Joking aside, I've heard the appellation, 'Cascadia' applied to the NW states as a whole in some other context I can't remember.

... activities of the Sightline Institute

Cascadia map here:

https://www.sightline.org/cascadia-map/

with common problems and interests.

A map from Sightline Institute
https://www.sightline.org/cascadia-map/

and another by Starhawk called The Fifth Sacred Thing

both about people of that area striking out on their own to create a society that repairs the damage to the area and seeks more sensible, respectful lifestyles.

How about "The United Free States of America"???

Although looking at the red state blue state map, I'm warming to the idea of planting the notion of a red state secession to create the Un-American Christian Nationalist country the propaganda and money folks seem hell bent on turning the USA into. Then we can remain the USA.

https://freedomforallamericans.org/red-vs-blue-states/

Let the new red country be dedicated to their Un-American, Christian Nationalist, racist, xenophobic, straight white only, everyone out for themselves, cruel notion of utopia. I have a feeling they'd be begging to rejoin within a decade.

And help them afford it. I'm just not at all excited for a Senate with 6 fewer Democrats, all those fewer EC votes, and fewer Representatives. That's before the economic impacts.

...with an idea reveals important problems and insights about how interrelated we are. We may view things as red v. blue, but there are nightmare scenarios with trying to effect some sort of partitioning.

So we move to the question of how the heck do we get through this with compassion for the vast array of humans who occupy this enormous country?

that would be awesome

Sounds good to me!

at least until a better mutually agreeable name presents itself.

Yes, it is a positive answer to a nightmare even while a mere daydream... sigh...

... red states to secede and make their own horrible country? Then the rest of us could get serious about the business of creating a more perfect union

I believe if the blue/bluish states mentioned passed a law in each state that required all businesses of 50 or more employees to submit their Federal tax dollars from their employees and for their business to an ESCROW account controlled by the state along with all records and which the states would routinely submit to IRS ONLY IF there had been no attempts to withhold agreed-upon FEMA or university or other funding. And if Trump's admin as the prime example, was withholding or making attempts to harm a blue state through directed targeted policies then only the amount EQUAL to what the state would owe in relation to the others (deducting for Callifornia as example the $ 80 million that that state pays over and above to support all the red states) well, there would be dramatic impact.

These ESCROW accounts could be merely "pass-through" in any future administration that was not trying to harm these blue states, but the withholding by even just California, Illinois, and New York would fully devastate the remaining US coffers and red states. If you think things would not dramatically change (even if it became a secession by default) then I think you need to consider the impacts of that premise more fully.

Food for thought for sure!

at least over business contributions to IRS (and that is the majority). Individuals owing at tax time and self-employed would not be affected unless they had more than 50 employees.

Of course all these states would be taken to court by DOJ over this, but it might well take years to sort it out. And hell, by that time the states may be quite prepared to simply ignore US Federal courts and essentially secede. Just spit-balling, but...

I've been trying to think of HOW we could do it.

NJ won't be able to participate. I think Shitarelli is going to win.

... perhaps, instead of a constitutional amendment for a secession process, we do the opposite -- and go for a mechanism to eject states that pass a "red line" in their Un-American, Christian Nationalist, racist, cruel, agenda.

They hate the Federal Gov so much? Okay. "No soup for you!"

...istan?

IYKYK.

Pacifica works too but that's also a beautiful coastal city just south of San Francisco.

Cascadia. Even have a flag
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_movement

My understanding is that Cascadia is more of a "bioregion"

https://www.sightline.org/cascadia-map/

That's been around for decades. There are very different versions of "Cascadia"depending on who you ask. My click includes WA, OR, CA, BC (Canada) and AK.
Some only included northern CA, others include NV.
Until recently it was more an ideal than a practical aspiration.

nt

Division would result in several small-time countries to be run over by the big guys.

Which little country would Trump want to be the big fish in a little pond?

But sometimes even just toying with ideas can lead to meaningful insights.

Newsom would just re direct payroll tax contributions to Sacramento, until details with Ottawa are ironed out.

It’s already on the flag. If Oregon or Washington want to join I suppose we could go with Bear Republic

Great minds think alike!

Tie the population of the West Coast states with the natural resources of Canada and you'd have a hell of a powerhouse.

I'm sure there are others who would gladly join a new union.

Been there for three years now and love it. Maybe this new country would take my wife, son, and I as citizens.