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Miles Archer

(21,756 posts)
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 10:48 AM Nov 30

Josh Brolin CONFIRMS what I've told you ALL ALONG about TRUMP and the "Pimp Lessons" episode of "The Shield."

I was a big fan of The Shield from the first day that it aired. IN ONE EPISODE...and you can see the clip of you go to YouTube and search on "The Shield Pimp Lessons"...there is an episode in which a prostitute is arrested, and she seems to be "too high-class to be in this line of work," from the detectives' perspectives. She explains why she does it, but then they go to the pimp.

He says he looks for the weakness in women, the thing they want the most but don't have, and positions himself as THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN GIVE IT TO THEM. Then, once they believe that, he TAKES IT AWAY. The message is clear. You'll NEVER HAVE what you want MOST until you pledge your unconditional loyalty and fealty TO ME.

Folks on DU who have known me over the years know I've held that up MANY TIMES as a perfect description of HOW TRUMP GETS AWAY WITH IT, and it aired LONG before he went into politics.

SO NOW, BROLIN SAYS THIS:

https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/films/features/josh-brolin-interview-knives-out-3-dune-thanos-b2872805.html

“there is no greater genius than him in marketing – he takes the weakness of the general population and fills it. And that’s why I think a lot of people feel that they have a mascot in him. I think it’s much less about Trump than it is about the general population and their need for validation.”


It's EXACTLY THE SAME THING said with DIFFERENT WORDS, folks.
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Josh Brolin CONFIRMS what I've told you ALL ALONG about TRUMP and the "Pimp Lessons" episode of "The Shield." (Original Post) Miles Archer Nov 30 OP
What does this mean? John Coktosten Nov 30 #1
In the case of people who vote for Trump, what he validates for them is their racism, their hatred of people who are Martin68 Nov 30 #3
It's Al Franken's "Stuart Smalley" character Miles Archer Nov 30 #7
Simple. White people need validation that they're the ones who are and should be in charge. paleotn Nov 30 #5
"doesn't even realize he's doing it most of the time" Seinan Sensei Nov 30 #6
I agree that Trump isn't intelligent... CBHagman Nov 30 #15
"A real life Elmer Gantry"...... 70sEraVet Nov 30 #12
Agree-- evolves Nov 30 #13
Even simpler: liberalgunwilltravel Nov 30 #14
I rarely (have I ever? Rhetorical) asked someone's post be its own post duhneece Nov 30 #17
Average people are now Mediocre - Disposable extras and "seconds ". haele Nov 30 #23
Brilliant explanation. Aristus Nov 30 #29
What they need validated Chicagogrl1 Nov 30 #10
That's because you are a normal human being. What I mean by normal is: reasonably well adjusted and comfortable with KPN Nov 30 #16
Thank you KPN John Coktosten Nov 30 #21
It means TSF is stupid enough... Trueblue Texan Nov 30 #24
It means TSF is the pimp... returnee Nov 30 #25
I would interpret "the need for validation" as "there's a type of person who needs to feel superior to other people." CrispyQ Nov 30 #26
That you matter. That you're special. That you're a winner. Joinfortmill Nov 30 #27
As Brolin said, they look to him for validation. He validates their hate by hating the same people they do. patphil Nov 30 #2
Not everyone can think for themselves. They are the slow running zebras. twodogsbarking Nov 30 #4
Even worse.... Roy Rolling Nov 30 #8
Good One !!!!!!!!!!! popsdenver Nov 30 #9
Probably includes the men around him too John Coktosten Nov 30 #22
I have no doubt about popsdenver Nov 30 #28
Exactly orangecrush Nov 30 #11
really kind of wish that peope would stop using the term 'genius' in ANY sphere or context .. stopdiggin Nov 30 #18
Totally BaronChocula Nov 30 #20
That is how cults work BaronChocula Nov 30 #19
he makes being an asshole a 'good' thing. pansypoo53219 Dec 1 #30
Looks like the same dynamics of relations between women and abusive men also Stargazer99 Dec 1 #31
Yes, but it's not that hard or so genius when you have a whole goddamn propaganda network LymphocyteLover Dec 1 #32
That's a really excellent observation. Happy Hoosier Dec 1 #33
 

John Coktosten

(179 posts)
1. What does this mean?
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 11:35 AM
Nov 30

"......the general population and their need for validation.”?

Need for validation? I don't understand. What do we need validated?

Martin68

(27,052 posts)
3. In the case of people who vote for Trump, what he validates for them is their racism, their hatred of people who are
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 11:49 AM
Nov 30

different from them, and he sticks it to the libtards.

