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hlthe2b

(112,493 posts)
44. It seems it would be by default..
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 07:41 PM
Jun 2025

I believe if the blue/bluish states mentioned passed a law in each state that required all businesses of 50 or more employees to submit their Federal tax dollars from their employees and for their business to an ESCROW account controlled by the state along with all records and which the states would routinely submit to IRS ONLY IF there had been no attempts to withhold agreed-upon FEMA or university or other funding. And if Trump's admin as the prime example, was withholding or making attempts to harm a blue state through directed targeted policies then only the amount EQUAL to what the state would owe in relation to the others (deducting for Callifornia as example the $ 80 million that that state pays over and above to support all the red states) well, there would be dramatic impact.

These ESCROW accounts could be merely "pass-through" in any future administration that was not trying to harm these blue states, but the withholding by even just California, Illinois, and New York would fully devastate the remaining US coffers and red states. If you think things would not dramatically change (even if it became a secession by default) then I think you need to consider the impacts of that premise more fully.

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Lucky. Torchlight Jun 2025 #1
Cascadia came to my attention when I started following pat_k Jun 2025 #3
Damn Lucky!! pat_k Jun 2025 #5
Cascadia has been thrown around for a while. maveric Jun 2025 #2
I've heard it in reference to the "bioregion" pat_k Jun 2025 #4
Then, there is the book Ecotopia by Ernest Callenbach Attilatheblond Jun 2025 #60
I'd hate to give up the name.... sdfernando Jun 2025 #6
Like it pat_k Jun 2025 #22
Sanity NewHendoLib Jun 2025 #7
I'd call it a disaster for those of us who would be left in the US EdmondDantes_ Jun 2025 #8
So we just need to get a red state succession movement going. pat_k Jun 2025 #23
I'd be fine with that as long as we offered space for those who want to leave red states EdmondDantes_ Jun 2025 #49
Thinking through details, even when just toying... pat_k Jun 2025 #61
My New Home WiVoter Jun 2025 #9
geez...exactly the same time. ret5hd Jun 2025 #11
Yep..I'd call it Home Deuxcents Jun 2025 #30
My new home...what else could i possibly do? ret5hd Jun 2025 #10
Pacifica obamanut2012 Jun 2025 #12
That works because Hawaii can join! pandr32 Jun 2025 #45
shoots proud patriot Jun 2025 #51
Agreed. Thought of West Coastia but Pacifica is just right. brush Jun 2025 #54
Screwyouistan Bobstandard Jun 2025 #13
I live in Oregon Tree Lady Jun 2025 #24
India Renew Deal Jun 2025 #14
The Land of the Free. n/t Mister Ed Jun 2025 #15
Add CO, NM and any NE, MidAtlantic, and upper Midwestern states with Canada and I'll be fine with Canada+ hlthe2b Jun 2025 #16
Have any ideas on encouraging ... pat_k Jun 2025 #38
It seems it would be by default.. hlthe2b Jun 2025 #44
Somehow, these escrow laws weren't on my radar pat_k Jun 2025 #46
Some accountant/lawyers smarter than me would have to work it out, but it does seem states DO hold SOME power hlthe2b Jun 2025 #47
Thank you JustAnotherGen Jun 2025 #58
How about Jefferson? (Just to mess with our secessionist MAGAs in Shasta.) petronius Jun 2025 #17
Since we're just dreamin' the dream, pat_k Jun 2025 #26
Happy. Ping Tung Jun 2025 #18
Depends on how large their navy is. n/t flvegan Jun 2025 #19
a Trump nuclear target Celerity Jun 2025 #20
Stomach turning pat_k Jun 2025 #39
Smart crazylikafox Jun 2025 #21
A haven for intelligent people Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2025 #25
Fuck Donald Trump SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #27
The NCR sakabatou Jun 2025 #28
Pacifica Wicked Blue Jun 2025 #29
Cascadia Basso8vb Jun 2025 #31
Already has a name angrychair Jun 2025 #32
Doesn't include much of CA. pat_k Jun 2025 #40
Yea but it's a older Independence movement angrychair Jun 2025 #55
You spark my interest in the evolution of the notion over the decades. pat_k Jun 2025 #63
Russian Meme AStern Jun 2025 #33
Bad for our country. Our unity is our strength. Norrrm Jun 2025 #34
Of course you are right. pat_k Jun 2025 #41
Seceed enid602 Jun 2025 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2025 #36
Think so? GP6971 Jun 2025 #37
California Republic Retrograde Jun 2025 #42
Home Mordred Jun 2025 #43
home mercuryblues Jun 2025 #48
home mike_c Jun 2025 #50
Home! Sparkly Jun 2025 #52
Maybe they could become new provinces of Canada. GaYellowDawg Jun 2025 #53
A good start C_U_L8R Jun 2025 #56
California LilyBelle Jun 2025 #57
My older daughter and hubby live in Oregon Ishoutandscream2 Jun 2025 #59
United States of the Pacific Coast Nictuku Jun 2025 #62
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