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BainsBane

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133. It is not bullshit that they refused to testify

Mon Feb 10, 2014, 02:07 PM

Feb 2014

The judge said as much. One doctor submitted a statement but refused to submit for cross examination. There was no way for the judge to gauge the truthfulness, methods, or reliabilty of their statement. That coupled with the fact they destroyed their notes, a highly irregular move, and failed to follow professional guidelines in other ways led the judge to rule it non-credible.

Moses may claim that now, but there was no evidence presented in the custody case for that. None.
The judge said there was no evidence of brainwashing. The judged ruled the New Haven team's report uncredible for a host of reasons he makes very clear, which you would know if you bothered to read the legal ruling.

Dylan's story was consistent, not only from 1992 to the present but also to the various authorities she told her account to after it occured: those include a family doctor, the therapist hired by Woody Allen, and the state therapist appointed by the family court. She also told Mia.

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The vilification of Mia Farrow on DU [View all] CTyankee Feb 2014 OP

Not only that cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Feb 2014 #2

we think the molestation of a child is very much a feminist issue. we also think the vilification seabeyond Feb 2014 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Feb 2014 #6

no. you are wrong. you came to a conclusion without knowledge or facts... lol seabeyond Feb 2014 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Feb 2014 #10

ok. we are going to disagree for numerous reasons. but, i do not think that matters, and seabeyond Feb 2014 #12

actually, there is huge value to this mess. It shows a textbook case on how to slander your roguevalley Feb 2014 #94

Hardly BainsBane Feb 2014 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Feb 2014 #25

You don't know what you're takling about BainsBane Feb 2014 #26

How odd BainsBane Feb 2014 #15

I know, huh? Cha Feb 2014 #97

Frightening and so common... Evergreen Emerald Feb 2014 #3

defense of male privilege and entitlement at ALL cost. yes. further, there is absolute evidence seabeyond Feb 2014 #4

there is one truly repulsive one in the Men's Group. CTyankee Feb 2014 #7

no. it is not what the two men that started up the group inspired to. they actively worked seabeyond Feb 2014 #9

I'm sorry I went there. It is a cesspool IMO. CTyankee Feb 2014 #11

i really want that .... women are liars OP. going back hunting. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #13

Only one? MadrasT Feb 2014 #86

It is disheartening BainsBane Feb 2014 #14

I wonder how that judge feels now...big mistake on his part...how goddamn tragic... CTyankee Feb 2014 #17

How is a mistake on the judge's part? BainsBane Feb 2014 #18

well, I understand why he didn't want Dylan to suffer but this can't make him feel good... CTyankee Feb 2014 #19

When you say mistake cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #31

Yeah, I guess...what a terrible choice to make isn't it... CTyankee Feb 2014 #54

I don't know. Allen was throwing all his money and all his Squinch Feb 2014 #71

the judge was in a bind, no doubt about it... CTyankee Feb 2014 #73

BUT...he did take care of the child. no custody for allen. no visitation, no supervised seabeyond Feb 2014 #76

Yes, it is a terrible choice to make. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #135

The opinion from the judge is very helpful Gothmog Feb 2014 #134

Seems line it's pretty justified Gman Feb 2014 #20

what would be mias reasoning for brainwashing the girl? seabeyond Feb 2014 #21

Dunno. You'd have to ask her. Gman Feb 2014 #23

so, court documents says she did not do that. kids said she didnt. therapist said she didnt. seabeyond Feb 2014 #59

Yup and you have to ask her Gman Feb 2014 #117

Are you honestly asking that? CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #29

yes. so tell me? her reason. seabeyond Feb 2014 #57

As a father of two children , living with my ex , who has enough blind hatred of ME ... pkdu Feb 2014 #106

maybe you should "deal with it" being facts. even after mia foudn out her partner was fucking her seabeyond Feb 2014 #108

go up and read the judges decision. Mia was slandered. Of course the little creep is going roguevalley Feb 2014 #95

oh, but that judge in that courtroom was biased. boston bean Feb 2014 #99

Don't matter Gman Feb 2014 #109

ah. so really, you are just throwing shit out, knowing it is shit slinging. gotcha. we will seabeyond Feb 2014 #110

I just don't know what to think about the accusations against Woody Allen by Mia Farrow JDPriestly Feb 2014 #22

What are you talking about? BainsBane Feb 2014 #24

You need to read the actual investigator's report. CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #36

Do you have a link to the state investigators report? BainsBane Feb 2014 #82

"other than Rowan is not ugly" Madam Mossfern Feb 2014 #53

What race is that? Pedohpiles? BainsBane Feb 2014 #85

Who claimed that Rowan was not Woody's child? I thought it was Rowan and Mia. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #91

I wonder how Sinatra's widow, Barbara, feels about the claim dflprincess Feb 2014 #87

The vigilance with which some people defend him el_bryanto Feb 2014 #27

If Mia Farrow... CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #32

If that is what happened than you are right el_bryanto Feb 2014 #51

there is NO evidence mia did that. stated in court documents. the timeline of her taking care of seabeyond Feb 2014 #77

she didn't. read the report. then your 'ifs' will be unnecessary. she didn't do what you roguevalley Feb 2014 #96

No evidence? CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #28

Oh, do tell gaspee Feb 2014 #38

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #45

Blah blah blah blah blah gaspee Feb 2014 #46

One last note... CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #50

The Yale New Haven team REFUSED to testify BainsBane Feb 2014 #114

There were therapists Allen did pay for BainsBane Feb 2014 #115

thank you. geez...all I've seen is Woody's blather...that's "evidence"? CTyankee Feb 2014 #60

there isn't but since you believe there is, post it. seriously. facts please. ANd no, I am not roguevalley Feb 2014 #98

