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BainsBane

(55,406 posts)
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:43 PM Feb 2014

Shouldn't progressives/liberals treat women as human beings? [View all]

How is it that on DU it is acceptable to demean half of the population of the planet and the majority of the Democratic Party in the most vulgar and deliberately insulting terms? We are told they are our allies. Do allies resent your existence so much that they call you a "c...t.'? Do they so resent the fact that one time, for one jury, someone might once have a post hidden for calling a woman a "bi..h"? Would a liberal man see the idea that he might have to treat a woman like a human being as so objectionable that he has to post a thread to complain how oppressed he is for having to treat half the human race as thought we aren't less than human, as dogs in heat? Never mind the fact that word "bi...h" is rarely hidden. No, that's not enough. They double down and call us the foulest word in the English language to refer to women, and a jury lets it stand. The message is loud and clear. Enraged men can call you what they want; they can insist you are less than human. Women don't exist as anything except photoshopped images in Sport Illustrated for their arousal, for "steak and a BJ day," and if you don't conform to that, or perhaps even if you do, you exist only as outlets for your anger. This is an anger that you infringe even slightly on their sense of entitlement, a fury that they should be expected to behave as a civilized person toward you, a mere woman.

Is this what it now means to be a "liberal"? Does being a liberal mean that half the human race is unworthy of even the most minimal respect? Juries rule such behavior acceptable. And they want us to believe they are our allies? What kind of ally so despises you that he feels compelled to use the foulest words in the English language to demean you? What kind of ally rules that acceptable? Is a juror that calls hateful terms toward women "acceptable" a liberal or an ally? What kind of version of liberalism is DU now advancing that writes women out of the body politic?

As for the content of the poster's comment: I would submit an adult should use a vocabulary of an educated person rather than relying on either of the terms listed. One could actually explain the substance of his or her objection to whatever idea or action is being critiqued rather than relying on insults. If someone lacks sufficient command of the English language to think of appropriate alternatives, I suggest this: http://thesaurus.com/

On Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:03 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

Well cunt-ish wouldn't be okay. I guess we have to stick with dick-ish. nt
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1114&pid=12936

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

Offensive use of vulgar, misogynist language. "Cuntish" = cunt = ish. What kind of person thinks that kind of thing is okay? This level of hatred for women and their bodies is pathological not fitting a civilized website. The Democratic Party includes women. This is way over the top.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:09 PM, and voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: ...on-going debate over acceptable hate-terms, nothing to see, folks, keep moving...
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is a comparison and complaint about the use of various sexist remarks, it is not an endorsement nor use of the word
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: But Dickish is OK? Whole thread is immature and childish. The whole thing should be wiped clean. But this one post being worse than the others? Nope.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: "But he/she did it first" is no defense. Way over the top. The 'c' word, yet. shameful.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you.

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the derp is strong in TMG, Baines. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #1
any man using the c word is bottom feeding filth and for particular people to use that seabeyond Feb 2014 #2
he is a friggen HOST of the mens group. way to lead. and not a SINGLE man was manly enough seabeyond Feb 2014 #3
Far from unbelievable, really. This is par for the course and we all know it. redqueen Feb 2014 #10
it is disgusting. in a life time, i was not around men that went after that word to offend women. seabeyond Feb 2014 #12
I have low expectations of people who work so hard to not get called "liberal" Scootaloo Feb 2014 #4
and another thing. i was told today by the other host that this is all about retaliation. seabeyond Feb 2014 #5
Retaliation for what? BainsBane Feb 2014 #18
we are bullies. i will see if i can find the link. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #19
here seabeyond Feb 2014 #20
Oh, retaliation for having the nerve to disagree with a man BainsBane Feb 2014 #21
that one seems to really hate and resent women JI7 Feb 2014 #6
yes. he uses the word whenever he can. about half get hid. guess he is feeling pretty comfortable seabeyond Feb 2014 #8
one other thing.... i advocated hiding dick with the few men complaining cause they were all in seabeyond Feb 2014 #7
Yep, they don't even try to hide the fact that they're playing bullshit games. redqueen Feb 2014 #11
skinner says using the c word is tos. this poster has a history. he did it today to be as offensive seabeyond Feb 2014 #13
The jury system sucks... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #9
it is bullshit. the c word is tos'able per skinner. start tossing. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #14
I agree. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #16
All persons - women, men, transgendered, genderfluid - should be treated has human beings. Maedhros Feb 2014 #15
Actual progressives/liberals DO treat women as human beings. MadrasT Feb 2014 #17
1+ ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #23
here is one that was hid. seabeyond Feb 2014 #22
I'm disgusted. Texasgal Feb 2014 #24
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