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goldent

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15. "It is an outright statement that you cannot be moral without religion."

Reply to Promethean (Reply #13)

Sun Mar 17, 2013, 12:10 PM

Mar 2013

My philosophy professor would be disappointed if I didn't challenge that statement. That is perhaps the most famous fallacy in formal logic and is known as denying the antecedent.

FA said

However, if one is truly religious, then one has a strong sense of what is truly moral

He does not say that ONLY the truly religious have a strong sense of morality.

So you can challenge that statement and claim that not ALL religious people have a strong sense of morality. But you cannot claim he said if you are not religious then you are not moral. It does not follow.

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"It is an outright statement that you cannot be moral without religion." goldent Mar 2013 #15

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