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edhopper

(35,145 posts) Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:56 PM 18 hrs ago

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America needs to suffer [View all]

I am not saying I want to see this, but the only way I see the veil falling from the eyes of all those who don't see Trump and the Repukes as the evil fascists they are is for wide spread suffering. High unemployment, high inflation, loss of healthcare, loss of services. Maybe then they will wake the fuck up.
Because it doesn't appear that the loss of reproductive rights, or giving Putin access to our national security means squat to them. Along with the character or competence of anyone in power.

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America needs to suffer [View all] edhopper 18 hrs ago OP

Yes it has to be a steep learning curve for lessons to be learned. Irish_Dem 18 hrs ago #1

Yes bdamomma 18 hrs ago #5

Yes we lived in a sort of golden age and didn't know it or appreciate it. Irish_Dem 18 hrs ago #13

Nothing is ever enough for the greedy billionaire elites meow2u3 16 hrs ago #67

They won't stop until they have every last cent. Blue Full Moon 16 hrs ago #77

Nothing will ever fill the holes in their souls. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #88

Always thought this song summed it up Blue Full Moon 15 hrs ago #92

well said Evolve Dammit 16 hrs ago #74

or a "big swift kick in the ass with reality." Evolve Dammit 16 hrs ago #73

Sad but true. Most alcoholics and addicts won't get sober until they hit bottom... johnnyplankton 17 hrs ago #48

I don't know if the MAGAs hit bottom they will learn anything. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #59

Then they have not reached bottom. state of stupid 16 hrs ago #68

I think the MAGAs will sit at the bottom blaming everyone else until they die. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #81

It's a cult. Mariana 15 hrs ago #86

I agree wholeheartedly. After 40 years of being a therapist, I am not sure I would want to hear state of stupid 14 hrs ago #94

I truly loved my job. Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #95

What to do about the Trump cult? Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #97

Some Nazis changed when looking down the barrel of a gun held by an American GI. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #83

What did they change though? Cirsium 14 hrs ago #98

Good point. Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #100

Most walked Cirsium 13 hrs ago #104

Are you sure they changed or did they change into camouflage and go underground? state of stupid 14 hrs ago #99

Yes good point, they are back. Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #102

there is that. Was all Clinton's fault or Obama's fault or Bidens' fault. RW smear 24/7 all over radio and "social" Evolve Dammit 16 hrs ago #76

It's all the fault of people who pee in the wrong bathroom. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #84

Let's Not Forget, even if it was not done well enough to prosper, and continue past a few years... electric_blue68 8 hrs ago #111

Agree with you yankee87 15 hrs ago #82

And so we shall, and the rest of the world with us 0rganism 18 hrs ago #2

Make it a double. rubbersole 17 hrs ago #43

I agree and disagree. Our lives are a time to learn and make mistakes, but do mistakes have to in2herbs 18 hrs ago #3

"negative fashion" bdamomma 18 hrs ago #6

Well America just exercised their free will edhopper 18 hrs ago #8

It would be a lovely world if that were the case, but I'm skeptical. MLAA 17 hrs ago #24

half of our country is extremely selfish and has absolutely no empathy for anyone else. They couldn't care less, until Meadowoak 17 hrs ago #42

It will affect them. bdamomma 17 hrs ago #50

They think their lives will change on day one. Demobrat 16 hrs ago #78

"do mistakes have to involve pain and suffering in order to learn our lessons?" - not always, but these mistakes will 0rganism 16 hrs ago #69

I hate to agree but I do. And the worse it is, the quicker it will be over. Scrivener7 18 hrs ago #4

Be careful what you wish for inwiththenew 18 hrs ago #7

We already have the fascists in power edhopper 18 hrs ago #10

People aren't alseep Cirsium 18 hrs ago #12

Some will take it as a sign... Beck23 17 hrs ago #25

oh bdamomma 17 hrs ago #58

The thought Has crossed my mind.... electric_blue68 7 hrs ago #112

And if kkmarie 16 hrs ago #63

How to Win Friends and Influence People Prairie Gates 18 hrs ago #9

That might not work Cirsium 18 hrs ago #11

Some Germans even... Beck23 17 hrs ago #30

And this will be the way if something should happen to tRUMP, he passes away from some ailment of the stomach, SWBTATTReg 17 hrs ago #41

I watched a documentary a few years back. WinstonSmith4740 17 hrs ago #51

They knew Cirsium 14 hrs ago #96

Oh, hell yes. WinstonSmith4740 14 hrs ago #101

I heard this same argument on Election Night 2016 from a Millenial. maxsolomon 18 hrs ago #14

Yep. red don killed hundreds of thousands not fooled 17 hrs ago #21

I would ammend that and say "truth has no counter" jgmiller 17 hrs ago #60

I don't think the suffering will teach anybody anything, all we can hope and work for is a pendulum swing thebigidea 18 hrs ago #15

