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augyboston

(279 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:16 AM 6 hrs ago

I can't get pass this!

As we get closer to the precipice aka the inauguration, I am feeling despair, fear and mostly anger.

I just can't get pass what these assholes did to our country on November 5th and I am damn pissed about it. They threw away our democracy, they shit on decency and they embraced pure fucking evil. To top it all off, they're gloating about it. The only thing that exceeds their ignorance is their arrogance.

The shit show that has transpired since the election is showing us all just what this is going to be like and yet, those that support replacing our democracy with an autocrat surrounded by oligarchs don't have a clue and those on our side who are rationalizing that this won't be that bad are delusional.

A healthy dose of cynicism is necessary at this point in time. I hate to sound overly negative, but I think what's coming is going to be monumentally bad.

Watching President Biden's farewell speech the other night felt like saying goodbye to our democracy and decency. It brought tears to my tired old eyes.

The past couple of weeks have been like one of those nightmares where a monster is coming for me, but I can't run and am only able to watch in slow motion as the evil beast descends on me.

Is anyone else feeling like all hope has been lost?

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I can't get pass this! (Original Post) augyboston 6 hrs ago OP
You are not alone William769 6 hrs ago #1
Agree BonnieJW 5 hrs ago #10
The destruction of the principles of the Enlightenment is the biggest thing in the world bucolic_frolic 5 hrs ago #2
There's one huge difference between now & similar past events. Climate change. CrispyQ 55 min ago #27
It's the death of hope. I am totally depressed. It sucks. I just can't quit feeling like life itself is over. BComplex 5 hrs ago #3
I take some comfort in the fact that the GOP majority in the House, surfered 5 hrs ago #4
Apparently, truth doesn't conquer deceit, and love doesn't conquer hate. Walleye 5 hrs ago #5
The worst for me was realizing Bettie 1 hr ago #23
You are right, I knew it had always been there, but I always had hope it would get better. Not anymore. Walleye 1 hr ago #24
Absolutely! I feel on the edge of a deep dark despair over our dying nation. lark 5 hrs ago #6
The Twilight Zone yellow dahlia 5 hrs ago #7
Earlier... Artistree22 53 min ago #28
Depression, anger, feeling lousy - this has become my new normal. The enormity of what the shitbird Deplorables just NoMoreRepugs 5 hrs ago #8
I'm trying to deal with it by thinking of spheres of control versus spheres of concern. Scrivener7 5 hrs ago #9
Just let go and Tough Love. aeromanKC 5 hrs ago #11
The Hegseth and Bondi hearings scared the hell out of me Ohioboy 4 hrs ago #12
"The only thing that exceeds their ignorance is their arrogance." Mister Ed 4 hrs ago #13
Perhaps it would help to focus on our own ability not to see events differently but to control our reactions. Lonestarblue 4 hrs ago #14
Just survive. I'll make them mad. Festivito 4 hrs ago #15
If a predator is coming at you, you have a choice: DV1 4 hrs ago #16
I doubt very seriously if Biden would do it but I'd love to see KS Toronado 4 hrs ago #17
Me too KS. We can hope 🩵 Clouds Passing 3 hrs ago #19
March and April are predicted to be chaotic. In the chaos they steal, basic thievery m.o. Clouds Passing 4 hrs ago #18
I think many Democrats feel the same way. I have my up and down days. Fla Dem 3 hrs ago #20
Yes, I agree with everything you said, except I am clinging to the hope that things get SO bad that the MAGAs wake up LaMouffette 3 hrs ago #21
I've been doomy ever since I realized that we had lost... ananda 3 hrs ago #22
Same here. Artistree22 46 min ago #29
It's past not pass .... live love laugh 1 hr ago #25
Yes Bayard 1 hr ago #26
Move forward EarthAbides 38 min ago #30
I like this. Artistree22 21 min ago #32
Yes Artistree22 24 min ago #31

BonnieJW

(2,648 posts)
10. Agree
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 09:21 AM
5 hrs ago

I think this country needs to sink under this clown. Fear is the best motivator and we need to feel that in order to abolish this magat shit once and for all.
This didn't happen last time and that's why he's back. This time, there are no guardrails and it's going to be crazy Town. People need to be frightened enough to landslide the dems in 2026.

bucolic_frolic

(47,958 posts)
2. The destruction of the principles of the Enlightenment is the biggest thing in the world
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:30 AM
5 hrs ago

since the development of gunpowder.

