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Tuesday Afternoon

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Tue Aug 12, 2014, 12:22 PM Aug 2014

HoF Thread: Rape play is NOT rape. *trigger warning* [View all]

to fantasize about ravishment and to play a game with a trusted lover is one thing =
It is a Game that has nothing to do with what is Real Rape which is a very Violent Act in which the victim has no control. Instead the victim experiences fear, pain and, horror.

When a woman fantasizes about a rape she is in total control of the fantasy which is the exact opposite of what happens in RAPE.
A game, a simulation, a hint of danger, a touch of spice, a little imagination.
The Woman in the scenario of Rape Play decides who, when, how, what is said and done.

That is NOTHING like rape.
It is just a game people (consenting adults) play.
In fact it is the Exact Opposite of Rape.

Rape is brutal and forced and the victim has no control. It is a physical assault and battery and is NOT sex no matter that genitalia as well as other body parts may be involved.

Herewith is the DoJ's legal definition of Rape =

Department of Justice
Office of Public Affairs
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Friday, January 6, 2012
Attorney General Eric Holder Announces Revisions to the Uniform Crime Report’s Definition of Rape
Data Reported on Rape Will Better Reflect State Criminal Codes, Victim Experiences

Attorney General Eric Holder today announced revisions to the Uniform Crime Report’s (UCR) definition of rape, which will lead to a more comprehensive statistical reporting of rape nationwide. The new definition is more inclusive, better reflects state criminal codes and focuses on the various forms of sexual penetration understood to be rape. The new definition of rape is: “The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.” The definition is used by the FBI to collect information from local law enforcement agencies about reported rapes.

“Rape is a devastating crime and we can’t solve it unless we know the full extent of it,” said Vice President Biden, a leader in the effort to end violence against women for over 20 years and author of the landmark Violence Against Women Act. “This long-awaited change to the definition of rape is a victory for women and men across the country whose suffering has gone unaccounted for over 80 years.”

“These long overdue updates to the definition of rape will help ensure justice for those whose lives have been devastated by sexual violence and reflect the Department of Justice’s commitment to standing with rape victims,” Attorney General Holder said. “This new, more inclusive definition will provide us with a more accurate understanding of the scope and volume of these crimes.”

“The FBI’s Criminal Justice Information Services (CJIS) Advisory Policy Board recently recommended the adoption of a revised definition of rape within the Summary Reporting System of the Uniform Crime Reporting Program,” said David Cuthbertson, FBI Assistant Director, CJIS Division. “This definitional change was recently approved by FBI Director Robert S. Mueller. This change will give law enforcement the ability to report more complete rape offense data, as the new definition reflects the vast majority of state rape statutes. As we implement this change, the FBI is confident that the number of victims of this heinous crime will be more accurately reflected in national crime statistics.” >snip

more at link: http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2012/January/12-ag-018.html



Herewith is the most current info I could find regarding Rape Play (Trigger Warning)=
This series will discuss rape play and associated topics that may be problematic for some. The intent of this series is not to upset but rather educate and empower.

Disclaimer:
Much of this is based on my opinion and my experience. There are a few areas where I have drawn from vanilla sources and I will cite those to differentiate between my opinion and more studied conclusions.

Within kink there are types of play that involve varying levels of negotiated and consensual resistance. Those types of play can be described by the umbrella term “Consensual Non-Consent”. That term is sometimes used to mean Rape Play but I challenge that rape play can be a form of consensual non-consent, but that there are other types of consensual non-consent which may not be rape play, for example interrogation scenes.

Rape play involves the bottom resisting the top’s assertion of control and sexual advances and the top taking that control. This is done within a pre-negotiated framework that enables both the top and the bottom to express their desires, limitations, and motivations. Nothing in that definition specified gender identity, sexual orientation, or physical ability because none of those attributes restrict participation in rape play. Rape play is about someone taking power and someone losing power, within a controlled and negotiated scene.>snip

more at link (advise to survivors EXTREME TRIGGER WARNING)
http://www.frozenmeursault.com/introduction-to-rape-play/

in summation I conclude that =

*Rape PLAY is to Willingly Submit*

whereas

*RAPE is to have submission FORCED*

now then, whatever One Thinks About Rape Play and Those Who Engage It is Another Discussion. But, I thought I would make this an OP for anyone who was having difficulty understanding the difference. This was a reply in another thread in GD with the same basic Subject line.
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No one here objects to consensual sexual acts, and there is a contingent for whom that is no fun. Squinch Aug 2014 #1
Yes. and it is why I thought it would be good to have an OP in HoF. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #2
I agree. I am guessing you wouldn't be able to get very far with this concept outside of a Squinch Aug 2014 #3
again I agree = I think reading comprehension or the lack of has contributed to a lot of the Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #4
No it isn't ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #5
it is a thread in GD with the almost exact same Subject Line. I don't know if you have the Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #7
Oh I trashed that thread the minute I saw it ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #9
yes, I was hesitant but, finally decided that subject matter needed clarification. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #11
Maybe I'll untrash it ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #12
might be worth the time if only to see how we can "educate" the sincerely interested in how Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #14
Too late I was out of the house for a while ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #16
even though much of the crap posted on various subjects is just out and out trolling, Kali Aug 2014 #6
thanks, Kali. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #8
it stems mercuryblues Aug 2014 #10
and now we Are throwing Rape Porn into the mix ... Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #13
the same mercuryblues Aug 2014 #17
Oh yes I totally agree with you on what is Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #18
You articulated that perfectly ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #15
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