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Johnny2X2X

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31. I was sitting at a bar a few months ago
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 03:27 PM
Jan 16

Have known my bartender for over a decade, really nice lady. The conversation turned to minimum wage, she knows I'm a lefty so she asks, "What do you think minimu wage should be?" I said, I'm not sure, but at least enough for entry level workers to do as well as I did wokring my first jobs in the 80s." My guess is $15 or $16 here in Michigan. Then some people strarted talking about how much fast food costs these days, "The bartender says to me, so you're willing to pay a buck more per item so the workers there can make $16 or $16 an hour." She said it like a "gotcha." The irony of what she said ws completely lost on her until I answered, "Well, i am literally paying you a buck more per beer so you can get by and earn a living, so I guess the answer to that is yes." She's not a righty or anything, just one of the people who believes what she hears on TV. She was really worried about the tipped minimum wage going up in Michigan, I said to her, "You're still getting the same buck or two per beer tip from me regardless of what your hourly rate is and even if the base price of the beer goes up."

And don't get me wrong, I respect bartending as a profession, I've bartended, if you're competent at it, you can make a living doing it. But I go to a dive bar, this isn't some mixologist, she wroks at a dive bar during the day. She knows how to mix a hand full of drinks, pour beers, and wash the counter, it's not rocket surgery, but I and the rest of the regulars are more than happy to tip her well so she can take care of herself and her kid. But apparently fastfood workers don't deserve the same dignity as bartenders do.

And this is what Cons have done for 50 years now, they get working people to think other working people getting a little more are the problem. Look at the disdain you hear from non union workers towards union workers. Every good union contract gets met with jeers. Ford or Stelantis laying off laying off a thousand or so people and you hear, "See, that fatcat union contract cost people their jobs." All of the people working to make ends meet target other working people. And it goes to every profession. People will say teacher's get too good of benefits. People get mad college professors are making 6 figures. I even see it in my own building where production is jealous of us in engineering. Like we in engineering aren't a lot closer to the people on the shop floor in values and work ethic than we are to the guys in the corner offices at corporate headquarters or the board room. We're all just working stiffs, hoping to save enough to retire with a little bit of dignity.

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k and r BoRaGard Jan 16 #1
Kick n/t defacto7 Jan 16 #2
Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg to receive a key perk on Inauguration Day LetMyPeopleVote Jan 16 #3
"prominent place at Inauguration"? Muck won't have hand on bible, he'll have it inside, rewriting it for X. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 16 #4
He'll have his hand BigMin28 Jan 16 #7
They are going to sit on the platform with the cabinet??? Peacetrain Jan 16 #5
More like... 2naSalit Jan 16 #16
May 1 in Red Square in the old USSR DFW Jan 17 #40
I have something in common with them! A nine-figure net worth!!! COL Mustard Jan 16 #35
12 figure net worths Lucky Luciano Jan 17 #41
There's a big portion of the country that is pretty far gone Johnny2X2X Jan 16 #6
Republicans have been working for 40 years to make people stupider about how money works, BComplex Jan 16 #30
I was sitting at a bar a few months ago Johnny2X2X Jan 16 #31
They say teachers get paid too much, but Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 17 #39
KnR!! iluvtennis Jan 16 #8
We need to revive TR's expression, "Malefactors of great wealth" ... few phrases better describe the "tech bro" eppur_se_muova Jan 16 #9
They didn't listen to Eisenhower AncientOfDays Jan 16 #10
foggy Tetrachloride Jan 16 #11
Sure hope our progressive leaders were listening. Magoo48 Jan 16 #12
Same thing. True Blue American Jan 16 #13
We each need to find small ways to RESIST. Joinfortmill Jan 16 #14
Yes, yes, yes. Magoo48 Jan 16 #20
Proud to add the first "rec"! calimary Jan 16 #21
The orange maniac is extremely jealous of Muskie and Co. louis-t Jan 16 #15
Nothing changed under his tenure ThePartyThatListens Jan 16 #17
Then why didn't he and the other corporate Dems moonbeam23 Jan 16 #18
Yeah, get back to us with the "namby-bamby," a year from now. Paladin Jan 16 #19
The bashers are out in full-force today. Politicub Jan 16 #27
Bezos, Musk and Zuck are forever sullied by their obsequiousness to the Orange Asshole SpankMe Jan 16 #22
The Biden Admin didn't see any trouble with giving Musk DoD contracts erodriguez Jan 16 #23
So many contracts Falcon101 Jan 16 #25
Biden's speech yesterday was tearful for me. riversedge Jan 16 #24
The president is a skillful leader and knows the power of the bully pulpit Politicub Jan 16 #26
How much they hate us, that's what shocks me. They are willling to suffer themselves to watch us lose and be miserable. Peregrine Took Jan 16 #28
Exactly How? Frank D. Lincoln Jan 16 #29
Making the wealthy play by the rules is what Limbaugh used to call "punishing success" -- because... Beartracks Jan 16 #32
Nice words, but there wasn't one single act to rein in these oligarchs Bluetus Jan 16 #33
Elon Musk will have office space at the White House complex LetMyPeopleVote Jan 16 #34
this is what i have been saying all along. pay your fair share and that goes to the wealthy corperations too also. AllaN01Bear Jan 16 #36
k&r n/t markie Jan 16 #37
Shades of Eisenhower's Military Industrial Complex warning Dem4life1970 Jan 16 #38
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