I could rationalize. It was all a delusion anyway, tolerance was never universal, we've always been constrained by trying to retain the fruits of our labor, capitalism made it all worse but look at the products we have and life expectancy is double what it was in 1830!

But now we have Oligarch rulers and economic inequality, wars continue, the Bill of Rights is shredded and look at SCOTUS-6-R !!

We're facing fascism if not Nazism but we've gotten this far and not a war yet! Could there be a war? It would be total destruction for both sides.

We march forward. We turn to each other for sustenance and survival, for goods and services. Ultimately we reject all that corporations throw at us. Internet too! This is not a human life. It's a horse-trader's marketplace. We need to weaken control from the top.

We have work to do! The OP needs to kick it in gear.

CrispyQ

(38,753 posts)
27. There's one huge difference between now & similar past events. Climate change.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:29 PM
55 min ago

Humanity's on a deadline that's getting shorter & shorter every year. I'm not sure we can even picture what's coming in 20 years, although for those who live it, it will be like frogs in a pot. I said before this election, that democracy will just get harder & harder to hold onto & this election made our hold even more tenuous. I haven't given up hope but the odds aren't in our favor. Our species is facing dark times.

BComplex

(9,193 posts)
3. It's the death of hope. I am totally depressed. It sucks. I just can't quit feeling like life itself is over.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:31 AM
5 hrs ago

No. You're not alone. America just FAFO'd, but the trump voters have always had their heads up their asses, so they won't figure it out .... they'll just believe that Joe Biden left us in terrible straights, and that the disaster will be all Joe's fault.

In North Carolina during the election, the republican party of North Carolina was sending out fliers that said Kamala Harris was going to take away Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid. That's when I saw the train coming right at us, and we were all tied to the railroad tracks.

surfered

(4,148 posts)
4. I take some comfort in the fact that the GOP majority in the House,
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:45 AM
5 hrs ago

…is so slim and they’re known to fight amongst themselves. Secondly, the filibuster still exists in the Senate and a couple of Senators are lame ducks, immune from Trump’s primary threats, including McConnell who doesn’t like Trump and holds sway with his colleagues.

Walleye

(36,897 posts)
5. Apparently, truth doesn't conquer deceit, and love doesn't conquer hate.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:46 AM
5 hrs ago

I said the other day I feel like this is an out of body experience. The “age of reason” has been completely displaced by the age of bullshit. And the ability to reason has been replaced by the ability to rationalize and make excuses.

Bettie

(17,499 posts)
23. The worst for me was realizing
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:38 PM
1 hr ago

that there are more nasty people than there are decent people. Racism and Misogyny are stronger than anything else.

Walleye

(36,897 posts)
24. You are right, I knew it had always been there, but I always had hope it would get better. Not anymore.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:39 PM
1 hr ago

lark

(24,410 posts)
6. Absolutely! I feel on the edge of a deep dark despair over our dying nation.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:52 AM
5 hrs ago

The America of the last few decades is gone, replaced by right wing fascism, greed and pure hate for the left and middle and poor classes. We are ok under todays' system, not on the brink of anything bad, but hair furher is bound and determined to destroy us. The only question is how far will he go and will we ever have another free and fair election or is all that gone with the ascendancy of eloon, pooty and grotesque orange.

