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Peacetrain

(23,850 posts)
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:45 AM Jan 16

This is what floored me yesterday in Pres. Bidens speech..

It literally hurt my soul. It is something we have been talking about at our house for a few years now.. How money is the ruling factor is so many decisions..

"That’s why my farewell address tonight, I want to warn the country of some things that give me great concern. And this is a dangerous — and that’s the dangerous concentration of power in the hands of a very few ultrawealthy people, and the dangerous consequences if their abuse of power is left unchecked. Today, an oligarchy is taking shape in America of extreme wealth, power and influence that literally threatens our entire democracy, our basic rights and freedoms and a fair shot for everyone to get ahead. We see the consequences all across America. And we’ve seen it before.

More than a century ago, the American people stood up to the robber barons back then and busted the trusts. They didn’t punish the wealthy. They just made the wealthy play by the rules everybody else had. Workers want rights to earn their fair share. You know, they were dealt into the deal, and it helped put us on the path to building the largest middle class, the most prosperous century any nation the world has ever seen. We’ve got to do that again."

dalton99a has the full text up .. it might possibly be the most consequential speech from an outgoing President that I have ever heard..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219907798


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This is what floored me yesterday in Pres. Bidens speech.. (Original Post) Peacetrain Jan 16 OP
k and r BoRaGard Jan 16 #1
Kick n/t defacto7 Jan 16 #2
Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg to receive a key perk on Inauguration Day LetMyPeopleVote Jan 16 #3
"prominent place at Inauguration"? Muck won't have hand on bible, he'll have it inside, rewriting it for X. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 16 #4
He'll have his hand BigMin28 Jan 16 #7
They are going to sit on the platform with the cabinet??? Peacetrain Jan 16 #5
More like... 2naSalit Jan 16 #16
May 1 in Red Square in the old USSR DFW Jan 17 #40
I have something in common with them! A nine-figure net worth!!! COL Mustard Jan 16 #35
12 figure net worths Lucky Luciano Jan 17 #41
There's a big portion of the country that is pretty far gone Johnny2X2X Jan 16 #6
Republicans have been working for 40 years to make people stupider about how money works, BComplex Jan 16 #30
I was sitting at a bar a few months ago Johnny2X2X Jan 16 #31
They say teachers get paid too much, but Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 17 #39
KnR!! iluvtennis Jan 16 #8
We need to revive TR's expression, "Malefactors of great wealth" ... few phrases better describe the "tech bro" eppur_se_muova Jan 16 #9
They didn't listen to Eisenhower AncientOfDays Jan 16 #10
foggy Tetrachloride Jan 16 #11
Sure hope our progressive leaders were listening. Magoo48 Jan 16 #12
Same thing. True Blue American Jan 16 #13
We each need to find small ways to RESIST. Joinfortmill Jan 16 #14
Yes, yes, yes. Magoo48 Jan 16 #20
Proud to add the first "rec"! calimary Jan 16 #21
The orange maniac is extremely jealous of Muskie and Co. louis-t Jan 16 #15
Nothing changed under his tenure ThePartyThatListens Jan 16 #17
Then why didn't he and the other corporate Dems moonbeam23 Jan 16 #18
Yeah, get back to us with the "namby-bamby," a year from now. Paladin Jan 16 #19
The bashers are out in full-force today. Politicub Jan 16 #27
Bezos, Musk and Zuck are forever sullied by their obsequiousness to the Orange Asshole SpankMe Jan 16 #22
The Biden Admin didn't see any trouble with giving Musk DoD contracts erodriguez Jan 16 #23
So many contracts Falcon101 Jan 16 #25
Biden's speech yesterday was tearful for me. riversedge Jan 16 #24
The president is a skillful leader and knows the power of the bully pulpit Politicub Jan 16 #26
How much they hate us, that's what shocks me. They are willling to suffer themselves to watch us lose and be miserable. Peregrine Took Jan 16 #28
Exactly How? Frank D. Lincoln Jan 16 #29
Making the wealthy play by the rules is what Limbaugh used to call "punishing success" -- because... Beartracks Jan 16 #32
Nice words, but there wasn't one single act to rein in these oligarchs Bluetus Jan 16 #33
Elon Musk will have office space at the White House complex LetMyPeopleVote Jan 16 #34
this is what i have been saying all along. pay your fair share and that goes to the wealthy corperations too also. AllaN01Bear Jan 16 #36
k&r n/t markie Jan 16 #37
Shades of Eisenhower's Military Industrial Complex warning Dem4life1970 Jan 16 #38