Propaganda Johnny2X2X 18 hrs ago #16

when you have to decide between rent and medicine Skittles 16 hrs ago #79

"Paychecks" Johnny2X2X 15 hrs ago #89

for DECADES I said, not since BIDEN Skittles 15 hrs ago #90

When life gets harder for them and they are suffering they'll still listen to right wing media who will tell them it's kimbutgar 18 hrs ago #17

I don't think people will wake the fuck up, they will find more different bogeymen RockRaven 18 hrs ago #18

I tend to agree Redleg 10 hrs ago #110

WTFU jeffreyi 18 hrs ago #19

It was mentioned in another post, the descendants of the confederacy are back dlk 17 hrs ago #20

Suffering will only make MAGATs crazier, more volent Bobstandard 17 hrs ago #22

I posted something similar a few weeks ago Takket 17 hrs ago #23

Hard For Them To Wake Up Mr.Bee 17 hrs ago #26

I'm afraid you are right Americanme 17 hrs ago #27

Read "Dying of Whiteness" AverageOldGuy 17 hrs ago #28

That's not necessarily true. I know MAGATS who are snowflake whimps holding onto blind faith that Papa Trump will Martin68 17 hrs ago #37

EXACTLY Blue_Tires 17 hrs ago #38

You first.. whathehell 17 hrs ago #29

There's no "you first." It's going to be all of us. But it is inevitable. Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #72

Yea, actually there is.. whathehell 14 hrs ago #93

You misunderstand. My comment has nothing to do with collective guilt or atoning. This has to do with the Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #105

Yes, I'm beginning to think Americans need to suffer before they come to their senses and reject MAGA. Martin68 17 hrs ago #31

The dumbing down of America has suceeded! 3825-87867 17 hrs ago #32

And when they complain simply say "I didn't vote for him so don't b***h to me" appleannie1 17 hrs ago #33

Trump will simply double down and blame it all on Blue_Tires 17 hrs ago #34

People in prison suffer. milestogo 17 hrs ago #35

The MAGAs will just blame it all on Biden. fierywoman 17 hrs ago #36

The Deplorable voter wants what he/she are TOLD to want - no amount of suffering is going to change a thing. NoMoreRepugs 17 hrs ago #39

Sorry, not sorry. WinstonSmith4740 17 hrs ago #40

It will have to affect them personally Macrophylla 17 hrs ago #44

let it all go down. all go down and then they will whine and pine on how good they had it. my late mom AllaN01Bear 17 hrs ago #45

Trump 2.0 could be worse bmichaelh 17 hrs ago #46

Agree! Facts and reason aren't working because.... perdita9 17 hrs ago #47

Climate change will make sure we will suffer Kaleva 17 hrs ago #49

You're not alone in your thoughts. egduj 17 hrs ago #52

Ralph Nader mentioned that way back when. I know GPV 17 hrs ago #53

Whatever success powerful right-wing propaganda has in convincing Americans Stargleamer 17 hrs ago #54

Only certain minds Keepthesoulalive 15 hrs ago #85

Much of America already does. WhiskeyGrinder 17 hrs ago #55

Glad to see somebody's wish is bound to come true. (nt) Paladin 17 hrs ago #56

I agree but lapfog_1 17 hrs ago #57

Agree...but, those of us who understand what's coming can take steps now to mitigate the pain and suffering PortTack 17 hrs ago #61

Some will wake up TexasBushwhacker 16 hrs ago #62

The Republican campaign against being "woke" is their way of masking their intent and actions. patphil 16 hrs ago #64

Indeed! 100% cer7711 16 hrs ago #65

Anything bad they blame on Democrats NameAlreadyTaken 16 hrs ago #66

Rec Evolve Dammit 16 hrs ago #70

Not sure America will connect the right dots. CountMyVote4Reality 16 hrs ago #71

Agreed. hadEnuf 16 hrs ago #75

I agree OP ThePartyThatListens 16 hrs ago #80

This sounds like it comes from a position of privilege erodriguez 15 hrs ago #87

Or somebody edhopper 12 hrs ago #109

In Jesus' name though. So... czarjak 15 hrs ago #91

We will, whether we need to or not. Ocelot II 14 hrs ago #103

What people fail to grasp is any suffering that happens will be blamed on the Democrats, and unfortunately under fascist JohnSJ 13 hrs ago #106

That is correct. Sadly the most vulnerable people will suffer more than the rest. Oopsie Daisy 13 hrs ago #107

One way or another, tens of millions of voters need to learn the lesson that Martin Eden 12 hrs ago #108

Well... "Needs to"? [sorry, Earl G]...Screw U, OP... if that draws your ire...fine. electric_blue68 7 hrs ago #113