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crimycarny

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28. It would not have mattered if there were zero border issues

Reply to Callie1979 (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 2, 2025, 09:21 PM

Jun 2025

US Deportations under Biden surpassed Trump's record. Under Biden, Congress created one of the most comprehensive and bipartisan bills in decades to address the border. Doing anything in a bipartisan matter these days is a miracle, let alone such a complex issue. Yet all it took was a phone call from Trump, and the bill went "poof".

I'm sick and tired of Democrats being held to an impossible standard while the GOP gets away with everything. Until we learn how to message better, the Democrats could bring about World Peace, cure cancer, and make everyone immortal, and none of that would matter unless the Democrats can figure out how to combat the constant lies from the GOP.

If Joe Biden had run on immigration, then Fox News would have pivoted to something else.

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Fetterman kisses Trump rump: "Democrats bungled border issue under Biden" [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2025 OP

Oh please. JBTaurus83 Jun 2025 #1

How soon we forget. kacekwl Jun 2025 #9

That wasn't until mid-2024 though Polybius Jun 2025 #33

I think Fetterman is kissing his Senate seat away. sinkingfeeling Jun 2025 #2

Leave now Rebl2 Jun 2025 #29

Fetterman can't be gone soon enough to suit me. Paladin Jun 2025 #42

I hope So. nt Cha Jun 2025 #61

Ok, so I've done my best to stay out of this mess, but really, Biden blew it? Biophilic Jun 2025 #3

the border issue is NOT about immigrants. it's about who the immigrants are nt msongs Jun 2025 #4

No, the border issue is about Fox News controlling the narrative. Initech Jun 2025 #20

There goes Grendel again eating his own party. nt miyazaki Jun 2025 #5

The border WAS a disaster. One of the biggest reasons for the loss Callie1979 Jun 2025 #6

And the border bill the republicans were going to Phoenix61 Jun 2025 #8

That was the last year. The first 3 years were inexcusable. Callie1979 Jun 2025 #11

It would not have mattered if there were zero border issues crimycarny Jun 2025 #28

Deportations only went up because crossings went way, way up Polybius Jun 2025 #35

At least SOMEBODY gets it. Here we are 7 months after the election. Callie1979 Jun 2025 #44

We're well aware the lies worked. blm Jun 2025 #60

The lies are ALWAYS there. I'm referring to the realities. Callie1979 Jun 2025 #68

Reality: Name and date Biden's policy' that 'opened the borders'. blm Jun 2025 #72

As I said, the lies are always there. Look at the NUMBERS Callie1979 Jun 2025 #73

It looks like they were high under GWB, falling under Obama, started climbing under TFG ... UpInArms Jun 2025 #51

They climbed under Trump in mid-2019, then started to significantly drop to a low point (before Covid) Polybius Jun 2025 #54

Republicans were on camera 24/7 telling the world that "Biden opened the borders." blm Jun 2025 #59

That doesn't explain the massive early jumps Polybius Jun 2025 #65

The WH media response to counter the lies was the failure. blm Jun 2025 #71

Because I believe they should have addressed the surges earlie Polybius Jun 2025 #74

I think the pictures in Texas and press conference of our admin trying to explain Melon Jun 2025 #67

What was 'inexcusable' in 'reality'? GOP lied 24/7 "Biden opened the borders" blm Jun 2025 #30

Well, compare the numbers. People see numbers they dont read articles. Callie1979 Jun 2025 #46

Every WH since Reagan had increased border crossings, including Trump. It was never anyone's fault till blm Jun 2025 #58

Not Obama n/t Polybius Jun 2025 #66

Increasing & exploding are two different meanings. And Obama didnt. Callie1979 Jun 2025 #69

The surge of 2018-19 did Trump open the borders? blm Jun 2025 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Polybius Jun 2025 #34

The current Nazi plan kacekwl Jun 2025 #10

Nowhere did I say that. But we have to see why we're here. Callie1979 Jun 2025 #13

The reason we are here is simple kacekwl Jun 2025 #53

Thank You for Explaining That So Well. nt Cha Jun 2025 #62

Furthering lies instead of countering them is a great use of citizenship. blm Jun 2025 #76

Because Fox News told their lackeys to blow up the bipartisan border bill. Initech Jun 2025 #21

I agree RJ-MacReady Jun 2025 #39

Exactly. A look at the polls proved it. Callie1979 Jun 2025 #45

it's disheartening RJ-MacReady Jun 2025 #47

What's disheartening is you inferring that democrats support "unfettered immigration" Solomon Jun 2025 #49

Of course it's a lie RJ-MacReady Jun 2025 #50

And like it or not, perception is reality. Callie1979 Jun 2025 #70

I agree. Most of the posts I saw on DU pinkstarburst Jun 2025 #57

Whose gonna be PA Senator NEXT??? elleng Jun 2025 #7

We have a strong bench in PA JBTaurus83 Jun 2025 #18

Good, but who's gonna DO it??? elleng Jun 2025 #22

At the rate Fetterman is imploding JBTaurus83 Jun 2025 #23

Fox News is scrambling his brain. Initech Jun 2025 #25

OK, this is happening enough to make me believe no_hypocrisy Jun 2025 #12

Trump Has Fetterman's Wife DET Jun 2025 #14

That sounds right to me. no_hypocrisy Jun 2025 #17

Brainworms talking, I've seen it before. nt ImNotGod Jun 2025 #15

I've pretty much supported open borders for people coming here for a better life. But think we would have won Silent Type Jun 2025 #16

NO THEY DID NOT!!! Initech Jun 2025 #19

Unfortunately, Biden's legislation was way too late to do any good in this respect. As I said upstream, Silent Type Jun 2025 #27

I still blame Fox for the mess that we're in. Initech Jun 2025 #31

I get it, but their best propaganda show has like 3 million viewers, not that many. I think it's stupid rubes, Silent Type Jun 2025 #32

Social media too. Initech Jun 2025 #37

Agree with social media. But social media is still by choice. I'm in some great groups on FB, but I spend Silent Type Jun 2025 #38

Devil's advocate: Baitball Blogger Jun 2025 #24

DINO ? republianmushroom Jun 2025 #26

The border was a mess. I tried to say on DU that Biden made a mistake, but was accused of not being a Democrat Wanderlust988 Jun 2025 #36

it would have removed it as a campaign issue RJ-MacReady Jun 2025 #40

I thought it was Republicans who blocked a border security bill. Emile Jun 2025 #41

They should not have waited until 2024 to present a border security bill Polybius Jun 2025 #55

Republicans have scuttled efforts to rewrite immigration laws repeatedly over the past two decades. Emile Jun 2025 #56

We didn't need Republicans in 2021 and 2022 Polybius Jun 2025 #64

We need to have a strong tough position on these issues JI7 Jun 2025 #43

Between now and 2028 we need to find another viable candidate for that Senate seat. Vinca Jun 2025 #48

Typical watching the rightwing blame the leftwing for the RW's own obstinance Torchlight Jun 2025 #52

"Conor Lamb Says Fetterman Isn't Meeting The Moment. AOC Is On His Side." Cha Jun 2025 #63

I have to agree with Federman the border was doc03 Jun 2025 #77