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40. And I'm sure every Hillary Clinton supporter would have just said "OK" if Obama tried to tip the nomination away

Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:53 PM

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from her in 2016. I thought it was pretty clear what the score was in 2008 - the 2016 nomination was Hillary's (barring some unforeseen event) and the Vice Presidency was considered the capstone to Biden's distinguished career - nobody at the time thought he was going to be the 2016 nominee at age 74.

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It's not just Karine Jean-Pierre [View all] Quiet Em Jun 2025 OP

Bernie, AOC and Hispanic Caucus all supported Biden as well displacedvermoter Jun 2025 #1

They aren't the base of the party JustAnotherGen Jun 2025 #36

I've been asking myself who the Democratic base is. Dr. T Jun 2025 #57

As much as I love Kamala, I'm with Joe Biden, Bernie, AOC, Hispanics and the Black Caucus. What am I? Greybnk48 Jun 2025 #63

Black Women JustAnotherGen Jun 2025 #69

It's Biden's fault. He never should have run for a second term and he should have given Harris more space to run. n/t seaglass Jun 2025 #2

Ding ding ding! Music Man Jun 2025 #5

President Obama should have backed his vice president Joe Biden to run in 2016 Wicked Blue Jun 2025 #10

I thought Biden decided not to run genxlib Jun 2025 #27

Yet when his wife and daughter were killed in a car crash, he decided to serve in the Senate. elocs Jun 2025 #59

And I'm sure every Hillary Clinton supporter would have just said "OK" if Obama tried to tip the nomination away Midwestern Democrat Jun 2025 #40

I don't believe anyone should "own" the party nomination Wicked Blue Jun 2025 #60

Not to mention his Mblaze Jun 2025 #12

They had already made his age and "cognitive decline" an election issue In It to Win It Jun 2025 #21

As he should have. Mblaze Jun 2025 #30

Agreed - Biden was losing before the debate - that's why his campaign wanted the "high risk/high reward" Midwestern Democrat Jun 2025 #41

Absolutely correct sir. bagimin Jun 2025 #44

Biden's debate performance was catastrophic doubleplusgood Jun 2025 #29

Once again... bagimin Jun 2025 #45

Why was Biden's "poor debate performance " Mtnmama Jun 2025 #48

Where was the FACT CHECKING, Fake Yapper? LSparkle Jun 2025 #51

Persuading people to go and vote usually needs to be more than "not as bad as the other guy" muriel_volestrangler Jun 2025 #54

Lying is a given for Donald Trump. Mblaze Jun 2025 #65

Divisiveness and separation are what I hear. Nobody in this gets a prize alone. live love laugh Jun 2025 #3

Totally agree. When I see the numbers I'll believe this OP. ancianita Jun 2025 #17

Oh well JustAnotherGen Jun 2025 #37

You got to the core of the point! Clouds Passing Jun 2025 #62

Wishful thinking vs. reality question everything Jun 2025 #4

According to polling, most Black voters did not want Biden to run again. tman Jun 2025 #6

Any source for this? Just asking. ancianita Jun 2025 #19

Pew here shows 49% wanting neither Biden or Trump EdmondDantes_ Jun 2025 #31

And a lot of other people too, including me and many here. ananda Jun 2025 #7

And there have DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #13

All from being too nice. ananda Jun 2025 #20

Them trying to always play nice, writing "Stern Letters," and DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #25

Our great leaders right now are all Black women. ananda Jun 2025 #32

Agreed. Should have started after 2000 stopping the recount. Bolton and Stone et al Evolve Dammit Jun 2025 #42

It would be good to hear from black women here karynnj Jun 2025 #8

Thank you for including us JustAnotherGen Jun 2025 #35

TY for the reminder Hekate Jun 2025 #9

Joe Biden and the 2024 election are ancient history. Everyone needs to get over it. flashman13 Jun 2025 #11

it is very tiresome indeed Skittles Jun 2025 #28

Wow. This smacks of MAGA's "F*ck your feelings" trope. Heidi Jun 2025 #64

Kick, kick, kick! Heidi Jun 2025 #14

I also was against removing President Biden from the top of the ticket LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2025 #15

So was I In It to Win It Jun 2025 #34

Here is a good interview explaining her decision LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2025 #16

Will we EVER move on from this and address the present? NoMoreRepugs Jun 2025 #18

The comments here just reinforce why we lost and will continue to. Tootbsb Jun 2025 #22

Rehashing the last election? Grumpy Old Guy Jun 2025 #23

Exactly. BannonsLiver Jun 2025 #61

ALL of these issues..... MyOwnPeace Jun 2025 #24

I think that has been explained DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #26

About 5% of the adult population watches Fox News Kaleva Jun 2025 #43

Good point. ChazII Jun 2025 #49

Not sure I can buy into your figure of 5% DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #52

There are about 260 million adults in this country Kaleva Jun 2025 #66

I don't think he did JustAnotherGen Jun 2025 #38

I'm an NYC'r, and a friend just told me about the Rockland County Vote Count issue yesteday- so I'm now... electric_blue68 Jun 2025 #67

It's pretty clear now that Biden wasn't up to the job iemanja Jun 2025 #33

Well and good, I suppose. czarjak Jun 2025 #39

Biden would have lost far worse than Harris did. nt Celerity Jun 2025 #46

That's an ugly fact, but a fact none the less. comradebillyboy Jun 2025 #58

No option was a guaranteed slam dunk. It's fine to debate this but you're proving nothing either way. RoeVWade Jun 2025 #47

You are absolutely correct, Quiet Em! HeartsCanHope Jun 2025 #50

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2025 #53

Snubbing the party, and abandoning the party in order to "punish" the party does not IMPROVE the party. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2025 #55

The Democratic Party keeps relying on narratives that just don't prove out. Wingus Dingus Jun 2025 #56

I'm a white woman and I was against it too. milestogo Jun 2025 #68

Karine Jean Pierre is leaving because they treated President Biden like shit LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2025 #70