Miles Archer

(21,756 posts)
7. It's Al Franken's "Stuart Smalley" character
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 12:17 PM
Nov 30

The guy's a hot mess and he keeps looking in the mirror and saying "you're GOOD enough, you're SMART enough, and gosh darn, people LIKE you."

And, of course, not one word of that it true.

But it DOES PROVIDE TRUMP with a very convenient point of entry to their wallets.

paleotn

(21,527 posts)
5. Simple. White people need validation that they're the ones who are and should be in charge.
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 11:58 AM
Nov 30

Economically, some people need validation that they and their lack of marketable skills in a changing economy aren't the problem. It's those pesky brown people, women, "DEI hires" getting ahead of them.

Fundigelicals need validation that they're still the source of all things moral and should be driving our culture, not pushed aside as an anachronism in a rapidly secularizing world.

Many men seem to need validation that their longing for traditional male leadership roles in their families aren't also anachronistic. Being an equal partner is apparently scary for them. For the life of me I don't know why, and I'm a 60+ male.

And on and on....

Trump validates those needs. Makes them feel that they're OK, even if some of those needs are rather fucked up in the 21st century. Gives them a tribe to belong to. Tells them that they're right and society's direction can and should be changed. "You're not being left behind. YOU were right all along. It's society that's wrong."

See how that might play in their minds? He's a master manipulator and doesn't even realize he's doing it most of the time. A real life Elmer Gantry.

Seinan Sensei

(1,358 posts)
6. "doesn't even realize he's doing it most of the time"
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 12:13 PM
Nov 30

I think this is exactly right.

Trumpty Dumpty is NOT a smart man.

And his lizard-brain instincts are supercharged by sheer, unadulterated shamelessness

CBHagman

(17,431 posts)
15. I agree that Trump isn't intelligent...
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 01:11 PM
Nov 30

...and from what I have gathered, the shamelessness was taught to him as a survival tool, one that works because as long as he doesn't have to admit he did anything wrong, offer an apology, or adjust his behavior, he has the illusion of strength and power, and he fends off attacks. He also has backers who will parrot what he says/posts.

evolves

(5,738 posts)
13. Agree--
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 12:35 PM
Nov 30

it is all about having a tribe and somewhere to belong. The direction of the larger culture as it has moved towards greater inclusion has pulled the rug out from under those whose only advantage in their own eyes is their whiteness. They know, deep down, that they have nothing else. They are poor, they are uneducated, they lack social skills and connections, but "at least they are white" in their own estimations.
Having what they see as a "racial advantage" is all they have left in today's world, where most people welcome diversity and inclusion of those previously marginalized. MAGA gives them a place to vent their frustration by hating on those they believe are less-than.

What they don't realize is that they hate themselves, and DJT hates everyone, including himself.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,079 posts)
14. Even simpler:
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 12:36 PM
Nov 30

Trump validates the racism of his base. Trump and those around took LBJ's wisdom to heart: "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

duhneece

(4,475 posts)
17. I rarely (have I ever? Rhetorical) asked someone's post be its own post
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 01:27 PM
Nov 30

You laid it out clearly, and in the fewest possible words. Brevity wins every time.

haele

(15,074 posts)
23. Average people are now Mediocre - Disposable extras and "seconds ".
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 02:32 PM
Nov 30

Whereas before the 1970's, there was generally someplace for them to land - if they worked hard enough - where their lives were considered comfortable for their time, where they could potentially buy a bit of land, or a car, or a home. The last time a working class family could even think about taking an annual two week road trip vacation to a National park or other tourist destination was probably before Reagan neutered the Unions and S&L crisis finally broke the back of working class home ownership and small local business employers.
Not to mention the practice of flattening service wages so that what used to be a living wage, like clerk (which includes cashier, secretary, or reception desk), janitor/maintenance, warehouse, drivers, is now considered an "entry level job" or scut work jobs for brain dead slackers who couldn't go to an Ivy league or has the proper class social network to get a "good job ". Technical or Skilled Trades jobs are "as needed". Part time, hurry up and wait jobs that anyone with a minimum of training and common sense can do.
Average jobs are disposable jobs. 50% of them can theoretically be replaced by automation and AI over the next ten years.
As I point this out, I am reminded that for Minorities in the US, this has been the default attitude of the Ownership class towards their employability status, whether or not they are doing important work, or had the genius, or got the education and experience to be able to make innovations and increase productivity (i.e., profit).
Now the "Real 'Murican" whose parents and grandparents lived respectable, comfortable lives where they could work for a "reasonable" business owner and still save up generational wealth for their time periods is facing the same roadblocks Minorities have faced in an increasingly compressed Living Wage labor market.
So these previously privileged adults are looking for someone to validate their upset over not being able to live the lives their childhood showed them could be possible, when they didn't see the financial stress or fear of job loss.
When a family could buy a comfortable home on a 10 - 15 year mortgage on a teacher's, janitor, mechanic's or senior clerk's job. When lower level managers and sales folk on commission - like a grocery or department store section manager - could make enough to buy a car and maintain a mortgage, and still save up to put a kid through college.

