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seabeyond

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36. here is how i think adm and others may see it. saying there is a good feminist faction here that
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 09:21 AM
Aug 2014

addresses the sexism so there is not much of an issue. here is my reply to him. i would like more people to take the time, and think this thru. as they veiw a board that does not apear to be at a level of sexism they think we complain about.

every once in a while you see it. how much is directed at you, how often are you in the right place?

do you think that may color your perception.

example: about every woman has experienced street harassment a number of times in their lives. about EVERY woman, and a NUMBER of times in a lifetime. men say. i do not see it. ever.

so? that makes our experience invisible? less? it didnt happen?

when about every woman says, she has experienced street harassment and tells the experience, it is being dismissed with, .... i do not see it.

not directed at you men. and not directed at women, when a man is around. no you do not see it. doesnt mean it is not happen, or a womans experience is dismissed.

we have been posting on this board a decade or more with the same people. you do not think we do not know each others position? argument? so when a poster says something innocuous, it may go over most peoples head. those us of that have been following along in the conversation for years, know damn well what is being said. and the posters count on the fact others will not get the jab and it will not be hidden. sexism is sexism. whether in your face, or quiet. it is still sexism. it flavors conversation, environment, interaction with each other.

again. because you do not see it, does not mean it is not there.

last point. this is interesting to me. you say when it does happen, it is nipped in the bud cause of the strong feminist community. so let me ask you, what do you think it takes out of us, each and every time we have to call out the same bullshit. even if it is only every couple weeks. yea... you all get a more comfortable, sexist free place to be. and once again, we are having to spend our energy confronting, addressing, taking insults and mischaracterizations and all kinds of crap. bully for du, that the strong presence ensures a more comfortable, less hostile environment. then, the twist, what happens? we are the villians. throw out a hof insult, all is good. start a thread about me, say my uterus is too old to be birthing two boys, or create a rape porn scene for me, call me the b word, that is fine. i deserve it. for being a part of shutting down the sexism. that makes it so convenient for so many.

so, you can wrap your post up in a whole lot of meh... but when you unwrap it, it is not so insignificant.

just a couple points to think about.


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I got your back, seabeyond. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #1
That's a good tip NYC! JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #8
i totally forgot about that feature. mopinko Aug 2014 #10
I need help with that, I am being targeted for NOT towing the line of white privilege randys1 Aug 2014 #19
Unfortunately, the jury blacklist doesn't prevent selected members from alerting on you. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #21
Nor should you. JTFrog Aug 2014 #2
^^^^ EXCELLENT POST ^^^^ Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #6
Well said. YoungDemCA Aug 2014 #14
Two posts come to mind today BainsBane Aug 2014 #32
this is funny. the only one talking about it is the mens club. they have certainly created seabeyond Aug 2014 #33
Exactly BainsBane Aug 2014 #38
i got it. it is da doors. a doors, all over. a totally off the wall scenario being created seabeyond Aug 2014 #34
SOLIDARITY Faux pas Aug 2014 #3
And we don't want you to stay quiet YoungDemCA Aug 2014 #4
it seems so simple and basic. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #7
Well said. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #30
Me either JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #5
Same here! Kath1 Aug 2014 #27
dont stop mopinko Aug 2014 #9
high fivin' you. seabeyond Aug 2014 #11
I'm right there with you. JTFrog Aug 2014 #12
redq is what drew me back in also. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #13
Recc'ed. seabeyond we all have to keep pushing on the issues intaglio Aug 2014 #15
I grow so weary of fighting the same battles over and over. brer cat Aug 2014 #16
i was telling someone, i have only upper teens to mid twenties around me, speaking out. seabeyond Aug 2014 #17
I have 20s and early 30s around me, mainly. Daughter is 25. Kath1 Aug 2014 #22
i think so too kath. i do love their voice. good to hear. i see it more and more over last couple seabeyond Aug 2014 #23
Smart, liberal, feminist - Kath1 Aug 2014 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #18
Same here, sister! Kath1 Aug 2014 #20
"We will NOT go back!" that is really what it is about. cant/wont happen. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #24
That IS what it is about! Kath1 Aug 2014 #26
Please don't! Your voice is needed. TDale313 Aug 2014 #28
Nods - seems like the right thing to do. nt el_bryanto Aug 2014 #29
stay loud DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #31
I have just been watching the whole thing from afar. MadrasT Aug 2014 #35
here is how i think adm and others may see it. saying there is a good feminist faction here that seabeyond Aug 2014 #36
That really sums it up perfectly, sea. MadrasT Aug 2014 #37
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