History of Feminism

TreasonousBastard

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15. You do have a point...

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:34 AM

Jan 2014

there is that "winner" thing. While it does point out that girls are "losers" in throwing fastballs or long golf drives, I'm not sure there's a value judgment going on there. If you do value fastballs as extremely important in your life, women will be forever losers; but most of us are a little more complex than that. A game is just a game, after all.

Aside from that, there was a lot of talk about society being "feminized" and that maybe it's not such a bad thing. Constant competition, as in "manly pursuits" tends to be draining while there's a lot to be said for cooperation..

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"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, ... (WARNING: HOF THREAD) [View all] redqueen Jan 2014 OP

Deep and ingrained but, you explained Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #1

Thanks. redqueen Jan 2014 #2

You know, I think his quote definitely can work here too. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #3

Thanks redqueen Jan 2014 #5

But, what if women were... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #4

I'm not following you. redqueen Jan 2014 #6

I'm not sure what unrelated historical inaccuracies.. TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #14

You find it's best to ignore them? Is that supposed to mean something? redqueen Jan 2014 #18

Yes. And it means they do the job... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #20

Yeah. Words mean little. That's totally doubleplus true. redqueen Jan 2014 #22

You have a lot of nerve to come into a protected group and tell us to ignore Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #24

Well, I do agree with you in this cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #7

But 'don't throw like a girl' and 'be a man' are both phrases denigrating to women Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #8

They imply that they should "be real men" what ever that is cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #9

You do have a point... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #15

I tend you agree with you in the last point. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #25

I agree that the glorification of strength and power have become obsolete. But how Squinch Jan 2014 #13

What if women are actually superior? ismnotwasm Jan 2014 #16

Superior at what? I don't... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #17

"For some reason buried in prehistory...we tend to celebrate males". No. redqueen Jan 2014 #19

I don't see any point in continuing to participate in this thread. TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #21

Since you're basically insisting that language has nothing to do with oppression, redqueen Jan 2014 #23

I could link to a dozen papers and it still wouldn't do any good ismnotwasm Jan 2014 #29

Yeah, I wasn't even going to go there. redqueen Jan 2014 #31

What do you mean 'if'. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #26

Heh! ismnotwasm Jan 2014 #30

I think it's both funny and sad that you have to put a "HOF Thread" warning in the title. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #10

Heh, yeah... I just didn't want to attract any anti-feminist input. redqueen Jan 2014 #11

Me too. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #12

I really don't understand why so many men are such amuse bouche Jan 2014 #27

It's just part of our culture. redqueen Jan 2014 #32

I think you are right The Traveler Jan 2014 #28

"Change the use of language, you change the underlying patterns of thought, and vice-versa." redqueen Jan 2014 #33