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patphil

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64. The Republican campaign against being "woke" is their way of masking their intent and actions.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 04:00 PM
22 hrs ago

They want their base to be asleep when it comes to what's going on in the United States.
They want their zombified base to allow their rulers to tell them what to see, what to hear, how to feel, what to believe, how to act, and, most importantly who to hate.
And these zombified Magats are more than willing to surrender their consciousness to their Republican masters. It's easier to go through life if you don't have to make hard decisions, and have ready made scapegoats to blame when things don't go well in your life.

So, suffering is inevitable when you give up any chance of actually living your own life. For many of them, truth can only break through when their pain overrides this desire to have others live their lives for them.
This is a lesson of love that so many people have not been able to learn. For them hate is easier, and, when others direct your hate, it feels so consequence free.
But then the actuality of life is patient, and can eventually break down those barriers, forcing many people to confront their false realities.
I should point out that, as far as Magats are concerned, most of them will never wake up, and effectively die long before their actual death. Zombie life is so shallow.

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America needs to suffer [View all] edhopper Yesterday OP
Yes it has to be a steep learning curve for lessons to be learned. Irish_Dem Yesterday #1
Yes bdamomma Yesterday #5
Yes we lived in a sort of golden age and didn't know it or appreciate it. Irish_Dem Yesterday #13
Nothing is ever enough for the greedy billionaire elites meow2u3 22 hrs ago #67
They won't stop until they have every last cent. Blue Full Moon 21 hrs ago #77
Nothing will ever fill the holes in their souls. Irish_Dem 21 hrs ago #88
Always thought this song summed it up Blue Full Moon 21 hrs ago #92
well said Evolve Dammit 21 hrs ago #74
or a "big swift kick in the ass with reality." Evolve Dammit 21 hrs ago #73
Sad but true. Most alcoholics and addicts won't get sober until they hit bottom... johnnyplankton 22 hrs ago #48
I don't know if the MAGAs hit bottom they will learn anything. Irish_Dem 22 hrs ago #59
Then they have not reached bottom. state of stupid 22 hrs ago #68
I think the MAGAs will sit at the bottom blaming everyone else until they die. Irish_Dem 21 hrs ago #81
It's a cult. Mariana 21 hrs ago #86
I agree wholeheartedly. After 40 years of being a therapist, I am not sure I would want to hear state of stupid 20 hrs ago #94
I truly loved my job. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #95
What to do about the Trump cult? Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #97
Some Nazis changed when looking down the barrel of a gun held by an American GI. Irish_Dem 21 hrs ago #83
What did they change though? Cirsium 19 hrs ago #98
Good point. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #100
Most walked Cirsium 19 hrs ago #104
Are you sure they changed or did they change into camouflage and go underground? state of stupid 19 hrs ago #99
Yes good point, they are back. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #102
there is that. Was all Clinton's fault or Obama's fault or Bidens' fault. RW smear 24/7 all over radio and "social" Evolve Dammit 21 hrs ago #76
It's all the fault of people who pee in the wrong bathroom. Irish_Dem 21 hrs ago #84
Let's Not Forget, even if it was not done well enough to prosper, and continue past a few years... electric_blue68 13 hrs ago #111
Listened all the time until they folded. Still getting Democracy Now! on a local radio station. Wish there was more. Evolve Dammit 3 hrs ago #119
Agree with you yankee87 21 hrs ago #82
And so we shall, and the rest of the world with us 0rganism Yesterday #2
Make it a double. rubbersole 23 hrs ago #43
I agree and disagree. Our lives are a time to learn and make mistakes, but do mistakes have to in2herbs Yesterday #3
"negative fashion" bdamomma Yesterday #6
Well America just exercised their free will edhopper Yesterday #8
It would be a lovely world if that were the case, but I'm skeptical. MLAA 23 hrs ago #24
half of our country is extremely selfish and has absolutely no empathy for anyone else. They couldn't care less, until Meadowoak 23 hrs ago #42
It will affect them. bdamomma 22 hrs ago #50
They think their lives will change on day one. Demobrat 21 hrs ago #78
"do mistakes have to involve pain and suffering in order to learn our lessons?" - not always, but these mistakes will 0rganism 22 hrs ago #69
I hate to agree but I do. And the worse it is, the quicker it will be over. Scrivener7 Yesterday #4
Be careful what you wish for inwiththenew Yesterday #7
We already have the fascists in power edhopper Yesterday #10
People aren't alseep Cirsium Yesterday #12
Some will take it as a sign... Beck23 23 hrs ago #25
oh bdamomma 22 hrs ago #58
The thought Has crossed my mind.... electric_blue68 13 hrs ago #112
And if kkmarie 22 hrs ago #63
How to Win Friends and Influence People Prairie Gates Yesterday #9
That might not work Cirsium Yesterday #11
Some Germans even... Beck23 23 hrs ago #30
