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bucolic_frolic

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2. The destruction of the principles of the Enlightenment is the biggest thing in the world

Fri Jan 17, 2025, 09:30 AM

Jan 17

since the development of gunpowder.

I could rationalize. It was all a delusion anyway, tolerance was never universal, we've always been constrained by trying to retain the fruits of our labor, capitalism made it all worse but look at the products we have and life expectancy is double what it was in 1830!

But now we have Oligarch rulers and economic inequality, wars continue, the Bill of Rights is shredded and look at SCOTUS-6-R !!

We're facing fascism if not Nazism but we've gotten this far and not a war yet! Could there be a war? It would be total destruction for both sides.

We march forward. We turn to each other for sustenance and survival, for goods and services. Ultimately we reject all that corporations throw at us. Internet too! This is not a human life. It's a horse-trader's marketplace. We need to weaken control from the top.

We have work to do! The OP needs to kick it in gear.

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I can't get past this! [View all] augyboston Jan 17 OP

You are not alone William769 Jan 17 #1

Agree BonnieJW Jan 17 #10

The destruction of the principles of the Enlightenment is the biggest thing in the world bucolic_frolic Jan 17 #2

There's one huge difference between now & similar past events. Climate change. CrispyQ Jan 17 #27

It's the death of hope. I am totally depressed. It sucks. I just can't quit feeling like life itself is over. BComplex Jan 17 #3

I take some comfort in the fact that the GOP majority in the House, surfered Jan 17 #4

Apparently, truth doesn't conquer deceit, and love doesn't conquer hate. Walleye Jan 17 #5

The worst for me was realizing Bettie Jan 17 #23

You are right, I knew it had always been there, but I always had hope it would get better. Not anymore. Walleye Jan 17 #24

Ah, but ForgedCrank Jan 17 #35

Absolutely! I feel on the edge of a deep dark despair over our dying nation. lark Jan 17 #6

The Twilight Zone yellow dahlia Jan 17 #7

Earlier... Artistree22 Jan 17 #28

Depression, anger, feeling lousy - this has become my new normal. The enormity of what the shitbird Deplorables just NoMoreRepugs Jan 17 #8

I'm trying to deal with it by thinking of spheres of control versus spheres of concern. Scrivener7 Jan 17 #9

Just let go and Tough Love. aeromanKC Jan 17 #11

The Hegseth and Bondi hearings scared the hell out of me Ohioboy Jan 17 #12

"The only thing that exceeds their ignorance is their arrogance." Mister Ed Jan 17 #13

Perhaps it would help to focus on our own ability not to see events differently but to control our reactions. Lonestarblue Jan 17 #14

Just survive. I'll make them mad. Festivito Jan 17 #15

If a predator is coming at you, you have a choice: DV1 Jan 17 #16

I doubt very seriously if Biden would do it but I'd love to see KS Toronado Jan 17 #17

Me too KS. We can hope 🩵 Clouds Passing Jan 17 #19

March and April are predicted to be chaotic. In the chaos they steal, basic thievery m.o. Clouds Passing Jan 17 #18

I think many Democrats feel the same way. I have my up and down days. Fla Dem Jan 17 #20

Yes, I agree with everything you said, except I am clinging to the hope that things get SO bad that the MAGAs wake up LaMouffette Jan 17 #21

the fact that the first Trump presidency failed to truly wake them up Skittles Jan 17 #34

No, it does not bode well at all. The rightwing propaganda brainwashing machine is incredibly powerful. Unless a new LaMouffette Jan 19 #39

honestly, the stupidity of people just floors me Skittles Jan 19 #40

They probably don't teach it anymore. And any teachers who try to teach critical thinking skills will be fired. LaMouffette Jan 20 #42

I've been doomy ever since I realized that we had lost... ananda Jan 17 #22

Same here. Artistree22 Jan 17 #29

It's past not pass .... live love laugh Jan 17 #25

Thanks bif Jan 17 #33

Yes Bayard Jan 17 #26

Move forward EarthAbides Jan 17 #30

I like this. Artistree22 Jan 17 #32

Yes Artistree22 Jan 17 #31

Between Rage and Despair DET Jan 17 #36

I'm tied in with groups that are determined to push back hard and try to make the erosion of summer_in_TX Jan 18 #37

Thoughts of an 85-year-old young_at_heart Jan 18 #38

I'm feeling angrier at this country every day DavidDvorkin Jan 19 #41