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zipplewrath

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27. Whole book about this
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 11:19 AM
Apr 2019

"Ideas: A History of Thought and Invention, from Fire to Freud" by Peter Watson

It is a real slog to get through, but in the end it is roughly one of his conclusions. We've advanced in many ways over the centuries and created alot of ideas that have grown and matured. The one idea that has remained relatively stagnant over that period is that of spirituality in all its forms. We keep re-inventing concepts over and over, regularly changing names, or merging ideas together in new combinations. But fundamentally each generation just co-opts the aspects they need or want and effectively "start over".

It's actually what leads to alot of people moving away from their various organized religions during their lives. At some point they are having the same discussions over and over, reading the same basic texts, and coming to the same conclusions. It is especially true with parents whose involvement is predominately for the purpose of raising children with some sense of a moral set of guidelines. Once the children are gone, the church has diminished purpose for them, and they often find themselves on the "outside" of the community as a new generation joins to raise their children.

Much of this phenomenon is because an awful lot of religion and spirituality is about the unknowable. Many religions and other spiritual concepts rely heavily upon the concept of faith of the unknowable. The nature of God, the after life (if there is such a thing), and other related concepts are often presented as unknowable or undetectable. Feynman would explain that in science, we don't spend alot of time thinking or working on concepts that can't be known. There's really no point. But people are fascinate by these questions, and have been for at least as long as there has been language. But because the answers are "unknowable", there will be this lack of growth because there is no knowledge upon which to build. Thus the static nature of spirituality over the millennia.

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Here Is an Animated Film - Showing Actual Individual Atoms Being Moved Around MineralMan Apr 2019 #1
Wow. Watched the clip. Amazing. Thanks for sharing. NT SWBTATTReg Apr 2019 #3
That's a number of years old now. MineralMan Apr 2019 #5
Thanks! nt tblue37 Apr 2019 #24
Neat. I look forward to your best seller one day...take care, nt. SWBTATTReg Apr 2019 #2
Not a book I'm writing. One I'm looking forward to reading. MineralMan Apr 2019 #4
Ha ha heh...and a square has 5 sides!! nt SWBTATTReg Apr 2019 #6
Some day science will catch up on the giant fish thing, and marylandblue Apr 2019 #8
It already has at Disneyland, as you can see: MineralMan Apr 2019 #25
I was thinking more of a bioengineered whale with no stomach acid marylandblue Apr 2019 #26
What a great idea. I'd pay to visit that. MineralMan Apr 2019 #29
Theoretical entity? Galileo126 Apr 2019 #7
Great story! MineralMan Apr 2019 #9
Sure but you still can't edhopper Apr 2019 #10
True enough. MineralMan Apr 2019 #14
My understanding of my faith continues to develop. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #11
Christianity, for most Christians, has not Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #12
That's nice... MineralMan Apr 2019 #13
Right Lordquinton Apr 2019 #17
That's neat. trotsky Apr 2019 #18
"My understanding of my faith continues to develop" Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #19
My understanding of your tactics is fully developed. eom guillaumeb Apr 2019 #20
Then why do you keep losing these arguments? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #21
... trotsky Apr 2019 #23
In your mind? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #33
You think you're performing well here? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #34
Do you think that your own motives are not understood? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #35
I know you think they are. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #36
Why don't you tell us what you think that poster's motives are? MineralMan Apr 2019 #37
But your understanding is not that. MineralMan Apr 2019 #22
picture of the Atom edhopper Apr 2019 #15
Small, but mighty! MineralMan Apr 2019 #16
Whole book about this zipplewrath Apr 2019 #27
Yes, I've read it. MineralMan Apr 2019 #28
Feynman talked about the unknowable zipplewrath Apr 2019 #30
I don't wonder what happens after I die. MineralMan Apr 2019 #31
Science issued a fact-based guess; that turned out to be true Bretton Garcia Apr 2019 #32
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