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C0RI0LANUS

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68. Hi LeftinTX. How have you been?

Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:15 AM

11 hrs ago

Good points. But the post-9/11 hysteria and Islamophobia helped GWB in 2004. During the Iran hostage crisis I seem to recall the MSM portraying Pres. Carter as weak. After the end of the Cold War, Islamophobia seems to have become part of the playbook for the rightwing in many countries.

Anyways, to paraphrase a famous son of Texas about the antiwar bloc:

"I'd rather have them sumbitches inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in."

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Just in a state or two JustAnotherGen 21 hrs ago #1

Memories of the Bernie debacle in 2016 - we never seem to learn from out mistakes. walkingman 20 hrs ago #2

St. Bern fucked himself in 2016 Blue_Tires 19 hrs ago #9

My point was that many people got their feelings hurt and didn't vote in the election. walkingman 17 hrs ago #31

And now they've giftwrapped TWO terms to King Donnie Blue_Tires 4 hrs ago #80

Amen! JustAnotherGen 18 hrs ago #20

Retaining white, anglo Christian male power was the issue GoreWon2000 20 hrs ago #3

As a White Anglo woman it sure as hell Disturbs, and Disgusts me! electric_blue68 7 hrs ago #74

Screw this. Come back in four years kacekwl 20 hrs ago #4

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Correct Cosmocat 6 hrs ago #77

Whatever Biden was going to do about the Israel-Gaza war, he was going to lose votes. Intractable 20 hrs ago #6

He wouldn't have lost Jewish votes unless he was anti semitic JI7 19 hrs ago #12

I don't agree with your statements. Intractable 19 hrs ago #15

I said most Jewish voters. Not all. JI7 19 hrs ago #16

You are not a good source of information for me. Intractable 19 hrs ago #17

It's not about losing Jewish votes...it's about losing enough Jewish votes. Self Esteem 19 hrs ago #18

Doubtful that is enough there are only about 6 million Jewish adults in the US and obviously not all of them voted. EdmondDantes_ 16 hrs ago #40

Doubtful enough what? Self Esteem 15 hrs ago #44

You said it was about losing enough Jewish votes EdmondDantes_ 5 hrs ago #79

I suspect the Democrats lost more "Jewish" votes on economic issues, Jack Valentino 14 hrs ago #47

Israel has always been our worst enemy because we refuse to believe that from a foreign policy perspective. Jit423 13 hrs ago #61

There are also a lot of people who support Israel because they see it as our main ally in the ME. LeftInTX 17 hrs ago #28

Yes, indeed. And also many, who support Israel for non-Jewish religious, eschatological, evangelical, end-times reasons. Intractable 17 hrs ago #33

Yeah, but they aren't independent voters that we're trying to court. However, there are plenty of moderates LeftInTX 17 hrs ago #34

And probably MORE "moderates" who voted the cost of eggs and a bag of Doritos. Jack Valentino 14 hrs ago #49

Thank-you. JohnSJ 13 hrs ago #64

there was one card he could have played that you hint at cadoman 15 hrs ago #45

The poll was conducted by The Institute for Middle East Understanding, a pro-Palestinian foreign-policy advocacy Galraedia 20 hrs ago #7

The poll was conducted by YouGov. Ms. Toad 13 hrs ago #62

Harris got 6 million fewer votes than Biden in 2020: 75 million to 81 million. maxsolomon 19 hrs ago #8

Cutting off their nose to spite their face Blue_Tires 19 hrs ago #11

The Muslim vote was lost before the current conflict JI7 19 hrs ago #14

The young voters. They have been out in the streets every weekend womanofthehills 17 hrs ago #24

Why did they stop after the election? LeftInTX 17 hrs ago #26

social media are informed on Gaza at a level that TV viewers don't understand cadoman 14 hrs ago #52

Pro Palestine protesters outside state dept today womanofthehills 13 hrs ago #57

Don't hold me to these statistics... Marigold 17 hrs ago #32

Useful idiots, all of them... Blue_Tires 19 hrs ago #10

what EVER the fucking reason means now we have to live YoshidaYui 19 hrs ago #13

More denialism Comrade Citizen 18 hrs ago #19

they have the right to vote stopdiggin 17 hrs ago #22

Nope Comrade Citizen 17 hrs ago #23

Yep. stopdiggin 17 hrs ago #25

Typical Comrade Citizen 17 hrs ago #27

your the one that framed the arguement around Women of Color stopdiggin 13 hrs ago #55

Heard it all before Comrade Citizen 13 hrs ago #59

well, you didn't here it here stopdiggin 12 hrs ago #66

de rec, especially for the blatantly false claim: Celerity 17 hrs ago #29

correction Comrade Citizen 17 hrs ago #30

that was not the only error, there is no American State that has this: Celerity 17 hrs ago #38

umm... Comrade Citizen 17 hrs ago #39

I am not being hostile, I am just calling out falsehoods in your initial claim (that you are now trying to revise, btw) Celerity 16 hrs ago #41

Here is a truth that can't be denied Comrade Citizen 16 hrs ago #42

Sadly,she got less of the POC vote then Biden did in 2020 Kaleva 15 hrs ago #46

VP Harris was just too good for the US Comrade Citizen 14 hrs ago #48

+1 Kaleva 14 hrs ago #50

which has nothing to do with your original statement. ZonkerHarris 14 hrs ago #51

for every vote that shifted in response to Gaza stopdiggin 18 hrs ago #21

I disagreed with this at first... cadoman 14 hrs ago #54

My Gen Z kids reluctantly voted for Biden. Sky Jewels 17 hrs ago #35

I can't even count people I personally know who refused to vote based on Gaza vanessa_ca 13 hrs ago #63

I blame the spewing of false genocide ZRB 8 hrs ago #72

False genocide? Sky Jewels 4 hrs ago #81

Tell that to Hamas ZRB 3 hrs ago #82

Americans are idiots, that was the number one reason. dem4decades 17 hrs ago #36

GOP Contributions from Conservative Billionaires was just as huge. Rhiagel 17 hrs ago #37

That makes no sense at all. The felon is going to give Gaza to Jared Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #43

October 7 is Putin's birthday YorkRd 14 hrs ago #53

No. Not enough people bothered to vote. Gaza didn't mean squat in this election. valleyrogue 13 hrs ago #56

Yeah, I don't think it made much of a difference. LeftInTX 13 hrs ago #58

Ah the traditional six month period qazplm135 13 hrs ago #60

The Democratic Party should heed the call of the antiwar elements in the US. C0RI0LANUS 12 hrs ago #65

In 1972, we did. It did not turn out well..... LeftInTX 11 hrs ago #67

Hi LeftinTX. How have you been? C0RI0LANUS 11 hrs ago #68

McGovern really supported the Vietnam protesters and ending the war. It did not go well: 1972 LeftInTX 11 hrs ago #69

But you are not pro-war yourself, right? C0RI0LANUS 11 hrs ago #70

I don't believe running against the war would have helped. We would have been seen as pro-terrorist. LeftInTX 10 hrs ago #71

The Democratic Party needs to run away from... ZRB 8 hrs ago #73

I was Anti-War in '68... electric_blue68 6 hrs ago #75

Hi electric_blue68. You were antiwar but supported HHH. I am antiwar and voted for Kamala. Democracy at work. C0RI0LANUS 6 hrs ago #76

Nope, not even close. Littlered 5 hrs ago #78

Another nixon/vietnam treason. Another reagan/iranhostages treason. It works. Clouds Passing 3 hrs ago #83