And this will be the way if something should happen to tRUMP, he passes away from some ailment of the stomach, SWBTATTReg 23 hrs ago #41
I watched a documentary a few years back. WinstonSmith4740 22 hrs ago #51
They knew Cirsium 19 hrs ago #96
Oh, hell yes. WinstonSmith4740 19 hrs ago #101
I heard this same argument on Election Night 2016 from a Millenial. maxsolomon Yesterday #14
Yep. red don killed hundreds of thousands not fooled 23 hrs ago #21
I would ammend that and say "truth has no counter" jgmiller 22 hrs ago #60
I don't think the suffering will teach anybody anything, all we can hope and work for is a pendulum swing thebigidea 23 hrs ago #15
Propaganda Johnny2X2X 23 hrs ago #16
when you have to decide between rent and medicine Skittles 21 hrs ago #79
"Paychecks" Johnny2X2X 21 hrs ago #89
for DECADES I said, not since BIDEN Skittles 21 hrs ago #90
Fair enough Johnny2X2X 5 hrs ago #114
When life gets harder for them and they are suffering they'll still listen to right wing media who will tell them it's kimbutgar 23 hrs ago #17
Blaming someone else is always easier than thinking . . . hatrack 4 hrs ago #115
I don't think people will wake the fuck up, they will find more different bogeymen RockRaven 23 hrs ago #18
I tend to agree Redleg 15 hrs ago #110
WTFU jeffreyi 23 hrs ago #19
It was mentioned in another post, the descendants of the confederacy are back dlk 23 hrs ago #20
Suffering will only make MAGATs crazier, more volent Bobstandard 23 hrs ago #22
I posted something similar a few weeks ago Takket 23 hrs ago #23
Hard For Them To Wake Up Mr.Bee 23 hrs ago #26
I'm afraid you are right Americanme 23 hrs ago #27
Read "Dying of Whiteness" AverageOldGuy 23 hrs ago #28
That's not necessarily true. I know MAGATS who are snowflake whimps holding onto blind faith that Papa Trump will Martin68 23 hrs ago #37
EXACTLY Blue_Tires 23 hrs ago #38
You first.. whathehell 23 hrs ago #29
There's no "you first." It's going to be all of us. But it is inevitable. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #72
Yea, actually there is.. whathehell 20 hrs ago #93
You misunderstand. My comment has nothing to do with collective guilt or atoning. This has to do with the Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #105
Yes, I'm beginning to think Americans need to suffer before they come to their senses and reject MAGA. Martin68 23 hrs ago #31
The dumbing down of America has suceeded! 3825-87867 23 hrs ago #32
And when they complain simply say "I didn't vote for him so don't b***h to me" appleannie1 23 hrs ago #33
Trump will simply double down and blame it all on Blue_Tires 23 hrs ago #34
People in prison suffer. milestogo 23 hrs ago #35
The MAGAs will just blame it all on Biden. fierywoman 23 hrs ago #36
The Deplorable voter wants what he/she are TOLD to want - no amount of suffering is going to change a thing. NoMoreRepugs 23 hrs ago #39
Sorry, not sorry. WinstonSmith4740 23 hrs ago #40
It will have to affect them personally Macrophylla 23 hrs ago #44
let it all go down. all go down and then they will whine and pine on how good they had it. my late mom AllaN01Bear 23 hrs ago #45
Trump 2.0 could be worse bmichaelh 22 hrs ago #46
Agree! Facts and reason aren't working because.... perdita9 22 hrs ago #47
Climate change will make sure we will suffer Kaleva 22 hrs ago #49
You're not alone in your thoughts. egduj 22 hrs ago #52
Ralph Nader mentioned that way back when. I know GPV 22 hrs ago #53
Whatever success powerful right-wing propaganda has in convincing Americans Stargleamer 22 hrs ago #54
Only certain minds Keepthesoulalive 21 hrs ago #85
Much of America already does. WhiskeyGrinder 22 hrs ago #55
Glad to see somebody's wish is bound to come true. (nt) Paladin 22 hrs ago #56
I agree but lapfog_1 22 hrs ago #57
Agree...but, those of us who understand what's coming can take steps now to mitigate the pain and suffering PortTack 22 hrs ago #61
Some will wake up TexasBushwhacker 22 hrs ago #62
The Republican campaign against being "woke" is their way of masking their intent and actions. patphil 22 hrs ago #64
Indeed! 100% cer7711 22 hrs ago #65
Anything bad they blame on Democrats NameAlreadyTaken 22 hrs ago #66
Rec Evolve Dammit 21 hrs ago #70
Not sure America will connect the right dots. CountMyVote4Reality 21 hrs ago #71
Agreed. hadEnuf 21 hrs ago #75
I agree OP ThePartyThatListens 21 hrs ago #80
This sounds like it comes from a position of privilege erodriguez 21 hrs ago #87
Or somebody edhopper 17 hrs ago #109
In Jesus' name though. So... czarjak 21 hrs ago #91
We will, whether we need to or not. Ocelot II 19 hrs ago #103
What people fail to grasp is any suffering that happens will be blamed on the Democrats, and unfortunately under fascist JohnSJ 18 hrs ago #106
That is correct. Sadly the most vulnerable people will suffer more than the rest. Oopsie Daisy 18 hrs ago #107
One way or another, tens of millions of voters need to learn the lesson that Martin Eden 18 hrs ago #108
Well... "Needs to"? [sorry, Earl G]...Screw U, OP... if that draws your ire...fine. electric_blue68 13 hrs ago #113
America has suffered enough. Kid Berwyn 4 hrs ago #117
My second sentence; edhopper 4 hrs ago #118
Sadly i agree. Once the MAGA fools satisfy some of their hate lust against travelingthrulife 4 hrs ago #116
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