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Cirsium

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12. People aren't alseep

Thu Jan 16, 2025, 03:19 PM

Jan 2025

The potential opposition to MAGA often seems to be snoozing or in denial, but the MAGA supporters are alert and awake. They know what is happening, and they love it. They will be seeing others suffer, and are very happy about that prospect. They are willing to overlook their own suffering, just so long as others are suffering more.

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America needs to suffer [View all] edhopper Jan 2025 OP

Yes it has to be a steep learning curve for lessons to be learned. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #1

Yes bdamomma Jan 2025 #5

Yes we lived in a sort of golden age and didn't know it or appreciate it. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #13

Nothing is ever enough for the greedy billionaire elites meow2u3 Jan 2025 #67

They won't stop until they have every last cent. Blue Full Moon Jan 2025 #77

Nothing will ever fill the holes in their souls. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #88

Always thought this song summed it up Blue Full Moon Jan 2025 #92

well said Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #74

or a "big swift kick in the ass with reality." Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #73

Sad but true. Most alcoholics and addicts won't get sober until they hit bottom... johnnyplankton Jan 2025 #48

I don't know if the MAGAs hit bottom they will learn anything. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #59

Then they have not reached bottom. state of stupid Jan 2025 #68

I think the MAGAs will sit at the bottom blaming everyone else until they die. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #81

It's a cult. Mariana Jan 2025 #86

I agree wholeheartedly. After 40 years of being a therapist, I am not sure I would want to hear state of stupid Jan 2025 #94

I truly loved my job. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #95

What to do about the Trump cult? Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #97

Some Nazis changed when looking down the barrel of a gun held by an American GI. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #83

What did they change though? Cirsium Jan 2025 #98

Good point. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #100

Most walked Cirsium Jan 2025 #104

Are you sure they changed or did they change into camouflage and go underground? state of stupid Jan 2025 #99

Yes good point, they are back. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #102

there is that. Was all Clinton's fault or Obama's fault or Bidens' fault. RW smear 24/7 all over radio and "social" Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #76

It's all the fault of people who pee in the wrong bathroom. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #84

Let's Not Forget, even if it was not done well enough to prosper, and continue past a few years... electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #111

Listened all the time until they folded. Still getting Democracy Now! on a local radio station. Wish there was more. Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #119

Agree with you yankee87 Jan 2025 #82

And so we shall, and the rest of the world with us 0rganism Jan 2025 #2

Make it a double. rubbersole Jan 2025 #43

I agree and disagree. Our lives are a time to learn and make mistakes, but do mistakes have to in2herbs Jan 2025 #3

"negative fashion" bdamomma Jan 2025 #6

Well America just exercised their free will edhopper Jan 2025 #8

It would be a lovely world if that were the case, but I'm skeptical. MLAA Jan 2025 #24

half of our country is extremely selfish and has absolutely no empathy for anyone else. They couldn't care less, until Meadowoak Jan 2025 #42

It will affect them. bdamomma Jan 2025 #50

They think their lives will change on day one. Demobrat Jan 2025 #78

"do mistakes have to involve pain and suffering in order to learn our lessons?" - not always, but these mistakes will 0rganism Jan 2025 #69

I hate to agree but I do. And the worse it is, the quicker it will be over. Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #4

Be careful what you wish for inwiththenew Jan 2025 #7

We already have the fascists in power edhopper Jan 2025 #10

People aren't alseep Cirsium Jan 2025 #12

Some will take it as a sign... Beck23 Jan 2025 #25

oh bdamomma Jan 2025 #58

The thought Has crossed my mind.... electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #112

And if kkmarie Jan 2025 #63

How to Win Friends and Influence People Prairie Gates Jan 2025 #9

That might not work Cirsium Jan 2025 #11

Some Germans even... Beck23 Jan 2025 #30

And this will be the way if something should happen to tRUMP, he passes away from some ailment of the stomach, SWBTATTReg Jan 2025 #41

I watched a documentary a few years back. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2025 #51

They knew Cirsium Jan 2025 #96

Oh, hell yes. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2025 #101

I heard this same argument on Election Night 2016 from a Millenial. maxsolomon Jan 2025 #14

Yep. red don killed hundreds of thousands not fooled Jan 2025 #21

I would ammend that and say "truth has no counter" jgmiller Jan 2025 #60

I don't think the suffering will teach anybody anything, all we can hope and work for is a pendulum swing thebigidea Jan 2025 #15

Propaganda Johnny2X2X Jan 2025 #16

when you have to decide between rent and medicine Skittles Jan 2025 #79

"Paychecks" Johnny2X2X Jan 2025 #89

for DECADES I said, not since BIDEN Skittles Jan 2025 #90

Fair enough Johnny2X2X Jan 2025 #114

When life gets harder for them and they are suffering they'll still listen to right wing media who will tell them it's kimbutgar Jan 2025 #17

Blaming someone else is always easier than thinking . . . hatrack Jan 2025 #115

I don't think people will wake the fuck up, they will find more different bogeymen RockRaven Jan 2025 #18

