Religion

marylandblue

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53. Everybody needs a language, some people don't need any religion

Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:55 PM

Nov 2018

So the two are not in the same category of constructs. Again, too broad a brush. Especially in the modern world, we live entirely in a network of artificial constructs. But all the different constructs serve different purposes, have different weights, and are used differently.

Which way to load the toilet paper roll is a source of unending division in many households. It is a human construct. But has anyone ever committed violence over this issue? If someone claimed they did, it would either be a joke or a mark of insanity. If it is a source of division, why have we never gone to war over toilet paper?

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Religion is used to divide people. [View all] guillaumeb Nov 2018 OP

I think it's fitting that you listed language twice. Croney Nov 2018 #1

My error. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #2

Actually, the real question is "how do we manage and minimize the divisions" marylandblue Nov 2018 #3

But if a poster suggests that religion is THE source, or the primary source, guillaumeb Nov 2018 #4

As soon as cells divide after egg fertilization, Croney Nov 2018 #7

And often these opinions are a source of division. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #9

Power? Used to divide people? Croney Nov 2018 #13

Is not power behind many human actions? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #14

A discussion of abstract power is irrelevant. Croney Nov 2018 #16

Power is a concept, and an abstraction, guillaumeb Nov 2018 #18

Yes, you've run into a long standing argument here marylandblue Nov 2018 #22

Thanks. Croney Nov 2018 #23

Your broad-brush, nebulous, distracting approach to religion also suggests an agenda marylandblue Nov 2018 #19

OK. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #25

Ok. Now that we have established that everyone has an agenda. marylandblue Nov 2018 #34

What was my agenda here? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #38

My agenda is to discuss and learn about a topic I have always had interest in marylandblue Nov 2018 #41

And in support of that, guillaumeb Nov 2018 #43

No .because the key word is "primary" marylandblue Nov 2018 #47

The use of primary is not scientific, absent proof. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #58

I didn't say your agenda is anything other than your own opinion marylandblue Nov 2018 #68

That is a good question. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #74

Really? What makes you think people might express opinions not their own? marylandblue Nov 2018 #76

I post many articles. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #78

You are unusual, because you post so many articles without comment marylandblue Nov 2018 #80

Don Viejo and others frequently post without further comment. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #83

Your completely missing the point and diverting at the same time marylandblue Nov 2018 #84

Read: guillaumeb Nov 2018 #85

Fine, you still missed or deliberately avoided the point. marylandblue Nov 2018 #86

I have previously spoken at length about my beliefs. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #87

I asked you a question, answer it if you please. marylandblue Nov 2018 #88

If it relates to #68, guillaumeb Nov 2018 #89

Your agenda was to avoid the discussion in my thread MineralMan Nov 2018 #54

"Division seems to be the default condition of humanity." trotsky Nov 2018 #31

So division is not an insecapable part of humanity? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #35

No. trotsky Nov 2018 #50

Thank you. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #61

You don't do dialog, Guy. MineralMan Nov 2018 #51

You rejected my answer. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #62

Questions are not answers, Gil, by definition. nt. Mariana Nov 2018 #67

Yes, they can be, because a question guillaumeb Nov 2018 #73

Which poster suggested that, Guy? MineralMan Nov 2018 #55

Do an advanced search. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #64

Post a link. MineralMan Nov 2018 #66

So, Eko Nov 2018 #5

How do we promote one-ness, and lessen division? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #6

We certainly cant do it Eko Nov 2018 #10

So is it all about power over others?And using things as tools to divide? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #12

Yup, Eko Nov 2018 #15

But the concept of country is used to divide. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #17

Instead of talking about the subject Eko Nov 2018 #20

You misused whataboutism. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #26

Racis is used to divide. Eko Nov 2018 #21

I'll pledge allegiance to any language, as long as it's English marylandblue Nov 2018 #33

D'accord. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #37

The "war" against multiculturalism is a figurative war marylandblue Nov 2018 #45

The war against multiculturalism has led to violence. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #46

It's a matter of relative evil marylandblue Nov 2018 #48

There is war, and there is the threat of war. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #59

That would be in direct opposition to the Christian god Mariana Nov 2018 #81

Well, really, it wasn't the language that bothered the grumpy old geezer. MineralMan Nov 2018 #82

Again, you failed to answer the question. MineralMan Nov 2018 #52

Tribalism unites people - at least the people of the same tribe. Jim__ Nov 2018 #8

As you say, tribalism unites, and divides. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #11

I'm not sure how this fits in...I think religion.. LakeArenal Nov 2018 #24

It does fit. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #27

Have you given up all that you have, gil? n/t trotsky Nov 2018 #32

Jesus didn't say only the rich should do that. Mariana Nov 2018 #56

Look at your list Cartoonist Nov 2018 #28

All of the items listed are social constructs. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #36

They all got there by travelling real roads Cartoonist Nov 2018 #39

All are means of promoting unity in a group. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #40

I don't need it, and I'm not alone. Cartoonist Nov 2018 #42

Which refutes nothing that I said. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #44

is this division integral to what it means to be human? Cartoonist Nov 2018 #49

And we all eat dinner. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #60

Depends on what you mean by division. marylandblue Nov 2018 #70

Everybody needs a language, some people don't need any religion marylandblue Nov 2018 #53

But we all have beliefs. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #63

Again, your argument devolves into mush marylandblue Nov 2018 #69

No. All people do not have beliefs. MineralMan Nov 2018 #71

People believe things that they cannot prove. eom guillaumeb Nov 2018 #75

And some people believe things that are simply untrue. MineralMan Nov 2018 #77

Yes, they do. eom guillaumeb Nov 2018 #79

Citation needed. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #29

Arguable whether it's "used". trotsky Nov 2018 #30

The texts were written by multiple people with different agendas marylandblue Nov 2018 #72

This is a great topic. Conflict Nov 2018 #57

Welcome to DU, and the conversation. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #65