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In reply to the discussion: America needs to suffer [View all]
Irish_Dem
(77,240 posts)100. Good point.
Germany changed, and enacted tough laws against Nazis.
But did they do it on their own, or because the allies insisted?
Yes perhaps it was more that they were stopped, not really changed.
For example psychopaths like Trump and Putin will never never change.
They can only be stopped and prevented from harming others.
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Sad but true. Most alcoholics and addicts won't get sober until they hit bottom...
johnnyplankton
Jan 2025
#48
I think the MAGAs will sit at the bottom blaming everyone else until they die.
Irish_Dem
Jan 2025
#81
I agree wholeheartedly. After 40 years of being a therapist, I am not sure I would want to hear
state of stupid
Jan 2025
#94
Some Nazis changed when looking down the barrel of a gun held by an American GI.
Irish_Dem
Jan 2025
#83
Are you sure they changed or did they change into camouflage and go underground?
state of stupid
Jan 2025
#99
there is that. Was all Clinton's fault or Obama's fault or Bidens' fault. RW smear 24/7 all over radio and "social"
Evolve Dammit
Jan 2025
#76
Let's Not Forget, even if it was not done well enough to prosper, and continue past a few years...
electric_blue68
Jan 2025
#111
Listened all the time until they folded. Still getting Democracy Now! on a local radio station. Wish there was more.
Evolve Dammit
Jan 2025
#119
I agree and disagree. Our lives are a time to learn and make mistakes, but do mistakes have to
in2herbs
Jan 2025
#3
half of our country is extremely selfish and has absolutely no empathy for anyone else. They couldn't care less, until
Meadowoak
Jan 2025
#42
"do mistakes have to involve pain and suffering in order to learn our lessons?" - not always, but these mistakes will
0rganism
Jan 2025
#69
And this will be the way if something should happen to tRUMP, he passes away from some ailment of the stomach,
SWBTATTReg
Jan 2025
#41
I don't think the suffering will teach anybody anything, all we can hope and work for is a pendulum swing
thebigidea
Jan 2025
#15
When life gets harder for them and they are suffering they'll still listen to right wing media who will tell them it's
kimbutgar
Jan 2025
#17
I don't think people will wake the fuck up, they will find more different bogeymen
RockRaven
Jan 2025
#18
That's not necessarily true. I know MAGATS who are snowflake whimps holding onto blind faith that Papa Trump will
Martin68
Jan 2025
#37
You misunderstand. My comment has nothing to do with collective guilt or atoning. This has to do with the
Scrivener7
Jan 2025
#105
Yes, I'm beginning to think Americans need to suffer before they come to their senses and reject MAGA.
Martin68
Jan 2025
#31
And when they complain simply say "I didn't vote for him so don't b***h to me"
appleannie1
Jan 2025
#33
The Deplorable voter wants what he/she are TOLD to want - no amount of suffering is going to change a thing.
NoMoreRepugs
Jan 2025
#39
let it all go down. all go down and then they will whine and pine on how good they had it. my late mom
AllaN01Bear
Jan 2025
#45
Whatever success powerful right-wing propaganda has in convincing Americans
Stargleamer
Jan 2025
#54
Agree...but, those of us who understand what's coming can take steps now to mitigate the pain and suffering
PortTack
Jan 2025
#61
The Republican campaign against being "woke" is their way of masking their intent and actions.
patphil
Jan 2025
#64
What people fail to grasp is any suffering that happens will be blamed on the Democrats, and unfortunately under fascist
JohnSJ
Jan 2025
#106
That is correct. Sadly the most vulnerable people will suffer more than the rest.
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 2025
#107
One way or another, tens of millions of voters need to learn the lesson that
Martin Eden
Jan 2025
#108
"Needs to Suffer"? [sorry, Earl G]. Screw you, OP. Many have Suffered ENOUGH, already!
electric_blue68
Jan 2025
#113
Your Second sentence DOESN'T Matter you're still pushing for suffering that will affect So Many that are Not Magats!
electric_blue68
Jan 2025
#123
The phrase "Needs to" is NOT a Nuetral phrase. IF you had said, "I Expect America to suffer", that's nuetral.
electric_blue68
Jan 2025
#125
Kinda too late, but I think they need to suffer somehow, bc their votes electing him will, imho, bring....
electric_blue68
Jan 2025
#130
Sadly i agree. Once the MAGA fools satisfy some of their hate lust against
travelingthrulife
Jan 2025
#116
It would be interesting to see who they blame after they deport all the immigrants
tulipsandroses
Jan 2025
#127