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,108 posts)
3. Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg to receive a key perk on Inauguration Day
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:00 AM
Jan 16

Incoming presidents do not generally want to be seen as rewarding the hyper-wealthy with special political perks. Team Trump apparently doesn’t much care.
https://bsky.app/profile/joehick58.bsky.social/post/3lfsoyd6bzc2c



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/musk-bezos-zuckerberg-receive-key-perk-inauguration-day-rcna187793

What do Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg have in common? They’re all tech industry billionaires with nine-figure net worths that rival the GDPs of many countries. They also hold the top three slots on the Forbes 400 list. And as a political matter, they’ve also spent quite a bit of time — to varying degrees of genuflecting — cozying up to Donald Trump.

Their sycophantic efforts have apparently not gone unnoticed. NBC News reported:

Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg will attend President-elect Donald Trump’s inauguration Monday, according to an official involved with planning the event. They will have a prominent spot at the ceremony, seated together on the platform with other notable guests, including Trump’s Cabinet nominees and elected officials.


Around the same time as the NBC News report was published, Musk confirmed online that he will, in fact, have a prominent spot at Monday’s inauguration......

As for the larger context, the latest column from The New York Times’ Ezra Klein about the president-elect and his “alliance of oligarchs” continues to ring true.

Trump is now flanked by an alliance of oligarchs led by Elon Musk. The billionaire owners of The Washington Post and The Los Angeles Times killed presidential endorsements of Kamala Harris, ABC News (owned by Disney) gave Trump’s “future presidential foundation and museum” $15 million to settle a defamation lawsuit Trump brought, Mark Zuckerberg is refocusing Meta platforms around “free expression” and his company against D.E.I., and Amazon reportedly paid $40 million for Melania Trump’s documentary about herself. Tim Cook, Sundar Pichai and a slew of other chief executives have recently traveled to Mar-a-Lago to dine with Trump. This differs from 2017, when Trump was treated as an aberration to be endured or a malignancy to reject. The billionaires see that the rules have changed. They are signaling their willingness to abide by them.


By playing by these new rules, Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg will receive a special reward on Monday. What additional rewards should they expect in the coming weeks, months and years? Watch this space.

President Biden is correct about the fact that there is now an oligarchy in control of the United States government

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,153 posts)
4. "prominent place at Inauguration"? Muck won't have hand on bible, he'll have it inside, rewriting it for X. . . . . nt
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:07 AM
Jan 16

BigMin28

(1,645 posts)
7. He'll have his hand
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:18 AM
Jan 16

Up tsf's back side like a ventriloquist, a puppet master. Donnie will do anything for his new best friend.

2naSalit

(96,317 posts)
16. More like...
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:07 PM
Jan 16

That's the intended effect. They want a big, public display saying they have taken over and we must obey or else.

DFW

(57,669 posts)
40. May 1 in Red Square in the old USSR
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 09:29 AM
Jan 17

If you wanted to know who had the most clout after the Party First Secretary, all you had to do was look and see who was placed closest to him on the reviewing stand. It was more reliable than a scorecard at a baseball game.

I always said that the Republicans idolized the Stalinists. They are shedding more of their pretense to the opposite every day.

