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In reply to the discussion: Putin Told Me No Country* Allows Mail-In Voting [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(174,619 posts)46. MaddowBlog-Trump's crusade against mail-in ballots isn't doing Republicans any favors
Republican officials want their partys voters to cast their ballots through the mail. The presidents rhetoric is undermining his partys message.
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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-crusade-mail-ballots-isnt-republicans-favors-rcna225844
Then Trump hosted an Oval Office meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy during which the Republican became rather animated but not about the largest war in Europe since World War II. Rather, the American president got worked up talking about how much he hates when Americans vote by casting ballots through the mail.
.....To justify this radical and aggressive offensive against this form of voting, Trump is peddling a variety of stale lies. More importantly, hes claiming legal authority he does not have. But whether he realizes it or not, the president is also taking steps that wont do his party any favors. Politico reported that hes once again threatening to undermine a Republican electoral priority.
Politico quoted Barrett Marson, a longtime GOP consultant in Arizona, who said voting by mail historically has been an advantage for Republicans in the Grand Canyon State and is a safe and secure way to vote and has been for a generation in Arizona. He added, however, that as the president sows distrust in the process and Democrats step up their game, the result is not good for Republicans.
It would be tough to blame GOP voters for feeling confused at this point. For years, Trump, the partys undisputed leader, has veered wildly between two opposite positions. On the one hand, hes falsely condemned mail-in voting as irredeemably corrupt and stupid. On the other hand, in between delivering those condemnations, the president has also encouraged rank-and-file GOP voters to cast their ballots through the mail.
At one point in 2023, Trump even told attendees at the Conservative Political Action Conference that it was time for Republicans to change our thinking on mail-in voting, and soon after, he filmed a video for the Republican National Committee in support of the partys early voting initiative.
Trump echoes comments he said Putin made to him last Friday: "Mail in ballots are corrupt. You can never have a real democracy w/ mail in ballots. We as a Republican Party are gonna do everything possible. We're gonna start with an executive order to end mail in ballots."
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-08-18T17:44:45.317Z
.....To justify this radical and aggressive offensive against this form of voting, Trump is peddling a variety of stale lies. More importantly, hes claiming legal authority he does not have. But whether he realizes it or not, the president is also taking steps that wont do his party any favors. Politico reported that hes once again threatening to undermine a Republican electoral priority.
Republicans poured tens of millions of dollars last year into convincing their voters that casting ballots by mail was safe after Trump spent years bashing the practice and baselessly insisting it was rife with fraud. And it worked, with GOP voters closing or even reversing the mail voting gap with Democrats in several states. But now Trump is attacking mail voting again as he ratchets up his push to protect Republicans House majority in the midterms, scrambling a strategy Republicans effectively used to bank millions of votes in 2024.
Politico quoted Barrett Marson, a longtime GOP consultant in Arizona, who said voting by mail historically has been an advantage for Republicans in the Grand Canyon State and is a safe and secure way to vote and has been for a generation in Arizona. He added, however, that as the president sows distrust in the process and Democrats step up their game, the result is not good for Republicans.
It would be tough to blame GOP voters for feeling confused at this point. For years, Trump, the partys undisputed leader, has veered wildly between two opposite positions. On the one hand, hes falsely condemned mail-in voting as irredeemably corrupt and stupid. On the other hand, in between delivering those condemnations, the president has also encouraged rank-and-file GOP voters to cast their ballots through the mail.
At one point in 2023, Trump even told attendees at the Conservative Political Action Conference that it was time for Republicans to change our thinking on mail-in voting, and soon after, he filmed a video for the Republican National Committee in support of the partys early voting initiative.
In Texas, vote by mail is a key part of the GOP GOTV efforts. A larger percentage of GOP voters are older and vote by mail. trump may be hurting GOP GOTV efforts
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Fiona Hill, who is a specialist on Russia, whom you may remember from Trump's first
Bev54
Aug 2025
#17
I did watch a video where she claimed that but I can find no concrete evidence
Celerity
Aug 2025
#45
I don't know but I do know that I would believe her before I believe any AI or internet content
Bev54
Aug 2025
#47
I never rely on AI, I do not use it nor trust it, and I tend to be automatically suspicious when I see it being used by
Celerity
Aug 2025
#48
Maybe for out of country (diplomats etc) but not for in country voting - the peasants
LiberalArkie
Aug 2025
#33
Russia Is The Only One Of The Country's Listed For Which The Answer Seems To Be Both Yes And No
MayReasonRule
Aug 2025
#7
Bev54 Noted That Fiona Hill A Russia Specialist Confirmed That Russia Has Mail-In Voting
MayReasonRule
Aug 2025
#22
And, of course, Trump sees no reason not to believe Putin. Nor does Trump have the simple ...
Jim__
Aug 2025
#14
If they were unafraid to infuriate the pedotoddler, and then get his childish retribution...
Justice matters.
Aug 2025
#18
Perhaps and perhaps not, Putin lies to Trump all the time and he knows Trump is too stupid
Bev54
Aug 2025
#29
Why is this motherfucker allowing Putin to dictate how our elections should be run????
GoCubsGo
Aug 2025
#24
Why even bring up mail-in voting, of any of the other nonsensical shit he blurts out at the most inappropriate moments?
sop
Aug 2025
#34
MaddowBlog-Trump's crusade against mail-in ballots isn't doing Republicans any favors
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 2025
#46