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jeff47

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65. False memories are not "doubtful" memories.

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 01:18 AM

Feb 2014

First, I have no idea what actually happened in this particular case and I'm not talking about this specific case.

But just because a memory is false does not mean the person having the memory has doubt.

We've all come across something in our lives where we were absolutely sure events unfolded in a different order, or at a different place. Sure, the situations were far less critical ("Wait, I thought we first met at the bowling alley&quot , but that same certainty can apply to far more critical events.

There's a famous study where groups of people was shown a video of a car driving around. Then the car crashed. People were asked a bunch of questions about the events in the video, and how sure they were about their answers. One of the questions was, "What color was the barn?". The majority answered red, and that they were sure of their answer.

There was no barn in the video.

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Regarding the response to Dylan Farrow's letter: [View all] redqueen Feb 2014 OP

Yep. It's pretty sickening. Arugula Latte Feb 2014 #1

Woody Allen married his wife's adopted daughter. boston bean Feb 2014 #2

He is a disgusting pervert who should have gotten the Michael Jackson treatment Triana Feb 2014 #6

Point of fact: Mia Farrow and Woody Allen were never married. PassingFair Feb 2014 #15

It happened in 1992, which was part of it. People hadn't gotten used to hearing pnwmom Feb 2014 #28

I believe that in MJ's case, the fact that the victims were boys BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #32

Exactly my sentiments... Triana Feb 2014 #39

yep…that was a good post. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #55

re: Female victims aren't as believable. redqueen Feb 2014 #41

females are also "expendable" BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #49

Led Zeppelin - another example of being unable to enjoy the art after learning about the artists. redqueen Feb 2014 #50

Well, the reason for bashing rap and not rock is pretty simple... Scootaloo Feb 2014 #52

Same reason Charlie Sheen and Chris Brown faced very different reactions from the public nt redqueen Feb 2014 #54

Yes, your observations are correct and the injustice & inhumanity of it all whathehell Feb 2014 #103

yes, me too. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #119

I feel the same way whathehell Feb 2014 #121

Oh, but they weren't "married" gaspee Feb 2014 #9

If men molest girls, it's accepted - made excuses for. If they molest boys, it's not. Triana Feb 2014 #22

I couldn't even read that thread. redqueen Feb 2014 #26

No don't. I haven't seen worse, both in content and in the Squinch Feb 2014 #61

Agreed. historylovr Feb 2014 #100

And new threads like it keep popping up. Squinch Feb 2014 #101

Thanks for the warning. historylovr Feb 2014 #105

Yes on all counts. Squinch Feb 2014 #106

no, they weren't married - it was a correction to some one who called Mia his wife. hollysmom Feb 2014 #56

Wow. You really expect a woman to have dates memorized? redqueen Feb 2014 #79

She provided the dates - I never asked anything, I am just a witness to what I saw happening. hollysmom Feb 2014 #104

Where are you getting "recovered memories" from? Dylan did not recover any memories. redqueen Feb 2014 #110

Why is it bending over backwards to just say you don't know? hollysmom Feb 2014 #113

It is bending over backwards when you are grasping at straws, introducing entirely unrelated issues, redqueen Feb 2014 #114

who did that? hollysmom Feb 2014 #117

Amazing. bravenak Feb 2014 #90

See what I'm saying? redqueen Feb 2014 #93

It's creepy as hell. bravenak Feb 2014 #94

I have no tolerance for it. Tying yourself in knots trying to prove Dylan shouldn't be believed redqueen Feb 2014 #96

They think they sound 'intelligent' and 'logical' by with holding judgement. bravenak Feb 2014 #97

I amthe bad guy? you are judging me for things I did not say and I am the bad guy!!! hollysmom Feb 2014 #107

You have decided some event entirely unrelated to Dylan Farrow BainsBane Feb 2014 #108

the only other place I have seen people be so insulting is in Freeperville. hollysmom Feb 2014 #111

You did not have to respond. bravenak Feb 2014 #109

No he did not... Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2014 #20

They maintained two residences, but they spent a lot of time together. pnwmom Feb 2014 #30

Like I said... Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2014 #38

It's too late to prosecute him, I believe. So all that's left is individual people making up pnwmom Feb 2014 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author jeff47 Feb 2014 #64

For child molestation. He could be charged with other crimes. jeff47 Feb 2014 #66

It's because it's so much easier to give cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #3

I keep asking myself Why would one put theirself through all this public Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #4

She probably can't gaspee Feb 2014 #12

False memories are not "doubtful" memories. jeff47 Feb 2014 #65

dude. when I use -()- around a word or group of words that should give you some Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #68