COL Mustard

(7,322 posts)
35. I have something in common with them! A nine-figure net worth!!!
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 07:13 PM
Jan 16

Of course, my only gets to nine places to the RIGHT of the decimal point!

Johnny2X2X

(22,671 posts)
6. There's a big portion of the country that is pretty far gone
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:14 AM
Jan 16

Here in Michigan, Dems got an increased minimum wage into law, and they extend it to tipped workers which will see a more gradual increase over the next 5 years. There have been protests against this increase of wages to tipped workers, but not who you think, not the rich, not the bar and restaurant owners, but from tipped workers. Sure, they don't repesent most tipped workers, but there they are out screaming that they shouldn't make more money.

Why? Well, they been fed a line of crap about this from Rightwing media, they believe several things that are just not true. They've been told that raising their hourly rate will mean that tips will be eliminated when that's not true at all, no bar or restaurant has a plan to end tipping. Knowing that, some of them believe, "well, the prices will have to be raised for drinks and food, so I'll be tipped less." Um, that's not how tipping works, it's the opposite actually, people tip a % of their total bill, a slightly higher bill will mean slightly higher tips.

The propaganda is so strong that you have actual working people protesting for them to continue to make less money. It's insane. And sure, they probably believe a couple false things, but at its core, they're out there saying the rich need more and wokring people should work for less.

78 million people voted very clearly 2 months ago to take from working people so the rich can get more for themselves, and that's exactly what they're going to get in the next 4 years.

BComplex

(9,354 posts)
30. Republicans have been working for 40 years to make people stupider about how money works,
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 03:45 PM
Jan 16

how capitalism works, and failing to teach anything about government.

Johnny2X2X

(22,671 posts)
31. I was sitting at a bar a few months ago
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 04:27 PM
Jan 16

Have known my bartender for over a decade, really nice lady. The conversation turned to minimum wage, she knows I'm a lefty so she asks, "What do you think minimu wage should be?" I said, I'm not sure, but at least enough for entry level workers to do as well as I did wokring my first jobs in the 80s." My guess is $15 or $16 here in Michigan. Then some people strarted talking about how much fast food costs these days, "The bartender says to me, so you're willing to pay a buck more per item so the workers there can make $16 or $16 an hour." She said it like a "gotcha." The irony of what she said ws completely lost on her until I answered, "Well, i am literally paying you a buck more per beer so you can get by and earn a living, so I guess the answer to that is yes." She's not a righty or anything, just one of the people who believes what she hears on TV. She was really worried about the tipped minimum wage going up in Michigan, I said to her, "You're still getting the same buck or two per beer tip from me regardless of what your hourly rate is and even if the base price of the beer goes up."

And don't get me wrong, I respect bartending as a profession, I've bartended, if you're competent at it, you can make a living doing it. But I go to a dive bar, this isn't some mixologist, she wroks at a dive bar during the day. She knows how to mix a hand full of drinks, pour beers, and wash the counter, it's not rocket surgery, but I and the rest of the regulars are more than happy to tip her well so she can take care of herself and her kid. But apparently fastfood workers don't deserve the same dignity as bartenders do.

And this is what Cons have done for 50 years now, they get working people to think other working people getting a little more are the problem. Look at the disdain you hear from non union workers towards union workers. Every good union contract gets met with jeers. Ford or Stelantis laying off laying off a thousand or so people and you hear, "See, that fatcat union contract cost people their jobs." All of the people working to make ends meet target other working people. And it goes to every profession. People will say teacher's get too good of benefits. People get mad college professors are making 6 figures. I even see it in my own building where production is jealous of us in engineering. Like we in engineering aren't a lot closer to the people on the shop floor in values and work ethic than we are to the guys in the corner offices at corporate headquarters or the board room. We're all just working stiffs, hoping to save enough to retire with a little bit of dignity.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,290 posts)
39. They say teachers get paid too much, but
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:05 AM
Jan 17

millionaires & billionaires don't. That's quite a trick the RW has pulled off.

eppur_se_muova

(38,750 posts)
9. We need to revive TR's expression, "Malefactors of great wealth" ... few phrases better describe the "tech bro"
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:34 AM
Jan 16

billionaires. Their great wealth & influence is beyond anything the robber barons could have imagined -- they are princes, as Machiavelli used the term.