Those average jobs are fewer, and they pay the living wage equivalent of half what they did in the 1980's. It's like Childhood Nostalgia has been betrayed. So MAGA, along with Q-anon and modern Middle Class Conservatism in general, is looking for someone to blame as the floor that the Minorities used to hold up below them starts losing large pieces.
They're just either too lazy or too afraid to look "up" to see who's actually removing the floor under them.

Chicagogrl1

(612 posts)
10. What they need validated
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 12:22 PM
Nov 30

Is their shittiness, their inadequacies, their racism, they’re overall need to feel like they’re important even though they haven’t done the work.

KPN

(17,142 posts)
16. That's because you are a normal human being. What I mean by normal is: reasonably well adjusted and comfortable with
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 01:24 PM
Nov 30

who you are; you get the validation you need from within; you are able to love yourself as you are even while recognizing you are not perfect.

That's my take anyway.

There are a lot of damaged people out there who need and seek validation from others whether consciously or not (unconsciously).

Trueblue Texan

(4,186 posts)
24. It means TSF is stupid enough...
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 02:37 PM
Nov 30

…to make them feel smart, and racist enough to make them feel good about themselves.

CrispyQ

(40,667 posts)
26. I would interpret "the need for validation" as "there's a type of person who needs to feel superior to other people."
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 03:41 PM
Nov 30

patphil

(8,723 posts)
2. As Brolin said, they look to him for validation. He validates their hate by hating the same people they do.
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 11:38 AM
Nov 30

They see him as a rallying point; an anchor that keeps them steady in the hate filled world he helps them construct.
In this world of false reality, they are his brain dead zombies. He tells them what to think, what to say, what to do, how to feel, how to act, and exactly who to hate.

Roy Rolling

(7,419 posts)
8. Even worse....
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 12:19 PM
Nov 30

The weakness of the general population is a direct result of and plan of a dictator.

popsdenver

(1,537 posts)
9. Good One !!!!!!!!!!!
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 12:22 PM
Nov 30

Funny, every time I look at the group of women surrounding him, doting over him, I think the same thing about all of them.....BangBang Boebert, Bimbo Bondi, Krusty Noem, etc etc.

The major difference between every single one of them, and a street walker coke whore is:
The coke whores have things they WON'T DO, for ANY amount of money, the group of the women surrounding Trump, have NOTHING they won't do for money......

 

John Coktosten

(179 posts)
22. Probably includes the men around him too
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 02:10 PM
Nov 30

Examples......Rubio, Little Lindsey Graham, etc....

stopdiggin

(15,021 posts)
18. really kind of wish that peope would stop using the term 'genius' in ANY sphere or context ..
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 01:31 PM
Nov 30

In relation to the ignorant and talentless blob of fungi that currently inhabits ...

If Trump 'fills a need' somewhere in the population - it comes about by pure accident - and certainly NOT through some sort of 'genius' marketing or strategy. The man simply is not that bright. (and would be three times as effective if he were). But the flat slob just wanders around doing 'the flat slob' - and in the process, oftentimes sh*ting in his own corner. Brilliant!

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BaronChocula

(4,026 posts)
20. Totally
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 02:00 PM
Nov 30

He's no genius. He's just relentless, unprincipled and needy. There were richer and more successful business people in the 80s that could have used their money to become pop icons, but it wasn't their thing. He just put the work in to get the attention he felt he needed, lying, bragging, and cheating people to get there.

BaronChocula

(4,026 posts)
19. That is how cults work
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 01:52 PM
Nov 30

And we've all been saying that it's a cult. It's not a joke at all.

What makes it atypical from other cults is that there was little recruitment required. They began as fans of Limbaugh who did all the groundwork. Politically, they highjacked the teabagger movement where Sarah Palin flashed in the pan and then they migrated to trump with his Obama Obsession, making them birthers and eventual magas.

But no one needed to take away what they wanted most (as in the Shield example). The validation itself has been the narcotic and it keeps them hooked. So far.

Stargazer99

(3,440 posts)
31. Looks like the same dynamics of relations between women and abusive men also
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:05 AM
Dec 1

Women look at the dynamics if you have an abusive relationship....and think

LymphocyteLover

(9,361 posts)
32. Yes, but it's not that hard or so genius when you have a whole goddamn propaganda network
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 08:00 AM
Dec 1

promoting you plus you know what the base loves to hear

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