Will they actually cut Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid when so many old white people that rely on these vote for them or will they give a fuck and let it be? Personally, we can't survive without them being retired as we are. Hubs is working part time to get good insurance because he needs a heart procedure and was goiing to retire full time afterwards. Will he be able to retire? My memory isn't great like it used to be and I can't go back to the high level I needed to do my job which was managing 3 departments at a large university medical billing place.

We are so fucked, I have no idea what it will even look like but I'm really freaked out about it. Don't want to watch, won't watch one second of regular tv Monday, streaming or silence and walking if I can, smoking pot to relieve anxiety and reading good escapist sci-fi. But after that, do i continue checking in here to see what's coming or just bury my head in fantasy and exercise? I almost feel compelled to watch, but since no one is protesting or doing anything to stop the roll, and there's nothing I can do personally other than boycott the trumpist and msm spew, I'm tending towards escapism until there is no escape at all. Then I will just try to survive or seriouly consider moving to another country.

yellow dahlia

(446 posts)
7. The Twilight Zone
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:52 AM
5 hrs ago

My thought every day. It is like the script of several Twilight Zones, all at once.

It started before the 2016 election.

And then - Covid...talk about Twilight Zone.

And now everywhere you look - another Twilight Zone episode with the Cabinet Secretary nominees.

And the denial of Climate Chaos, as we face apocalyptic fires and once in a thousand year storms.

Artistree22

(61 posts)
28. Earlier...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:31 PM
53 min ago

I feel this ongoing episode of our real life Twilight Zone started when the supreme court stopped the count and stole the election from Gore, then swift boated Kerry, tea party, birtherism BS and then the orange assface himself was hoisted upon us by putin, then of course "her E-mails" and the theft of the election from Hillary and now the theft from Kamala and sudden injection of Leon 's influence in right wing.

Yes, I believe 2024 was stolen through a series of actions not just at ballot box. They all knew that he had it in the bag. You could see it in real time and no one was focusing on his bizarro behavior at those last rallies. The media could have taken him down just over the one where he had a town hall but didn't answer questions and just played music and the one where the said he would be our protector whether we liked it or not. The Media failed this country because they are for profits not for us.
Yes, surreal times.
NO MEDIA MONDAY.

NoMoreRepugs

(10,732 posts)
8. Depression, anger, feeling lousy - this has become my new normal. The enormity of what the shitbird Deplorables just
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:54 AM
5 hrs ago

did seems to dominate my day and I’m hard pressed to escape it.

Scrivener7

(53,495 posts)
9. I'm trying to deal with it by thinking of spheres of control versus spheres of concern.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:57 AM
5 hrs ago

While staying loosely informed, I'm trying to limit my concern about things I have no control over, and maximize my attention on things I can control.

For example, people pooh-pooh the idea of not shopping in Amazon, or not using Facebook and Instagram and X. My use of Amazon (I've never used social media) is a drop in an ocean. But my use of it is what I have control over. It's something I can do. So I'm going to do it. I'm trying to look at everything that way.

Another example: I don't have to listen to every trolling comment the felon puts out there. So I won't. I have no control over what he'll say. I have control over what I'll take in. I'll watch what he does and, as much as possible, ignore what he says.

We can only put one foot in front of the other, and the only choices we have are where we'll place those feet.

You can get through this. May we all find some peace.

aeromanKC

(3,516 posts)
11. Just let go and Tough Love.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 09:22 AM
5 hrs ago

GOP has broke it, they buy this mess and we just sit back and watch them take America to the bottom. We offered an intervention and treatment, but they refused to accept the help. America cannot grow into the future until we hit rock bottom. It's going to take a generation. Germany did it so can we. (Well, you guys will. I'll be dead) Now off to do the things that make me happy with the few years I have left.

Ohioboy

(3,543 posts)
12. The Hegseth and Bondi hearings scared the hell out of me
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 09:30 AM
4 hrs ago

The childish way they evaded questions on basic Constitutional rights was disgusting!