Magoo48

(6,160 posts)
12. Sure hope our progressive leaders were listening.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:21 PM
Jan 16

It’s the bottom of the ninth and oligarchs are up by one orange run. We need a rally led by our best sluggers. We as citizens must act courageously and consistently, now.

Joinfortmill

(17,720 posts)
14. We each need to find small ways to RESIST.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:59 PM
Jan 16

I think one of the most effective ways is to hit them in their wallets.
1. Don't buy from merchants who supported the felon, if possible.
2. Don't engage on their social media sites.
3. Shun Corporate media. Don't give them the ratings.
4. Donate to Dems if you can.
5. Engage with folks in your circle who voted for the felon. This one will be difficult.

Please add to the list.

Magoo48

(6,160 posts)
20. Yes, yes, yes.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:41 PM
Jan 16

Donations to Dems who refuse to stand with those few up front now is iffy. Make the timid ones show up consistently before we pay up.
I agree wholeheartedly with all your other points.

louis-t

(24,178 posts)
15. The orange maniac is extremely jealous of Muskie and Co.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:01 PM
Jan 16

He has always seen himself as 'better than them', yet he has to lie about his wealth because he doesn't have the smarts to take what he was given and turn it into staggering wealth. He is a total failure at everything he has attempted.

 
17. Nothing changed under his tenure
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:11 PM
Jan 16

He did promise that nothing will fundamentally change.

I hope things like what's going on now makes people who are ostensibly on the left realize we're in a different era now and therefore need to act accordingly.

moonbeam23

(391 posts)
18. Then why didn't he and the other corporate Dems
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:18 PM
Jan 16

DO SOMETHING? If it is so important and dire? (Which it is)

Like get recounts in swing states as soon as experts started coming out with evidence of the theft.

Instead we get namby-bamby as usual.

Sorry Joe...you could have left a legacy as great as Lincoln or FDR. You blew it sir.

Paladin

(29,988 posts)
19. Yeah, get back to us with the "namby-bamby," a year from now.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:36 PM
Jan 16

See how your Biden-bashing holds up, when we're knee-deep in the nightmare...

Politicub

(12,309 posts)
27. The bashers are out in full-force today.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 03:14 PM
Jan 16

Everywhere. This speech touched a nerve. And awakened something deep within us.

SpankMe

(3,425 posts)
22. Bezos, Musk and Zuck are forever sullied by their obsequiousness to the Orange Asshole
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:55 PM
Jan 16

I had hope for Bezos. He had (and may still have) some degree of a more progressive view of many matters of importance. His public statements when he bought WaPo were pretty good. But he's been sucking Trump's dick so hard since just before the election that Bezos' skin is, itself, taking on a bit of an orange pallor.

But, I've always perceived Musk as a humorless, tone-deaf, psychopath with no human empathy evident in any of his words or deeds - even before he became a right-wing tool.

Zuck has always been known as conservative. I think he closeted his conservatism until he felt license to come forward and bring it out with the coronation of a national Nazi leader like Trump.

I didn't think it possible, but Musk, Bezos and Zuck rank lower than the Kochs and the Waltons on my lists now. The Waltons and Kochs donated heavily to Republicans and Republican causes. But they at least had robust, high profile philanthropic programs that helped a lot of people.

Musk, Bezos and Zuck are far, far more dangerous in that not only do they donate to Republicans, but they have a more direct impact on the information ecosystem of the country than the Kochs and Waltons had or ever will have. They can all manipulate their social media empires to engineer public opinion in any way they see fit.

