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pnwmom

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20. Yes! There is this view that gay people are too enlightened to be sexist,

Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:53 AM

Jan 2014

when actually gay people are just as imperfect as anyone else. And some gay people are even capable of misogyny and sexism.

My dad was always patting himself on the back for being a huge feminist with three daughters. And yet he was capable of sexism as blatant as any straight man. For example, he told me not to raise my hand in school or the boys wouldn't like me! He critiqued my body in a way my husband would NEVER critique our daughter's (I would kill him if he did -- but he never would have, anyway, because he loves her too much). Just because he was gay didn't make my dad immune from the effects of a culture that routinely puts women in their place.

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A gay man calls out misogyny in gay male subculture [View all] BainsBane Jan 2014 OP

to the best of my knowledge that is not true in my relationships, but then I hollysmom Jan 2014 #1

I've only experienced a bit of this in real life BainsBane Jan 2014 #2

the brush seems overly broad here geek tragedy Jan 2014 #3

Considering the author is himself a gay man BainsBane Jan 2014 #4

very possibly, but i'm always suspicious of cultural pieces that geek tragedy Jan 2014 #5

It's not just based on television footage. nt redqueen Jan 2014 #6

How do they know the women are straight? BainsBane Jan 2014 #10

obviously gay men can be sexist and practice sexism, I certainly geek tragedy Jan 2014 #16

And so can lesbians. pnwmom Jan 2014 #22

I don't think the author is accusing all gay men of acting this way. pnwmom Jan 2014 #18

I'm really glad to see this. redqueen Jan 2014 #7

I knew that already, but the article is a very good read. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #8

why can't human beings treat other human beings with a modicaum of respect, a tiny amount Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #9

Every geoup has its jerks, but please do not blame everyone in a group for the actions of uppityperson Jan 2014 #11

Firstly, the author is a gay man. He isn't blaming anyone. BainsBane Jan 2014 #12

Are you saying all gay men are misogynistic? Or that it is a "cultural tendency" of gay men to uppityperson Jan 2014 #13

No, I am saying we live in a sexist, racist and homophobic culture BainsBane Jan 2014 #14

Thanks for the clarification. Bigotry is so ingrained many do not recognize it most of the time. uppityperson Jan 2014 #15

Yes! There is this view that gay people are too enlightened to be sexist, pnwmom Jan 2014 #20

Where are you getting that? That's not what the poster is saying, or the article in the OP. pnwmom Jan 2014 #27

Who is extrapolating this to the whole group? It's written by a gay man pnwmom Jan 2014 #19

Start by looking at the title of the thread. "gay male subculture". uppityperson Jan 2014 #23

I guess we're reading that differently. I read that as "a subculture of the larger gay community." pnwmom Jan 2014 #25

Even if it did, that is not the same as saying "all gay men are misogynsits" BainsBane Jan 2014 #26

Do you know why this article got locked in GD? n/t pnwmom Jan 2014 #17

It looks like the OP was PPR'd BainsBane Jan 2014 #21

infovirio, here is their profile link. uppityperson Jan 2014 #24

FWIW, if anyone is interested, it was a caver uppityperson Jan 2014 #34

I see the poster was. Not the writer of the article, though, pnwmom Jan 2014 #36

I agree, just thought some might be interested in seeing who posted that and was banned uppityperson Jan 2014 #37

I was going to say that the resistance to discussing this issue is bizarre. redqueen Jan 2014 #28

Behavior like this is why I spend virtually no time in the LGBT group here. Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #29

That whole situation is disturbing. redqueen Jan 2014 #30

The entire incident was disturbing. Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #32

I'm glad you spoke out, I remember that situation and believe you had support from other women seaglass Jan 2014 #31

Yes. I had support from other women, Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #33

I've heard that many lesbians feel unwelcome there BainsBane Jan 2014 #35

How do you mean? I thought f/m terminology had split into xommon useage of uppityperson Jan 2014 #39

Do you mean the part about gay and heteronormative? BainsBane Jan 2014 #40

yes, thank you. That post was jury hidden, 6-0 as it should have been.It was both uppityperson Jan 2014 #41

Actually the post I'm thinking of wasn't hidden BainsBane Jan 2014 #42

It is also not a safe place for children of gays to post on sensitive issues. pnwmom Jan 2014 #38