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DetlefK

(16,553 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:15 PM Nov 2018

What counts as evidence for/against God? [View all]

The old back and forth: There is no evidence! There is evidence! Evidence doesn't matter because belief does not depend on evidence! You are supposed to show evidence that he exists! No, you are supposed to show evidence that he doesn't exist!

What kind of evidence are we even talking about?
Witness-testimony?
A subjective sentient observer making a repeatable measurement on an object?

What would a piece of evidence for God's existence even look like?
What would a piece of evidence against God's existence even look like?
What would be good enough?

And let's say, there is a massive miracle that cannot in any way be explained by science and too many credible witnesses to discard it, how can we be sure that God did it? What if it was Satan? Or aliens? Or a hallucination?





Let me guess: "We will just know."
Okay, that means, as long as there's one guy who doesn't know, it doesn't count, because if it were the real deal, he would know.

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Nothing. elleng Nov 2018 #1
A definition of god must be presented first. trotsky Nov 2018 #2
The last refuge of the theist Cartoonist Nov 2018 #3
Somewhere in the ancient Celtic world... oldlibdem Nov 2018 #4
Define evidence, and define God. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #5
You claim god exists, you define him Lordquinton Nov 2018 #6
I claim belief that God exists. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #7
I know the difference between claim and proof Lordquinton Nov 2018 #8
Sophistry, Guy. Pure and Simple. MineralMan Nov 2018 #9
Apart from what you reveal when speakigngto theists, guillaumeb Nov 2018 #10
Writing coherent sentences. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #15
In an interesting display of irony, guillaumeb Nov 2018 #16
Are coherent and complete synonymous? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #17
I'm a generalist, Guy. MineralMan Nov 2018 #18
Descartes proved with logic that God exists but the Catholic Church rejected it because logic and pr keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #11
His "proof" was not very compelling edhopper Nov 2018 #12
Logic is irrelevant. DetlefK Nov 2018 #14
" What is more in line with being static and unchanging? Existence or non-existence?" edhopper Nov 2018 #19
Witness testimony is all we have marylandblue Nov 2018 #13
You'd have to define God qazplm135 Nov 2018 #20
There's tons of evidence against. Iggo Nov 2018 #21
Failure to provide evidence for something is not the same as providing evidence against something. DetlefK Dec 2018 #22
God keeps piling up absences. Iggo Dec 2018 #23
Those making the claim must provide the evidence edhopper Dec 2018 #24
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