nt LAS14 21 hrs ago #57

Purity tests, on which side of the spectrum are you talking about? Emile 21 hrs ago #58

Centrist is really the obvious purity test. A way of smearing our candidates Nixie 20 hrs ago #60

Then if centrist is a smear, why do some politicians call themselves centrist? Emile 20 hrs ago #61

The purity test smear is obviously that being normal, as in not being Nixie 18 hrs ago #71

Are you saying , if you are not a centrist, you are fringe? Emile 18 hrs ago #73

Denying there is a political middle isn't "progressive." Nixie 15 hrs ago #93

You still haven't answered my two questions. Emile 15 hrs ago #95

I doubt you need my answers to any of your distractions to Nixie 13 hrs ago #97

You just described a purity test! Thank you! Emile 13 hrs ago #98

Your contrived set up was the purity test. Just run a candidate because Nixie 13 hrs ago #99

You do know there are 6 wings to the democratic party? Emile 13 hrs ago #100

Oh Nixie 13 hrs ago #101

Just being literal. Emile 12 hrs ago #102

Centrist/establishment/status quo/corporate Dems: anti-progressive, corrupt, elite Them. Us: Righteous victims. betsuni 18 hrs ago #72

Curiosity here - not trying to make a point. LAS14 21 hrs ago #56

I think Democrats should make your point - that public Democrats are not leading with those issues muriel_volestrangler 19 hrs ago #67

Gov. Newsom has been left behind in his judgement of what's "Culturally Normal" justaprogressive 21 hrs ago #59

He's buying into RW framing again MustLoveBeagles 20 hrs ago #62

He was doing well, now I'm not impressed. Emile 15 hrs ago #89

I'm not either MustLoveBeagles 15 hrs ago #90

Alienating part of the party is not going to win elections. Emile 15 hrs ago #91

No it isn't MustLoveBeagles 15 hrs ago #92

We lead with tolerance bucolic_frolic 17 hrs ago #76

Focusing on the wrong things all the time. BlueTsunami2018 17 hrs ago #77

Would that also be the response when a member of that community asks one of our politicians how they feel about them? BannonsLiver 17 hrs ago #81

If you think he's staking out territory well, what do you think his answer would be muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #84

He answered that in his podcast some were pressed about in March. BannonsLiver 16 hrs ago #85

Give me a link muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #86

Newsom, no 'e'. RandySF 17 hrs ago #78

very telling it has not been fixed Skittles 16 hrs ago #88

Telling, or maybe I've been busy? Shipwack 1 hr ago #108

I, for one, will never vote for him in the primary if he runs. demmiblue 14 hrs ago #96

Let's see... MorbidButterflyTat 12 hrs ago #103

But they work really hard on it, like washing machines. betsuni 12 hrs ago #105

+1, yes, so desperate to continue the coveted victimization Nixie 10 hrs ago #106

We've seen this attempt of gaslighting before Niagara 1 hr ago #111

What are the rules to being more culturally normal? Emile 12 hrs ago #104

To me The Bopper 9 hrs ago #107

OP here. I deeply regret spelling the governor's name wrong. Shipwack 1 hr ago #109

I wouldn't worry about it. I do not understand the hypersensitivity about the extra e. I certainly do not see it... QueerDuck 1 hr ago #110