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haele

(15,154 posts)
23. Average people are now Mediocre - Disposable extras and "seconds ".
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 02:32 PM
Nov 30

Whereas before the 1970's, there was generally someplace for them to land - if they worked hard enough - where their lives were considered comfortable for their time, where they could potentially buy a bit of land, or a car, or a home. The last time a working class family could even think about taking an annual two week road trip vacation to a National park or other tourist destination was probably before Reagan neutered the Unions and S&L crisis finally broke the back of working class home ownership and small local business employers.
Not to mention the practice of flattening service wages so that what used to be a living wage, like clerk (which includes cashier, secretary, or reception desk), janitor/maintenance, warehouse, drivers, is now considered an "entry level job" or scut work jobs for brain dead slackers who couldn't go to an Ivy league or has the proper class social network to get a "good job ". Technical or Skilled Trades jobs are "as needed". Part time, hurry up and wait jobs that anyone with a minimum of training and common sense can do.
Average jobs are disposable jobs. 50% of them can theoretically be replaced by automation and AI over the next ten years.
As I point this out, I am reminded that for Minorities in the US, this has been the default attitude of the Ownership class towards their employability status, whether or not they are doing important work, or had the genius, or got the education and experience to be able to make innovations and increase productivity (i.e., profit).
Now the "Real 'Murican" whose parents and grandparents lived respectable, comfortable lives where they could work for a "reasonable" business owner and still save up generational wealth for their time periods is facing the same roadblocks Minorities have faced in an increasingly compressed Living Wage labor market.
So these previously privileged adults are looking for someone to validate their upset over not being able to live the lives their childhood showed them could be possible, when they didn't see the financial stress or fear of job loss.
When a family could buy a comfortable home on a 10 - 15 year mortgage on a teacher's, janitor, mechanic's or senior clerk's job. When lower level managers and sales folk on commission - like a grocery or department store section manager - could make enough to buy a car and maintain a mortgage, and still save up to put a kid through college.

Those average jobs are fewer, and they pay the living wage equivalent of half what they did in the 1980's. It's like Childhood Nostalgia has been betrayed. So MAGA, along with Q-anon and modern Middle Class Conservatism in general, is looking for someone to blame as the floor that the Minorities used to hold up below them starts losing large pieces.
They're just either too lazy or too afraid to look "up" to see who's actually removing the floor under them.

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What does this mean? John Coktosten Nov 30 #1
In the case of people who vote for Trump, what he validates for them is their racism, their hatred of people who are Martin68 Nov 30 #3
It's Al Franken's "Stuart Smalley" character Miles Archer Nov 30 #7
Simple. White people need validation that they're the ones who are and should be in charge. paleotn Nov 30 #5
"doesn't even realize he's doing it most of the time" Seinan Sensei Nov 30 #6
I agree that Trump isn't intelligent... CBHagman Nov 30 #15
"A real life Elmer Gantry"...... 70sEraVet Nov 30 #12
Agree-- evolves Nov 30 #13
Even simpler: liberalgunwilltravel Nov 30 #14
I rarely (have I ever? Rhetorical) asked someone's post be its own post duhneece Nov 30 #17
Average people are now Mediocre - Disposable extras and "seconds ". haele Nov 30 #23
Brilliant explanation. Aristus Nov 30 #29
What they need validated Chicagogrl1 Nov 30 #10
That's because you are a normal human being. What I mean by normal is: reasonably well adjusted and comfortable with KPN Nov 30 #16
Thank you KPN John Coktosten Nov 30 #21
It means TSF is stupid enough... Trueblue Texan Nov 30 #24
It means TSF is the pimp... returnee Nov 30 #25
I would interpret "the need for validation" as "there's a type of person who needs to feel superior to other people." CrispyQ Nov 30 #26
That you matter. That you're special. That you're a winner. Joinfortmill Nov 30 #27
As Brolin said, they look to him for validation. He validates their hate by hating the same people they do. patphil Nov 30 #2
Not everyone can think for themselves. They are the slow running zebras. twodogsbarking Nov 30 #4
Even worse.... Roy Rolling Nov 30 #8
Good One !!!!!!!!!!! popsdenver Nov 30 #9
Probably includes the men around him too John Coktosten Nov 30 #22
I have no doubt about popsdenver Nov 30 #28
Exactly orangecrush Nov 30 #11
really kind of wish that peope would stop using the term 'genius' in ANY sphere or context .. stopdiggin Nov 30 #18
Totally BaronChocula Nov 30 #20
That is how cults work BaronChocula Nov 30 #19
he makes being an asshole a 'good' thing. pansypoo53219 Dec 1 #30
Looks like the same dynamics of relations between women and abusive men also Stargazer99 Dec 1 #31
Yes, but it's not that hard or so genius when you have a whole goddamn propaganda network LymphocyteLover Dec 1 #32
That's a really excellent observation. Happy Hoosier Dec 1 #33
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