"It is our expert opinion that Dylan was not sexually abused by Mr. Allen." baldguy Feb 2014 #30

Maybe you could help me by refreshing my memory cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #34

Thank you. CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #35

You are either gaspee Feb 2014 #37

Well... CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #40

Why gaspee Feb 2014 #41

why did they burn the notes? why did they refuse to go on the stand? nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #62

Clearly you didn't read about the Yale New haven team in the court ruling BainsBane Feb 2014 #39

I wouldn't even bother gaspee Feb 2014 #43

Bullshit CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #49

judge asked and he was demied. in his court document seabeyond Feb 2014 #66

It is not bullshit that they refused to testify BainsBane Feb 2014 #133

read the judges report. Yale is discredited. roguevalley Feb 2014 #100

Some of the worst perpetrators gaspee Feb 2014 #33

Beginning with the OP. baldguy Feb 2014 #44

Why are you posting in this group gaspee Feb 2014 #47

I didn't know certain groups were restricted to "special" people. baldguy Feb 2014 #48

getting info from court document as opposed to allens story? seabeyond Feb 2014 #65

I think you have me confused with someone else gaspee Feb 2014 #79

absolutely i do. i was speaking to baldguy. thank you. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #81

I can't believe people are wasting DU to talk about celebrity shit. eom TransitJohn Feb 2014 #42

Yeah Madam Mossfern Feb 2014 #58

this isn't about celebrity shit. this is the way a perp slanders someone and walks. roguevalley Feb 2014 #101

Your referring to him as a perp Madam Mossfern Feb 2014 #107

I think she was speaking in general cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #116

I guess that could be so Madam Mossfern Feb 2014 #118

wow. and that says it all. seabeyond Feb 2014 #119

It was way back in the 1970's Madam Mossfern Feb 2014 #120

in montana a 14 yr old girl was raped by a grown man in his 40's. she ended up committing suicide. seabeyond Feb 2014 #122

False allegations hurt everyone cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #121

I like how some believe Moses and Woody without question. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #52

Thanks for starting this thread. I didn't know about attacks as I don't read most posts. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2014 #55

I haven't noticed more vilification of Mia here than I've seen of Woody (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2014 #56

It has been in some places, but not in HoF... CTyankee Feb 2014 #64

mia didnt molest a child. woody did. why would there not be more.... vilification of woody. seabeyond Feb 2014 #67

It's impossible for any of us to know with certainty. thesquanderer Feb 2014 #78

not only did the judge read it all, and listening to both speak, read the experts, police and seabeyond Feb 2014 #83

Read this and see if you still think it's black and white thesquanderer Feb 2014 #88

then i guess you need to read dylans response to his last word. seabeyond Feb 2014 #89

Thanks for that, I hadn't seen it thesquanderer Feb 2014 #90

I'll probably regret doing this... davidpdx Feb 2014 #61

I haven't seen that among those here. CTyankee Feb 2014 #63

I have seen someone say it davidpdx Feb 2014 #69

I've seen several people say exactly what was claimed. It's not a faux argument. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #72

I don't think feminists were saying it, tho. I haven't seen it... CTyankee Feb 2014 #74

Are you going to be the arbitrator for who is and who is not a feminist? Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #75

people who are not informed have said it. and after a correction i have not seen any of those seabeyond Feb 2014 #80

There's a concerted effort to make guesswork fact on both sides. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #84

Oh, get over yourself, will ya!? boston bean Feb 2014 #92

In what way am I not over myself? Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #93

cant help that all do not have those facts straight. it depends how much one is informed. seabeyond Feb 2014 #68

I agree with you on both accounts davidpdx Feb 2014 #70

given that he's been in therapy for what? FIFTY YEARS!? I think he needs a refund. roguevalley Feb 2014 #102

what would a person have to talk about for 50 yrs, lol. lordy. really, seabeyond Feb 2014 #103

Just think about listening to it for 50 years. A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2014 #105

i know... lol. i did. then i thought, nah, he has to change out every couple years. seabeyond Feb 2014 #111

I know. He goes several times a week I remember once when 60 minutes did roguevalley Feb 2014 #112

A lot of people do that. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #113

Once I was falsely accused of some form of sexual inappropriateness maggies farm Feb 2014 #104

Welcome to DU gopiscrap Feb 2014 #123

I'm really sorry that happened to you, maggies farm. In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #131

Some excellent analysis here: Z_I_Peevey Feb 2014 #124

2000 words trying to make Mia Farrow sound like a crazy bitch, presenting incomplete and false info seabeyond Feb 2014 #125

Two embedded links in the essay point to statement analyses of both Dylan Farrow's and Z_I_Peevey Feb 2014 #127

i will get on that a little later. gotta give up puter for a while. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #129

Wow, what a piece that is! VERY powerful. It DESTROYS Allen... CTyankee Feb 2014 #126

so much more i could have copied and pasted. the attic part was really interesting. seabeyond Feb 2014 #128

Thanks for that. There is no way any reasonable person can continue to peddle false balance, redqueen Feb 2014 #132

Thanks for that. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #137

I love Mia Farrow. I believe Dylan Farrow. I totally believe that Woody Allen is basically an kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #130

Reminds me a lot of the attacks on Anita Hill. Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #136

yes. that anita hill situation was a huge eye opener to me, seabeyond Feb 2014 #138