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MarvinGardens

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13. If someone hasn't heard the athiest, or secular, position explained, they aren't looking very hard.

Sun May 19, 2019, 09:30 PM

May 2019

I recently read "The Big Picture", by Sean Carroll. It's both a popular physics and metaphysics exposition. It's fairly recent. He summarizes a non-religious belief system (he calls it naturalism). Another one I found interesting, more physics than metaphysics, is "The End of Certainty" by Ilya Prigogine (Nobel laureate). The main points I took away from it are (1) thermodynamics can explain very complex systems, including life, and (2) determinism is false, and it is not merely a measurement problem.

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of course Voltaire2 May 2019 #7

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Hm, maybe. trev May 2019 #11

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If someone hasn't heard the athiest, or secular, position explained, they aren't looking very hard. MarvinGardens May 2019 #13