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cinnabonbon

(860 posts)
7. Well, I do agree with you in this
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jan 2014
these insults are archaically and excessively celebrating male prowess at whatever.


But I do think that celebrating men and masculinity (like in for example, "be a man" "Don't throw like a girl&quot is still putting women and femininity down as inferior, directly and/or indirectly. The ideal in society is to be a man, and preferably manly. Women can never be these things, and will be ridiculed and fought if they act like they're equal to men (and by this I mean that they don't sugarcoat their opinions, and they don't coddle the men they meet, like what is expected of women).

I mean, it's like a football match. When one team wins, we celebrate them and the things they do and try to bask in the glory of it. The losing team is still considered losers, and we either try to erase them from our memory or they get mocked. Both of these things happen at the same time, one can't exist without the other.

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Deep and ingrained but, you explained Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #1
Thanks. redqueen Jan 2014 #2
You know, I think his quote definitely can work here too. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #3
Thanks redqueen Jan 2014 #5
But, what if women were... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #4
I'm not following you. redqueen Jan 2014 #6
I'm not sure what unrelated historical inaccuracies.. TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #14
You find it's best to ignore them? Is that supposed to mean something? redqueen Jan 2014 #18
Yes. And it means they do the job... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #20
Yeah. Words mean little. That's totally doubleplus true. redqueen Jan 2014 #22
You have a lot of nerve to come into a protected group and tell us to ignore Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #24
Well, I do agree with you in this cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #7
But 'don't throw like a girl' and 'be a man' are both phrases denigrating to women Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #8
They imply that they should "be real men" what ever that is cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #9
You do have a point... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #15
I tend you agree with you in the last point. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #25
I agree that the glorification of strength and power have become obsolete. But how Squinch Jan 2014 #13
What if women are actually superior? ismnotwasm Jan 2014 #16
Superior at what? I don't... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #17
"For some reason buried in prehistory...we tend to celebrate males". No. redqueen Jan 2014 #19
I don't see any point in continuing to participate in this thread. TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #21
Since you're basically insisting that language has nothing to do with oppression, redqueen Jan 2014 #23
I could link to a dozen papers and it still wouldn't do any good ismnotwasm Jan 2014 #29
Yeah, I wasn't even going to go there. redqueen Jan 2014 #31
What do you mean 'if'. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #26
Heh! ismnotwasm Jan 2014 #30
I think it's both funny and sad that you have to put a "HOF Thread" warning in the title. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #10
Heh, yeah... I just didn't want to attract any anti-feminist input. redqueen Jan 2014 #11
Me too. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #12
I really don't understand why so many men are such amuse bouche Jan 2014 #27
It's just part of our culture. redqueen Jan 2014 #32
I think you are right The Traveler Jan 2014 #28
"Change the use of language, you change the underlying patterns of thought, and vice-versa." redqueen Jan 2014 #33
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