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the_liberal_grandpa

(174 posts) Wed Jan 15, 2025, 03:01 PM Jan 15

I am done donating to democrats [View all]

Regretfully I donated to both Ruben Gallego and John Fetterman to help them win their elections.

Now I learn that they both are sponsoring the repubs "Laken Riley Act" which, according to a NYTimes article by Michelle Goldberg will allow for the indefinite incarceration of anyone merely accused of being and immigrant and of committing a crime. This includes children. With no requirement for due process or proof of committing the crime itself.

If passed as written by the right-wing nut jobs in the house it will become a stain on Democracy and an even bigger stain on democrats who appear eager to vote for it.

Fetterman and Gallego appear to be the new Manchin and Sinema for the Dems. They think that an immigration bill written by repubs is good "common sense" idea and makes perfect sense to them as is without any amendments.

I fear these two will backstab liberals the people who elected them over and over in the coming years as Manchin and Sinema did.

My new policy going forward is that I will not dontate a single penny to any democrat who does not have a solid record of fighting for liberal causes and will not donate to any democrat running for election for the first time out of fear that they are repubs or moderates who are lying just to get elected but have no real intention of supporting liberal causes.

Nor will I dontate to any democrat who talks about "working across the isle", "doing the right thing" or compromising with this new regime that seems hell bent on destroying our country.

We need fighters not appeasers.

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I am done donating to democrats [View all] the_liberal_grandpa Jan 15 OP

With you on that. I won't support appeasement. Autumn Jan 15 #1

I also donated to Fetterman gab13by13 Jan 15 #2

I'm all for primary him. Butterflylady Jan 15 #6

I'd be interested to see polling from Democrats on the topic Renew Deal Jan 15 #3

In Pennsylvania and Arizona mountain grammy Jan 15 #39

Right wingers always want to put it in personal terms. We're not talking about whether we like people here illegally Walleye Jan 16 #77

Political training tells you to put it on personal terms Renew Deal Jan 16 #79

How does it go? large minds discuss ideas, small minds discuss people Walleye Jan 16 #80

For politics, it's about the personal appeal Renew Deal Jan 16 #81

Katie Hobbs is supporting the bill. So is Mark Kelly. LeftInTX Jan 16 #93

I feel as you do. Ithinkdems coddled manchin ans senima too much Trueblue1968 Jan 15 #4

But will you still vote for such Democrats? Kaleva Jan 15 #5

I'm seriously considering withholding all donations Raven123 Jan 15 #7

I hope you reconsider. That's like throwing the baby out with the bath water. PortTack Jan 15 #27

I believed that in the past. Now I am not so sure Raven123 Jan 15 #62

And Sherrod didn't survive. I don't think it was his ideology however. LeftInTX Jan 16 #92

Sherrod isn't just left leaning Raven123 Jan 17 #95

This might help you get more informed awesomerwb1 Jan 15 #44

Thanks. A depressing read, but I appreciate the links Raven123 Jan 15 #52

I'm done donating as well mr715 Jan 15 #8

I am with you, good sir! OldBaldy1701E Jan 15 #9

I canceled my monthly $5 to Kamala and started monthly $5 to Alexandria yesterday LuvLoogie Jan 15 #10

AOC? You are right she maybe one of the individuals we all need to support. usaf-vet Jan 15 #13

And Crockett. Think. Again. Jan 15 #45

Yes and yes!! usaf-vet Jan 15 #55

She's one of the only ones I'd be tempted to support at this point, but why bother when she gets bypassed lostnfound Jan 15 #66

We agree. The wife and I are revamping our political donations. We are sick of the system & will change it in our house. usaf-vet Jan 15 #11

Don't forget U.S. Senator Mark Kelly. Frank D. Lincoln Jan 15 #12

They are doing what they need to win JI7 Jan 15 #14

Or they are following 40 year-old conventional wisdom that didn't work 40 years ago, either. nt Gore1FL Jan 15 #15

That argument doesn't fly rpannier Jan 15 #20

Both Democratic Senators from Georgia don't cow to the right - but apparently they're doing it all wrong tenderfoot Jan 15 #36

Jon Osoff is supporting it LeftInTX Jan 15 #57

That's unfortunate tenderfoot Jan 15 #59

and 40 + Dems in the House MadameButterfly Jan 16 #67

Yes, it will be abused. That's the purpose of laws like this. wnylib Jan 16 #87

Yeah. Due process matters for all humans MadameButterfly Jan 16 #88

How dare they! BannonsLiver Jan 15 #23

Winning involves betraying those that actually VOTED for them? tenderfoot Jan 15 #29

