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Kennah

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18. SUVs are definitely a huge factor, but overall planned obsolescence is arguably a larger factor
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 09:53 PM
Jan 2024

A number of maintenance issues are causing people to "throw away" used vehicles—that are perfectly fine, functional vehicles—when something "too expensive" breaks.

If something like a blown transmission occurs, if the vehicle is no longer under warranty, and no longer financed, then it might well make financial sense to trade it away, recover something, and the vehicle ends up in the hands of someone who can perform the repair themselves [although transmission repair is a tall order] or perhaps swap in a junkyard transmission.

Conversely, a heater core or AC evaporator core is a part that runs between perhaps $100 and $1000 (for a high-end vehicle). However, labor costs can run into thousands of dollars with some vehicles because so much of the vehicle has to be disassembled. With these vehicles, if a heater core or AC evaporator core goes, then you replace the other one as well. It is fascinating to look at a YouTube video demonstrating the replacement. I've seen some videos where a dozen carts are filled up with parts as they are removed. Sometimes, the result is that when the heater core goes out, the person takes the vehicle to Arizona to sell it. If the AC evaporator core goes out, sell it in North Dakota.

Some manufacturers are putting in owners manuals "never service the transmission, good for a lifetime." This isn't because it's a lifetime warranty. It's because original owners will generally trade the vehicle in after the warranty ends and before a time the transmission is likely to die.

My previous minivan, a 2005 Saturn Relay [and all of their GM clones], had a below average maintenance record, but I generally had good luck with it. I made it to 148K miles before it was totalled in a collision last year. I needed to flush the radiator and remove the thermostat in order to allow it to flush because the thermostat would clog up. I've removed thermostats before, and it was generally 2 bolts. This was 2 bolts, but it took me about 2 hours because of it's convoluted location. As bad as it was, I've seen videos of thermostat changes that involved disassembly of the front of the vehicle.

When maintenance is too expensive, then our vehicles are throwaways. That isn't sustainable.

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Its not just big SUV's the Historic NY Jan 2024 #1
I plan on keeping my ten-year old Honda Civic for as long as I can. llmart Jan 2024 #2
Leasing is the sucker's bet. Biggest scam the auto companies ever came up with oldsoftie Jan 2024 #4
I bought my Civic in 2005 and my niece is still tooling around town in it, no problems whatsoever. Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #5
Your last paragraph is spot on! llmart Jan 2024 #13
All our vehicles are old AverageOldGuy Jan 2024 #3
Haven't bought a new car in decades... MiHale Jan 2024 #6
We would buy a new 4WD truck in a nanosecond if they all weren't the size of a semi. Vinca Jan 2024 #7
The problem with big SUVs and trucks is that they also make driving unsafe for those in small cars. Lonestarblue Jan 2024 #8
The data is in on that subject. Old Crank Jan 2024 #12
1995 Toyota Camry with manual transmission: 298647 miles. I'm the 2nd owner and have rebuilt the suspension and brakes Ford_Prefect Jan 2024 #9
I think it was an opportunity the MFG's saw b/c of the covid crisis..00OOooo chip crisis, Ooo labor shortage. mitch96 Jan 2024 #10
I bought a new car once back in the mid 'eighties when I was young and full of myself. hunter Jan 2024 #11
I just turned 54 AwakeAtLast Jan 2024 #14
I drive a small car these days, a 2021 Nissan Sentra. Mr.Bill Jan 2024 #15
Perhaps Old Crank Jan 2024 #16
That's a good idea about the flashers. Mr.Bill Jan 2024 #17
SUVs are definitely a huge factor, but overall planned obsolescence is arguably a larger factor Kennah Jan 2024 #18
The average car on the road is now 12 years Old Crank Jan 2024 #19
Lots of those old trade ins are still running or still being scavenged for parts. Newer trade ins, less so. Kennah Jan 2024 #20
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