I tend to agree Redleg Jan 2025 #110

WTFU jeffreyi Jan 2025 #19

It was mentioned in another post, the descendants of the confederacy are back dlk Jan 2025 #20

Suffering will only make MAGATs crazier, more volent Bobstandard Jan 2025 #22

I posted something similar a few weeks ago Takket Jan 2025 #23

Hard For Them To Wake Up Mr.Bee Jan 2025 #26

I'm afraid you are right Americanme Jan 2025 #27

Read "Dying of Whiteness" AverageOldGuy Jan 2025 #28

That's not necessarily true. I know MAGATS who are snowflake whimps holding onto blind faith that Papa Trump will Martin68 Jan 2025 #37

EXACTLY Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #38

You first.. whathehell Jan 2025 #29

There's no "you first." It's going to be all of us. But it is inevitable. Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #72

Yea, actually there is.. whathehell Jan 2025 #93

You misunderstand. My comment has nothing to do with collective guilt or atoning. This has to do with the Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #105

Yes, I'm beginning to think Americans need to suffer before they come to their senses and reject MAGA. Martin68 Jan 2025 #31

The dumbing down of America has suceeded! 3825-87867 Jan 2025 #32

And when they complain simply say "I didn't vote for him so don't b***h to me" appleannie1 Jan 2025 #33

Trump will simply double down and blame it all on Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #34

People in prison suffer. milestogo Jan 2025 #35

The MAGAs will just blame it all on Biden. fierywoman Jan 2025 #36

The Deplorable voter wants what he/she are TOLD to want - no amount of suffering is going to change a thing. NoMoreRepugs Jan 2025 #39

Sorry, not sorry. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2025 #40

It will have to affect them personally Macrophylla Jan 2025 #44

let it all go down. all go down and then they will whine and pine on how good they had it. my late mom AllaN01Bear Jan 2025 #45

Trump 2.0 could be worse bmichaelh Jan 2025 #46

Agree! Facts and reason aren't working because.... perdita9 Jan 2025 #47

Climate change will make sure we will suffer Kaleva Jan 2025 #49

You're not alone in your thoughts. egduj Jan 2025 #52

Ralph Nader mentioned that way back when. I know GPV Jan 2025 #53

Whatever success powerful right-wing propaganda has in convincing Americans Stargleamer Jan 2025 #54

Only certain minds Keepthesoulalive Jan 2025 #85

Much of America already does. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2025 #55

Glad to see somebody's wish is bound to come true. (nt) Paladin Jan 2025 #56

I agree but lapfog_1 Jan 2025 #57

Agree...but, those of us who understand what's coming can take steps now to mitigate the pain and suffering PortTack Jan 2025 #61

Some will wake up TexasBushwhacker Jan 2025 #62

The Republican campaign against being "woke" is their way of masking their intent and actions. patphil Jan 2025 #64

Indeed! 100% cer7711 Jan 2025 #65

Anything bad they blame on Democrats NameAlreadyTaken Jan 2025 #66

Rec Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #70

Not sure America will connect the right dots. CountMyVote4Reality Jan 2025 #71

Agreed. hadEnuf Jan 2025 #75

I agree OP ThePartyThatListens Jan 2025 #80

This sounds like it comes from a position of privilege erodriguez Jan 2025 #87

Or somebody edhopper Jan 2025 #109

In Jesus' name though. So... czarjak Jan 2025 #91

We will, whether we need to or not. Ocelot II Jan 2025 #103

What people fail to grasp is any suffering that happens will be blamed on the Democrats, and unfortunately under fascist JohnSJ Jan 2025 #106

That is correct. Sadly the most vulnerable people will suffer more than the rest. Oopsie Daisy Jan 2025 #107

One way or another, tens of millions of voters need to learn the lesson that Martin Eden Jan 2025 #108

"Needs to Suffer"? [sorry, Earl G]. Screw you, OP. Many have Suffered ENOUGH, already! electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #113

America has suffered enough. Kid Berwyn Jan 2025 #117

My second sentence; edhopper Jan 2025 #118

Your Second sentence DOESN'T Matter you're still pushing for suffering that will affect So Many that are Not Magats! electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #123

I am not pushing it edhopper Jan 2025 #124

The phrase "Needs to" is NOT a Nuetral phrase. IF you had said, "I Expect America to suffer", that's nuetral. electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #125

True edhopper Jan 2025 #126

Kinda too late, but I think they need to suffer somehow, bc their votes electing him will, imho, bring.... electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #130

Sadly i agree. Once the MAGA fools satisfy some of their hate lust against travelingthrulife Jan 2025 #116

The right already has a head start. The Grand Illuminist Jan 2025 #120

I kicked off my "Dump the dollar" program today. roamer65 Jan 2025 #121

I still can't believe the women of America didn't stand up to this ecstatic Jan 2025 #122

It would be interesting to see who they blame after they deport all the immigrants tulipsandroses Jan 2025 #127

Obama and Biden edhopper Jan 2025 #128

This. cilla4progress Jan 2025 #129

If COVID and an insurrection weren't enough Dr. Shepper Jan 2025 #131

It is sad state that this might happen. SteveMarrs Jan 2025 #132