It's not a terminology issue. jeff47 Feb 2014 #69

No shit, Sherlock. N/t Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #71

So you made a post...to say something you don't believe. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2014 #72

No. But, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #73

Your point was certainty meant you believed her. jeff47 Feb 2014 #74

U r funny. Bye now. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #98

You're really comparing an extraneous, meaningless detail redqueen Feb 2014 #77

Nope. jeff47 Feb 2014 #89

Here comes McMartin again. redqueen Feb 2014 #92

Yeah, it sucks when someone has a different opinion. jeff47 Feb 2014 #95

It also sucks that more than 94% of abuse allegations turn out to be true. LanternWaste Feb 2014 #99

In this country, people are innocent until proven guilty shenmue Feb 2014 #5

Many guilty people are never found guilty of a damned thing. boston bean Feb 2014 #7

I am not attacking her. shenmue Feb 2014 #8

Hard to do when people don't frickin believe women who have been molested, raped, assaulted. boston bean Feb 2014 #11

Since most rapists gaspee Feb 2014 #13

True that! boston bean Feb 2014 #14

So let's just throw people in jail without a trial shenmue Feb 2014 #16

Well how about we start gaspee Feb 2014 #17

Who said to throw him in jail without a trial? boston bean Feb 2014 #18

No JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #34

My neighbor made a pass at me AndreaCG Feb 2014 #53

It's too late to prosecute him. This often happens in child sexual abuse crimes. pnwmom Feb 2014 #33

Thank you for stating that. n/t truedelphi Feb 2014 #10

None of us are jury or judge, though cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #19

He can't be prosecuted BainsBane Feb 2014 #25

The "tone" of some of those posts is kind of amazing too. Squinch Feb 2014 #21

fuck, I haven't read that shit BainsBane Feb 2014 #24

No, don't wade in there. It isn't worth it. And that is a good point: Squinch Feb 2014 #59

+1 N/T JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #31

so true. default assumption=women lie. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #35

The desperation in the need to defend him was so overblown. Squinch Feb 2014 #60

yes, i absolutely noticed that BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #63

Yeah, it's pretty disgusting to watch. nt cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #83

I read a really awful defense in the Daily Beast BainsBane Feb 2014 #23

you could see a ravaged soul in the picture of her. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #37

Some of us remember when the whole thing happened CBGLuthier Feb 2014 #27

Maybe you should have waited to form your final judgment till you heard from the grown up girl. pnwmom Feb 2014 #36

Did Mia Farrow enter into a sexual relationship with her adopted son? perdita9 Feb 2014 #46

I agree....and it's interesting that Mia's son, who is a therapist, backs Allen. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #47

I have no idea what happened... but i think RQ is referring to the responses here on DU Scootaloo Feb 2014 #51

And just as interesting that the other ELEVEN living children back Dylan. Squinch Feb 2014 #102

What does that have to do with Dylan's truthfulness? BainsBane Feb 2014 #57

Thank you for posting this JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #29

Playing tapes... yes... that's something a lot of people live with. redqueen Feb 2014 #42

^^^^ excellent Cut and Paste ^^^^ MUST READ ^^^^ thank you for posting it. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #62

Oh wow, thank you for the link! cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #85

tumblr is an awesome website redqueen Feb 2014 #87

Oh, I know. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #91

I used to love Woody Allen's movies, but... MarianJack Feb 2014 #43

It's weird VA_Jill Feb 2014 #44

Me too. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #88

Soon Yi Previn is all the proof I need... perdita9 Feb 2014 #45

+1 Inspired Feb 2014 #48

There is also his sickening "affair" with a 17-year-old high school student Arugula Latte Feb 2014 #70

Yep. bravenak Feb 2014 #86

It has been painful and disturbing to see TDale313 Feb 2014 #58

Rape culture doesn't arise by accident BainsBane Feb 2014 #67

One thing that jumps out at me gaspee Feb 2014 #75

Yes, that jumps out at me, too. nt redqueen Feb 2014 #78

Is it wrong that I find myself afraid of people who are attacking a little girl who was molested? bravenak Feb 2014 #76

No, it isn't wrong. It's natural to be wary of people who seem to have more concern for protecting redqueen Feb 2014 #80

Thank you. bravenak Feb 2014 #81

Same here. I'm going to have to bail on this thread, too, I think. redqueen Feb 2014 #82

I can see why. bravenak Feb 2014 #84

I have read the letter and some of the responses Gothmog Feb 2014 #112

And I'm sure Dylan knows she can be taken to court for defamation. redqueen Feb 2014 #115

That fact played a small role in my assessment Gothmog Feb 2014 #116

I was just saying today ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #118

It's so gross seeing DUers defending the idea of middle-aged people dating teenagers. redqueen Feb 2014 #120