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In reply to the discussion: i cannot stay quiet. not as a democrat. a liberal. a woman. a mother. a part of society. [View all]seabeyond
(110,159 posts)36. here is how i think adm and others may see it. saying there is a good feminist faction here that
addresses the sexism so there is not much of an issue. here is my reply to him. i would like more people to take the time, and think this thru. as they veiw a board that does not apear to be at a level of sexism they think we complain about.
every once in a while you see it. how much is directed at you, how often are you in the right place?
do you think that may color your perception.
example: about every woman has experienced street harassment a number of times in their lives. about EVERY woman, and a NUMBER of times in a lifetime. men say. i do not see it. ever.
so? that makes our experience invisible? less? it didnt happen?
when about every woman says, she has experienced street harassment and tells the experience, it is being dismissed with, .... i do not see it.
not directed at you men. and not directed at women, when a man is around. no you do not see it. doesnt mean it is not happen, or a womans experience is dismissed.
we have been posting on this board a decade or more with the same people. you do not think we do not know each others position? argument? so when a poster says something innocuous, it may go over most peoples head. those us of that have been following along in the conversation for years, know damn well what is being said. and the posters count on the fact others will not get the jab and it will not be hidden. sexism is sexism. whether in your face, or quiet. it is still sexism. it flavors conversation, environment, interaction with each other.
again. because you do not see it, does not mean it is not there.
last point. this is interesting to me. you say when it does happen, it is nipped in the bud cause of the strong feminist community. so let me ask you, what do you think it takes out of us, each and every time we have to call out the same bullshit. even if it is only every couple weeks. yea... you all get a more comfortable, sexist free place to be. and once again, we are having to spend our energy confronting, addressing, taking insults and mischaracterizations and all kinds of crap. bully for du, that the strong presence ensures a more comfortable, less hostile environment. then, the twist, what happens? we are the villians. throw out a hof insult, all is good. start a thread about me, say my uterus is too old to be birthing two boys, or create a rape porn scene for me, call me the b word, that is fine. i deserve it. for being a part of shutting down the sexism. that makes it so convenient for so many.
so, you can wrap your post up in a whole lot of meh... but when you unwrap it, it is not so insignificant.
just a couple points to think about.
do you think that may color your perception.
example: about every woman has experienced street harassment a number of times in their lives. about EVERY woman, and a NUMBER of times in a lifetime. men say. i do not see it. ever.
so? that makes our experience invisible? less? it didnt happen?
when about every woman says, she has experienced street harassment and tells the experience, it is being dismissed with, .... i do not see it.
not directed at you men. and not directed at women, when a man is around. no you do not see it. doesnt mean it is not happen, or a womans experience is dismissed.
we have been posting on this board a decade or more with the same people. you do not think we do not know each others position? argument? so when a poster says something innocuous, it may go over most peoples head. those us of that have been following along in the conversation for years, know damn well what is being said. and the posters count on the fact others will not get the jab and it will not be hidden. sexism is sexism. whether in your face, or quiet. it is still sexism. it flavors conversation, environment, interaction with each other.
again. because you do not see it, does not mean it is not there.
last point. this is interesting to me. you say when it does happen, it is nipped in the bud cause of the strong feminist community. so let me ask you, what do you think it takes out of us, each and every time we have to call out the same bullshit. even if it is only every couple weeks. yea... you all get a more comfortable, sexist free place to be. and once again, we are having to spend our energy confronting, addressing, taking insults and mischaracterizations and all kinds of crap. bully for du, that the strong presence ensures a more comfortable, less hostile environment. then, the twist, what happens? we are the villians. throw out a hof insult, all is good. start a thread about me, say my uterus is too old to be birthing two boys, or create a rape porn scene for me, call me the b word, that is fine. i deserve it. for being a part of shutting down the sexism. that makes it so convenient for so many.
so, you can wrap your post up in a whole lot of meh... but when you unwrap it, it is not so insignificant.
just a couple points to think about.
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i cannot stay quiet. not as a democrat. a liberal. a woman. a mother. a part of society. [View all]
seabeyond
Aug 2014
OP
I need help with that, I am being targeted for NOT towing the line of white privilege
randys1
Aug 2014
#19
Unfortunately, the jury blacklist doesn't prevent selected members from alerting on you.
NYC_SKP
Aug 2014
#21
this is funny. the only one talking about it is the mens club. they have certainly created
seabeyond
Aug 2014
#33
i got it. it is da doors. a doors, all over. a totally off the wall scenario being created
seabeyond
Aug 2014
#34
i was telling someone, i have only upper teens to mid twenties around me, speaking out.
seabeyond
Aug 2014
#17
i think so too kath. i do love their voice. good to hear. i see it more and more over last couple
seabeyond
Aug 2014
#23