The people that voted for them want this JI7 Jan 15 #32

Fetterman supporters want this? Then why are the so upset? tenderfoot Jan 15 #33

They aren't all upset. In fact most aren't upset. JI7 Jan 15 #35

based on what evidence tenderfoot Jan 15 #37

Based on everything I see JI7 Jan 15 #41

I don't see it like that. tenderfoot Jan 15 #43

I'm not sure of that, BUT... Think. Again. Jan 15 #46

Yep BannonsLiver Jan 15 #40

I continue to donate to AOC and Jasmine Crockett. PatrickforB Jan 15 #16

Yes, there a plenty of Dems deserving and in the face MadameButterfly Jan 16 #68

The new Guantanamo Nululu Jan 15 #17

So Elon can be incarcerated indefinitely? travelingthrulife Jan 15 #18

Oh no BigMin28 Jan 15 #51

Eight Democratic senators are supporting this bill. Additionally, AZ Gov Katie Hobbs is supporting it. LeftInTX Jan 15 #19

It's still a shitty bill that won't accomplish anything whether Hobbs supports it or not tenderfoot Jan 15 #38

Good area to split Democratic voters V850i Jan 15 #21

Yes, the Dems in office should know this... Think. Again. Jan 15 #47

HOWEVER.... come general election time all Democrats need our support. groundloop Jan 15 #22

Support Democrats. Period. Oopsie Daisy Jan 15 #24

I tend to agree BannonsLiver Jan 15 #34

This isn't the trump cult.... Think. Again. Jan 15 #48

Doesn't matter. As long as they caucus with the Democrats, that's the most important thing. Oopsie Daisy Jan 15 #54

I disagree... Think. Again. Jan 15 #56

It is indeed short-sighted to dismiss the significant advantage of having a majority in either house of Congress * Oopsie Daisy Jan 15 #61

We've been accepting "imperfect" Democrats for years. choie Jan 15 #64

And their "bipartisanship" never ever Bettie Jan 16 #69

That's not true. What's been happening is that short-sighted folks have been failing to support the BEST candidate * Oopsie Daisy Jan 16 #72

This purity garbage will kill us even further travelingthrulife Jan 16 #74

Nonsense, we need a strong Left party... Think. Again. Jan 16 #75

This is how Republicans won their majorities, KY_EnviroGuy Jan 15 #25

Except 90% of their Democratic constituents DON'T want that. Think. Again. Jan 15 #50

Thank you! A voice of reason. Oopsie Daisy Jan 15 #58

Still a fan of Gallego BannonsLiver Jan 15 #26

I have to be more selective on who I donate to. The Third Doctor Jan 15 #28

The rethuglicans didn't even think it could become law awesomerwb1 Jan 15 #30

I haven't donated since 2000 GoreWon2000 Jan 15 #31

I want my donations to Sinema and Fetterman back Ritabert Jan 15 #42

Cool. Oopsie Daisy Jan 15 #49

We quit buying grapes because one of them was sour taxi Jan 15 #53

I hear you. Joinfortmill Jan 15 #60

Justice Democrats, Our Revolution, DSA, and maybe others are possibly worthy of your money. ColinC Jan 15 #63

They don't attract donations because they are terrible organizations. tritsofme Jan 16 #86

With that logic, the NRA, GOP, Heritage Foundation and ALEC are all amazing organizations ColinC Jan 16 #90

Those are Republican organizations. tritsofme Jan 16 #91

Why is it, pray tell, I can -without looking it up, name a dozen right wing organziations with billions in funding ColinC Jan 17 #94

We ABSOLUTELY need fighters Dee0909 Jan 15 #65

'(D)emocrat' bigtree Jan 16 #70

I'm not happy with Gallego's vote but MadameButterfly Jan 16 #71

Likewise... berksdem Jan 16 #73

They are interested in saving their careers, not about the people who elected them. alarimer Jan 16 #76

I won't stop donating to Democrats but not to all and we should have a list of appeasement Dems whom we should boycott kansasobama Jan 16 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author stillcool Jan 16 #82

I am done as well. suegeo Jan 16 #83

Ruben Gallego is in a border state Polybius Jan 16 #84

I'll keep contributing where I can to flip red districts thebigidea Jan 16 #85

As long as we continue to Vote Blue No Matter Who. Kaleva Jan 16 #89