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BainsBane

(55,498 posts)
4. I appreciate your apology
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 09:15 PM
Jan 2014

and appreciate that you put yourself out by extending the apology publicly. I know that isn't a popular thing to do on this site.

Positions that feminists take on pornography, however, are not the same as those of the right. The right opposes human trafficking. Does that make slavery okay? From what I can see, no one bothered to read the various views members here have on pornography (and they do vary quite a bit). So I don't know how you or anyone else could claim to know what our respective arguments are.

Disagreeing is fine. Thinking people will disagree. That is inevitable. What bothers me is dismissing everything anyone says by an appeal to HOF extremism and assuming we are a single horde here rather than individuals, like members of any other safe haven group. People blame all HOF posters for something one says. That's ridiculous. We don't get together and plot out a common response for posts. I am responsible for every stupid or inappropriate thing I have ever said but not for those of anyone else, whether they post in HOF or somewhere else.

Still, I welcome your OP and accept your apology.

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Hey "Radical" Feminists [View all] arely staircase Jan 2014 OP
Would you mind clarifying what you are asking forgiveness for? BainsBane Jan 2014 #1
being a smartass instead of trying to reach an understanding arely staircase Jan 2014 #2
I appreciate your apology BainsBane Jan 2014 #4
right wing and left wing opponents of pornography do indeed oppeose it for different reasons arely staircase Jan 2014 #6
Rec for "yes means yes" MadrasT Jan 2014 #3
thank you and yes the porn thing is complicated arely staircase Jan 2014 #5
I haven't seen anyone say that porn should be banned. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #18
+1 nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #37
Thanks for this. redqueen Jan 2014 #7
viva leticia arely staircase Jan 2014 #8
There's a pretty well defined meaning behind "rape culture." Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #9
no there really isnt arely staircase Jan 2014 #10
I'm not super into the whole "agree to disagree" theme on this subject. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #11
it is a concept upon which arely staircase Jan 2014 #12
You do a lot of academic level reading in feminist theory? Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #13
oh mother arely staircase Jan 2014 #14
No agreement at all? Really? redqueen Jan 2014 #15
That is true for virtually everything BainsBane Jan 2014 #16
Disagreement between people on the same side is ultimately healthy cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #17
re: "yes means yes" redqueen Jan 2014 #21
I don't recognize cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #23
Read them and cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #28
I'm so glad you enjoyed it! She really breaks it down well. redqueen Jan 2014 #29
She really did. I love it when people use theory to explain, like she did. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #30
I live in the UK... radtransfem Feb 2014 #34
Thank you for the clarification, Lisa! cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #35
Aw, radtransfem Feb 2014 #36
And I think many on the left often uses pro-porn stances as a means of escaping sexual shame ismnotwasm Jan 2014 #19
But even at best, it's not enough. The "prop" that is. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #38
what we should preach is mzteris Jan 2014 #20
Some will compare porn to other jobs as if they're analogous, redqueen Jan 2014 #22
I was reading about this yesterday cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #24
There's a lot of denial going on, for self-described liberals and progressives to be defending this redqueen Jan 2014 #25
There is no limit (no bottom) to human cruelty. We are a sick, sick species. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #39
I don't want to derail your post in the men's group noamnety Jan 2014 #26
Ugh, is that going on in that group? redqueen Jan 2014 #27
I'm at a loss for an appropriate answer. noamnety Jan 2014 #31
If it's a sincere attempt at honest discussion, the guilt by association bullshit needs to stop. redqueen Jan 2014 #32
I really respect and mzteris Jan 2014 #33
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