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Cary

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5. Dialogue for what?

Tue Nov 13, 2018, 06:02 PM

Nov 2018

I can point you to a man who insists he has absolute truth. He is Catholic and feels he is not bound by Vatican II. I would defy you to get a.straight answer out of him on anything. That is just one example of a religious zealot whom you cannot have any dialogue with.

If you wish to waste your time worrying about the sensibilities of people who are holier than thou, that is up to you. But I will tell you the same thing I tell them: unless and until you can provide reasonably objective arguments your proposition is pure faith. You are entitled to your faith but you are not entitled to impose it on me.

"Fundie" is a perfectly servicable term. No, it is not like "kike." Sorry. Not the same.

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When it comes to religious belief, or lack of, name calling is not dialogue. [View all] guillaumeb Nov 2018 OP

I agree. I've come to understand that if I call an evangelical Christian a "Fundie," Still In Wisconsin Nov 2018 #1

Exactly. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #3

Is name-calling the same as labeling? Croney Nov 2018 #2

Name calling is denigration. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #4

Not if the name is accurate Major Nikon Nov 2018 #15

A bigot is intolerant. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #18

You just described when name calling isn't denigration Major Nikon Nov 2018 #21

What I said: guillaumeb Nov 2018 #22

You are working way too hard to be offended Major Nikon Nov 2018 #24

Dialogue for what? Cary Nov 2018 #5

Dialogue is multiple voices speaking. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #6

He is a racist and a homophobe trying to impose his relgion via politics Cary Nov 2018 #7

I doubt that I know the person, guillaumeb Nov 2018 #9

When they play insipid mind games and lie there can be no respect Cary Nov 2018 #14

I understand. eom guillaumeb Nov 2018 #17

Kinda sucks you don't follow your own advice Major Nikon Nov 2018 #8

Ths is one of your more enlightening ones: guillaumeb Nov 2018 #10

Kinda funny how you'd use your stalking tactics Major Nikon Nov 2018 #11

Afraid of your own words? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #12

When have I ever given you reason to believe that? Major Nikon Nov 2018 #13

Funny is you accusing me of doing what you did in a separate post. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #16

If you're going to accuse me of ad hominem, you should have the integrity to explain yourself Major Nikon Nov 2018 #19

Anyone looking at your replies to me will see the constant references to guillaumeb Nov 2018 #20

Bullshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #23

Yes, your reply was indeed. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #28

Bullshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #43

I don't see any name-calling in that post from 2014. MineralMan Nov 2018 #27

And the numerous other examples of name calling? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #29

Or perhaps less. MineralMan Nov 2018 #32

Try reading #23. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #34

No, thank you. Instead, please try MineralMan Nov 2018 #35

#23 is a prime illustration of the point of the thread. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #36

Oh, Guy... MineralMan Nov 2018 #37

You refuse to look at the proof before you. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #38

I read #23. Did you? MineralMan Nov 2018 #39

And what did you see in it? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #40

I saw something you should read for understanding. MineralMan Nov 2018 #41

Deflection. I understand. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #49

By other readers do you mean your imaginary fan club? Major Nikon Nov 2018 #44

Jesus's message covers this topic. Mariana Nov 2018 #25

Jesus probably never existed. Red Raider 85 Nov 2018 #26

The book exists. Mariana Nov 2018 #42

The topic is dialogue. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #30

Are you really claiming you don't insult others on a daily basis here? Major Nikon Nov 2018 #45

Surely not. MineralMan Nov 2018 #48

Hilariously so Major Nikon Nov 2018 #54

Yes, everyone knows the kind of dialog you want to see in this group. Mariana Nov 2018 #47

My own posts disprove your weak assertion. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #51

Poor, poor persecuted Gil. Mariana Nov 2018 #52

Poor deflecting on your part M. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #53

Bullshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #61

Point to some. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #62

I will later Major Nikon Nov 2018 #64

I will wait for the later. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #67

I will not ignore your libel Major Nikon Nov 2018 #73

You need to research what libel is, and what constitutes evidence. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #74

Says the guy who doesn't know the difference between slander and libel Major Nikon Nov 2018 #77

Indeed. eom guillaumeb Nov 2018 #80

Here's a thread that just started, Guy. MineralMan Nov 2018 #68

You obviously misread the claim. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #71

Condescension from someone who's allegedly all about respectful dialog Major Nikon Nov 2018 #96

Several Major Nikon Nov 2018 #81

3 of your links are empty. Ironic, I think. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #82

All are active posters Major Nikon Nov 2018 #83

I asked fro a specific post, or posts, guillaumeb Nov 2018 #84

Moving the goal posts is a common tactic of those uninterested in civil discourse Major Nikon Nov 2018 #85

Your own claim. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #86

62. Point to some. Major Nikon Nov 2018 #87

#1 on your list is my own question asking for proof. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #88

I proved my assertion Major Nikon Nov 2018 #89

No, you failed, and now you wish to define failure as success. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #90

Not Major Nikon Nov 2018 #91

A wise decision. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #92

Not.... Major Nikon Nov 2018 #93

I complimented you on making a wise decision. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #94

I'll still wait patiently with the proof you reject good faith discussion Major Nikon Nov 2018 #95

Actually I don't even think he wants the first type Major Nikon Nov 2018 #63

Yes, of course. Gil's Groupies. Mariana Nov 2018 #65

The point of this OP is not clear.. Permanut Nov 2018 #31

Dialogue is not required. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #33

So don't do it Major Nikon Nov 2018 #46

Does the beam impede your vision? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #50

Displaying more of your alleged debate skills I see Major Nikon Nov 2018 #55

No, asking a legitimate question. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #57

Condescension is what passes for a legitimate question in your book? Major Nikon Nov 2018 #59

Does the entire tree trunk impede yours? MineralMan Nov 2018 #69

tu quoque fallacy in evidence. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #72

Tu quoque et tu quoque et tu quoque in infinitum... MineralMan Nov 2018 #75

Silliness indeed. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #78

18th Commandment violation Major Nikon Nov 2018 #56

There were only room for 11 on the tablets. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #58

Blasphemy doesn't suit you all that well Major Nikon Nov 2018 #60

Neither is performance art. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #66

Par exemple? MineralMan Nov 2018 #70

Merci beaucoup, MineralMan. Mariana Nov 2018 #97

De rien... MineralMan Nov 2018 #99

No it isn't, yes it is Bradshaw3 Nov 2018 #76

Exactly. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #79

How about smearing everyone who disagrees with you as being part of a "choir"? trotsky Nov 2018 #98

Nothing applies, you see. Some people are sui generis, MineralMan Nov 2018 #101

Classic pattern of narcissists, too. trotsky Nov 2018 #102

There are lots of ways to avoid dialogue marylandblue Nov 2018 #100