Lonestarblue

(12,056 posts)
14. Perhaps it would help to focus on our own ability not to see events differently but to control our reactions.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 09:47 AM
4 hrs ago

This quote from a Buddhist nun and teacher speaks to me. It isn’t that we can’t be angry or depressed but that we can try to manage our mental and emotional feelings.

"Inner peace begins the moment you choose not to allow another person or event to control your emotions.” Pema Chodron, US-born Tibetan Buddhist

DV1

(97 posts)
16. If a predator is coming at you, you have a choice:
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:07 AM
4 hrs ago

Submit to it, or eliminate the predator.

KS Toronado

(19,990 posts)
17. I doubt very seriously if Biden would do it but I'd love to see
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:17 AM
4 hrs ago

him pull Martial law out of the hat at the last minute and catch everybody off guard. Then educate
the public that the Jack Smith report proves tsf is a traitor for informing Putin who our secret agents
were and for giving him top secret documents.

Then announce a new Presidential election in 30 days.

Fla Dem

(26,033 posts)
20. I think many Democrats feel the same way. I have my up and down days.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:36 AM
3 hrs ago

I try to stay positive, but often i find myself thinking, especially when I'm by myself, thinking about how the USA will survive and if we'll ever get back to the country most of us love.

Being on the border of senior/ elder I worry about what kind of country my family who will live after me, will live in.

LaMouffette

(2,327 posts)
21. Yes, I agree with everything you said, except I am clinging to the hope that things get SO bad that the MAGAs wake up
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:47 AM
3 hrs ago

and realize that they've been deceived all along by Rump, the GOP, FoxNews, and rightwing radio and social media.

Talk about a thin hope to cling to! But it's all I got. Oh, and hope in a future generation of college students who might rise up in protests, as in the 1960s and '70s.

And yes, I hate to actually hope that things get brutally awful, but it is what it will take to get the MAGAs to wake the hell up.

ananda

(31,053 posts)
22. I've been doomy ever since I realized that we had lost...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:58 AM
3 hrs ago

the climate change battle.

That was after Al Gore lost.

Artistree22

(61 posts)
29. Same here.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:38 PM
46 min ago

Just think where we could have been if Gore had rightfully been our president. It's sickening really to think that we take one step forward and 2-4 steps backwards now.

EarthAbides

(139 posts)
30. Move forward
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:46 PM
38 min ago

Pay attention to the upcoming train wreck, but let it go. Buy a professional slingshot and practice. Life is going to change, be ready.

Artistree22

(61 posts)
32. I like this.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:03 PM
21 min ago

So funny, I was just thinking recently that I really wanted one and may make one until I can get a good one.. I loved making them as a kid.
Also practice my nunchucks, martial arts, grow my garden, learn to like fishing again, most of all - make time for good people in my life.

Artistree22

(61 posts)
31. Yes
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:00 PM
24 min ago

It's gonna be ugly for sure. Our ancestors survived struggles beyond our imaginations and we will survive this.

It's gonna be hardest for those who have the least already and we need to channel our energies locally and focus on building our communities of neighbors and friends.

Outrage overload is a thing BUT we can choose how much we consume. Look at media like hard liquor, NEVER in the morning and limited consumption or no consumption for a happier/healthier self.

Yesterday, I checked in here and the first thing I saw was an article about how SNAP benefits were going to be cut as well as other social programs that help the poor/children. They want to force birth but no help. Anyway, I was in a bad mood the rest of the day. These cuts may or may not happen but ultimately I have decide if I want every outrageous thing they say to affect me. The only way is less and sometimes no consumption of news/media and even my daily DU.

I'm going to hold on to the hope in our new crop of young reps and our senators will hold down the fort the best that they can. They are smarter than the r-wingers after all. What can I do that they can't do within the workings of our government?
We need to be mentally strong and any addictions (News junkie is an addiction) will only make our struggles harder.
love n peace

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