Part of our mission as liberals should be to dismantle the mass propaganda machinery of these bastards, either through competition with more left leaning social media, or though outreach to companies advertising or doing business on X/Meta/Amazon. Every time you see an ad adjacent to a racist/homophobic/hate post on social media, take a screen grab. Publish it elsewhere and sent it to the advertiser. We must fight this.

Falcon101

(39 posts)
25. So many contracts
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 03:03 PM
Jan 16

Or any of the contracts given in the industrial military complex. Musk would have funded the Dems if we did not ignore him when praising the car companies selling electric cars. That's when he went to the dark side.

Politicub

(12,309 posts)
26. The president is a skillful leader and knows the power of the bully pulpit
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 03:12 PM
Jan 16

This speech packed a wallop. He planted a seed and conveyed how this moment is unique, but also how the movement to defeat the oligarchy will be shockingly familiar.

Peregrine Took

(7,573 posts)
28. How much they hate us, that's what shocks me. They are willling to suffer themselves to watch us lose and be miserable.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 03:25 PM
Jan 16

What did we ever do to earn such ill will? How did we hurt them? Our politics are open hearted and welcoming to all. I just don't get it.

Frank D. Lincoln

(894 posts)
29. Exactly How?
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 03:44 PM
Jan 16
"More than a century ago, the American people stood up to the robber barons back then and busted the trusts. They didn’t punish the wealthy. They just made the wealthy play by the rules everybody else had."


How exactly would we go about doing something like that today?

Voting? Future elections might be fixed so that we can't get out of this situation like that anymore. (But we won't know for sure until 2026.)

Boycotting? How would we go about organizing a country this large and so divided and likely lorded over by a fascist dictator?

Protesting? If Trump has his way, that'll be quelled by the U.S. military and possibly violently.

It looks like the robber barons of today can't be defeated but will only grow more rich and powerful as the American people become poorer and less powerful.

The kick in the head is that the American people have enabled this at the ballot box by voting for Trump combined with a great many people who voted for Biden in 2020 not voting at all in 2024.

The American people are the best friend the oligarchs ever had.

The American people collectively chose to be fleeced and disempowered by the oligarchs.

But maybe there's a way for us to get out of this that I can't foresee.

Beartracks

(13,840 posts)
32. Making the wealthy play by the rules is what Limbaugh used to call "punishing success" -- because...
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 05:57 PM
Jan 16

... the only measure of your fitness as an American, according to Republicans, is how rich you are.

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Bluetus

(896 posts)
33. Nice words, but there wasn't one single act to rein in these oligarchs
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 06:04 PM
Jan 16

I don't recall a single bill being advocated or a single executive order that would compel these people to pay their fair share of taxes. Not one action to hold their social networks accountable for the hate speech they foster. Not one occasion when their attempts to monopolize industries were opposed even gently. Never an attempt to roll back the concentration of corporate control over our biggest media outlets. And certainly never a single step taken to prosecute any of them for price fixing.

Perhaps none of these things would have succeeded, given the narrow majorities that we had in Congress. But dammit, when you are President, you have to try. Even if you fail, you have to let the public know what you are fighting for.

When Democrats refuse to use the power the voters give them, then we have no right to complain when the voters don't stand with us the next time.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,108 posts)
34. Elon Musk will have office space at the White House complex
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 06:34 PM
Jan 16


The richest man on Earth, whose wealth has been heavily subsidized by billions of dollars in government contracts, spent a fortune putting Trump in the White House.

But it's not enough to just have the president's ear — now he'll have an office next to him too?

Oligarchy.

AllaN01Bear

(24,610 posts)
36. this is what i have been saying all along. pay your fair share and that goes to the wealthy corperations too also.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 08:00 PM
Jan 16

Dem4life1970

(766 posts)
38. Shades of Eisenhower's Military Industrial Complex warning
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:33 PM
Jan 16

But this is far more dangerous in many respects to the Republic.

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